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Re: Numbers Don't Lie: Comparing Sams to Historic KSU EMAW QBs
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2014, 07:37:36 PM »
What sort of season does KSU need to have for Waters signing here to not have been a horrible point in time in EMAW football history?

Last year and this year vs. whatever we'd have done with Sams as #1 QB from January 2013 going forward through last year, this year, and his senior year.

Nothing short of a natty will make this OK

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Re: Numbers Don't Lie: Comparing Sams to Historic KSU EMAW QBs
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2014, 07:57:34 PM »
What sort of season does KSU need to have for Waters signing here to not have been a horrible point in time in EMAW football history?

Last year and this year vs. whatever we'd have done with Sams as #1 QB from January 2013 going forward through last year, this year, and his senior year.

Once upon a time I did stuff like this with Nick Williams and Dez Willingham not transferring.  I don't mean to insult Sams, but inevitably, you will over value the counterfactual because it is a beautiful dream.


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Re: Numbers Don't Lie: Comparing Sams to Historic KSU EMAW QBs
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2014, 08:25:31 PM »
I agree that the legend of Daniel Sams has the potential to grow to Bishop-like heights (especially if Ertz struggles) but there is no comparison between the track record of Wooly and 2nd tier Texas recruits vs Snyds and first year QBs with stats like stats like what Daniel put up.

For me, anything it will honestly take 10-2 for me to feel like this was the right decision.

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Re: Numbers Don't Lie: Comparing Sams to Historic KSU EMAW QBs
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2014, 03:36:18 AM »
I don't think we will ever get the complete whole picture of the situation. Jake and Sams both looked promising to be honest, and both had good and bad moments. You could tell last year was a growing year for both and I suppose the coaches just didn't feel there was room at the end of the progression for two starting QBs. For me it was really more of the intangibles. With Sams I felt like you were getting Bishop or Roberson- that intangible spark that gets the team going and somehow pulls out a win. With Waters I sometimes had flashbacks to Coffman. I dunno.

That said, I wish Sams the best and am excited to see how well Jake can do with an inducted HOF coach on the sideline.

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