Meh, 7-5, and a no-brainer decision at DC.

[nicname]

Though it would have been nice to get an extra win at Baylor or at least Colorado, the season went pretty much as well as we can expect given the current status of the program.  The offense, especially when taking into account the injuries was actually better than expected and looks to be in decent shape for the future. 

we all knew the defense would struggle with Vic leaving and the lack of quality players returning on that side of the ball.  Though, I at least didn't think the drop-off from Vic to Cosh would be quite so extreme.  Make no mistake, Cosh is has put together an absolutely horrible defense.  There is no reason he should be retained, and at the very least he should be demoted, his son Billy Cosh is not reason enough to keep him on staff. 

Next year looks pretty bright IMO if, of course, we can get a quality DC replacement for Cosh.  If not I think we will struggle and the tougher schedule won't help.  If we can get a guy like Levitt to come in as DC I think we will be an 8-4 type team even with the tougher schedule. 

[cas4ksu]

You make it sound like a forgone conclusion that Snyder fires coaches that underachieve.

[michigancat]

It was a no-brainer decision to NOT hire the DC in the first place.

[nicname]

It was a no-brainer decision to hire the DC in the first place.

To be fair, he was hired as a Co-Dc with a very capable VK.  Of course if Snyder hired both thinking that VK would leave soon and that Cosh would take over then he made a horrible decision. 

Cosh needs to go, and if he doesn't (at least a demotion) then SDJC and UPKS need to get the ball rolling on a replacement for BS.

[Tannoudji]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

I repeat we are 7-5, going bowling. Big wins over KU and Texas. I'm a happy Wildcat fan today. I really think some of you need to get some perspective here. This team hasn't gotten worse as the season has gone on - that goes for the run defense as well. The reality is that our run defense is just about the same today as it was at the start of the season. More and more game film, more and more teams exploit weaknesses.  Every loss this team has had but one wasn't decided until the fourth quarter, often VERY late in the fourth quarter. And all but one of those losses came against statistically some of the best offenses in the nation.

[Cire]

holy crap, Iowa is 7-5?  big ten was pretty tough I guess.

[wabash909]

It was a no-brainer decision to NOT hire the DC in the first place.

[ChiComCat]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

I repeat we are 7-5, going bowling. Big wins over KU and Texas. I'm a happy Wildcat fan today. I really think some of you need to get some perspective here. This team hasn't gotten worse as the season has gone on - that goes for the run defense as well. The reality is that our run defense is just about the same today as it was at the start of the season. More and more game film, more and more teams exploit weaknesses. Every loss this team has had but one wasn't decided until the fourth quarter, often VERY late in the fourth quarter. And all but one of those losses came against statistically some of the best offenses in the nation.

Why aren't we one of those teams that watches film and junk?  Or does our opposition just not have weaknesses?  Shouldnt we get better with the film?

HOW BOUT IT, 'NOUDJI??????

[Panjandrum]

It was a no-brainer decision to hire the DC in the first place.

To be fair, he was hired as a Co-Dc with a very capable VK.  Of course if Snyder hired both thinking that VK would leave soon and that Cosh would take over then he made a horrible decision. 

Cosh needs to go, and if he doesn't (at least a demotion) then SDJC and UPKS need to get the ball rolling on a replacement for BS.

VK was a flight risk from minute one.  I hoped for two years.  Unfortunately, we only got one.

You could see this coming from a mile away.  It was mind-numbingly stupid to save him from getting fired at Maryland...for a raise no less.  

Hiring Cosh was the damn dumbest thing Snyder could have done.  He's been a failure as a DC at every other school he's been at.  He's either been fired or job hopped for demotions or lateral positions for the last twenty years to prevent getting fired.

It's time for him to go.  If Snyder doesn't do it, it's time for him to go.

[nicname]

It was a no-brainer decision to hire the DC in the first place.

To be fair, he was hired as a Co-Dc with a very capable VK.  Of course if Snyder hired both thinking that VK would leave soon and that Cosh would take over then he made a horrible decision. 

Cosh needs to go, and if he doesn't (at least a demotion) then SDJC and UPKS need to get the ball rolling on a replacement for BS.

Completely agree.   No matter what other positives Snyder can bring in his second tenure, none of them will outweigh having a Chris Cosh defense.

VK was a flight risk from minute one.  I hoped for two years.  Unfortunately, we only got one.

You could see this coming from a mile away.  It was mind-numbingly stupid to save him from getting fired at Maryland...for a raise no less.  

Hiring Cosh was the damn dumbest thing Snyder could have done.  He's been a failure as a DC at every other school he's been at.  He's either been fired or job hopped for demotions or lateral positions for the last twenty years to prevent getting fired.

It's time for him to go.  If Snyder doesn't do it, it's time for him to go.

[michigancat]

It was a no-brainer decision to hire the DC in the first place.

To be fair, he was hired as a Co-Dc with a very capable VK.  Of course if Snyder hired both thinking that VK would leave soon and that Cosh would take over then he made a horrible decision. 

It would have been dumb to even hire him as a position coach.  And to be fair, hiring him as co-DC and promoting him to sole DC is probably worse than hiring him as DC, because it involves rough ridin' up twice.

[j rake]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

Two of the teams above—Michigan and Miami—need to fire their coach, and another—Penn State—needs its coach to walk away and take care of his health. I agree that 7-5 is a nice record for Snyder because most didn't expect the Cats to finish better than 6-6. But if you're talking about progress, I don't think K-State took any great strides this season. Last year's team that failed to qualify for a bowl game in Lincoln is considerably better than the K-State team that held off North Texas today and assured itself a bowl berth.

Yes, K-State is headed to a bowl game, and that will be considered progress by some fans. But the fact remains: K-State beat just ONE team with a winning record (and that was a home win against a C-USA team), and its three Big 12 wins came against teams with a combined 6-18 conference record. The other two wins came against awful UCLA (5-7, 2-6 Pac-10) and dreadful North Texas (3-9, 3-5). Snyder has had, what, a half-dozen chances to beat a top 25 team his last four seasons as coach? He's come up empty every time.

Snyder is a great coach and he had a fantastic run his first time around with one of the best group of assistants ever assembled. But the staff he has now is an embarrassment, and I doubt it will improve next year.

Currie needs to have the awkward conversation with Snyder now and get it over with already.

[Cire]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

Two of the teams above—Michigan and Miami—need to fire their coach, and another—Penn State—needs its coach to walk away and take care of his health. I agree that 7-5 is a nice record for Snyder because most didn't expect the Cats to finish better than 6-6. But if you're talking about progress, I don't think K-State took any great strides this season. Last year's team that failed to qualify for a bowl game in Lincoln is considerably better than the K-State team that held off North Texas today and assured itself a bowl berth.

Yes, K-State is headed to a bowl game, and that will be considered progress by some fans. But the fact remains: K-State beat just ONE team with a winning record (and that was a home win against a C-USA team), and its three Big 12 wins came against teams with a combined 6-18 conference record. The other two wins came against awful UCLA (5-7, 2-6 Pac-10) and dreadful North Texas (3-9, 3-5). Snyder has had, what, a half-dozen chances to beat a top 25 team his last four seasons as coach? He's come up empty every time.

Snyder is a great coach and he had a fantastic run his first time around with one of the best group of assistants ever assembled. But the staff he has now is an embarrassment, and I doubt it will improve next year.

Currie needs to have the awkward conversation with Snyder now and get it over with already.

QMFT.

[I_have_purplewood]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

They would all beat us by at least 14 points or more.  D. Robinson would run for 450 yards against us.

[yoman]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

They would all beat us by at least 14 points or more.  D. Robinson would run for 450 yards against us.

In the first half.  Comparing us to any of the teams mentioned above is completely asinine.

[swish1]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

They would all beat us by at least 14 points or more.  D. Robinson would run for 450 yards against us.

In the first half.  Comparing us to any of the teams mentioned above is completely asinine.

penn state might fit...

[KSUTOMMY]

If NT hangs on to those 3 dropped INTs yesterday, we lose - that's clear. In some aspects we were lucky to beat a cacty team yesterday. Oh, and yesterday their RB nearly set a school record in rushing against this Defense (this 'feat' has already been accomplished twice - nubb and Baylor). Pathetic.

[KSUTOMMY]

You want to know some other teams that are going 7-5?

Iowa
Penn State
Florida
Michigan
Miami

I repeat we are 7-5, going bowling. Big wins over KU and Texas. I'm a happy Wildcat fan today. I really think some of you need to get some perspective here. This team hasn't gotten worse as the season has gone on - that goes for the run defense as well. The reality is that our run defense is just about the same today as it was at the start of the season. More and more game film, more and more teams exploit weaknesses.  Every loss this team has had but one wasn't decided until the fourth quarter, often VERY late in the fourth quarter. And all but one of those losses came against statistically some of the best offenses in the nation.

This D hasn't gotten worse? We gave up 459 yds to north texas... NORTH rough ridin' TEXAS!!! That's getting worse IMHO.

[Bookcat]

If NT hangs on to those 3 dropped INTs yesterday, we lose - that's clear. In some aspects we were lucky to beat a cacty team yesterday. Oh, and yesterday their RB nearly set a school record in rushing against this Defense (this 'feat' has already been accomplished twice - nubb and Baylor). Pathetic.

and CU's Rodney Stewart set a career high in rushing yards.

[KSUTOMMY]

If NT hangs on to those 3 dropped INTs yesterday, we lose - that's clear. In some aspects we were lucky to beat a cacty team yesterday. Oh, and yesterday their RB nearly set a school record in rushing against this Defense (this 'feat' has already been accomplished twice - nubb and Baylor). Pathetic.

and CU's Rodney Stewart set a career high in rushing yards.

Thanks man, I thought I missed another team. Ugh.