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[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

hey guys remember last year when we beat them by a kabillion million at night on national tv in morgantown?

they had geno smith and that receiver that got drafted in the first round and the other that got drafted in the third round? but as a team they were such huge, gigantic, horribly coached pussies that they could not deal w/ us? remember that?

Yeah, but this will be a road game for them and they've looked good on the road this year (@bu 56-0, @Maryland 37-0, @ou 16-7)

[Kelsey_Grammar]

we're like 3-8 in our last 11 games, and all the wins were against bad teams 

You have to ho back like three years to get to 8 losses

ok.  we're 3-6.  that is god awful and cause for concern.  we played 2 good teams during that stretch and were physically destroyed by both of them.

The teams we've lost to over that stretch are a collective 167-13 over their last 30 games, including 33-3 this season.

what is the record of the teams we beat during that stretch?  thats what i want to know

10-8.

i'm not sure i believe that, but either way, its not good

Schedules don't eb and flow at all and no stretches are any harder then any others.

I believe you meant to say that schedules don't *ebb and flow at all and no stretches are harder *than any others...

[PowercatPat]

Steve Dave is exposing a lot of dumbasses in this thread.

[kslim]

#team9and4 is predicting a #blowoutforthecats

[TownieCat]

Up to -10 on most sites now... America knows this is going to be a good ol' fashioned ass kicking at the coal aggies' expense. Wouldn't be surprised to see the line close at 12 or 13. Either way it won't be enough.

#team9and4 

[slimz]

There is a lot for KSU to be confident about in the midst of this 3 game losing streak.  Turnovers, penalties, poor play calling....yep, a lot of momentum.

I'd like to add to this by saying that our defense has toppled like a house of cards whenever we need a stop in the final minutes of a close game.  Further, I'd like to add that our offense has looked completely incompetent whenever we need to score in the final minutes of a close game.  Also, our receivers and running backs suck.

While these have been legitimate points of concern, I think they'll be remedied by the bye week. After all, history has shown that Snyder can put extra practice time to excellent use. Just look at how well the team played with a month to prepare for Arkansas and Oregon...not to mention the thrashing they gave NDSU after having a full offseason to prepare. And after our most recent bye week, we really gave the Cowboys a scare! Clear sailing this week, boys.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

[catzacker]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

[kslim]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

and homecoming, game blouses

[Rage Against the McKee]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

Bill has struggled with that goal so far this season, but by and large, he's abided by it fairly well over the course of his career.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

[TownieCat]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

Bill has struggled with that goal so far this season, but by and large, he's abided by it fairly well over the course of his career.

 

[kso_FAN]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

[catzacker]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

[kslim]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

lol and USC and Baylor 11' and OU last year and every texas team ever and lol

[catzacker]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

lol and USC and Baylor 11' and OU last year and every texas team ever and lol

USC was an equal team (I believe they finished with the same record as we did).  OU was an equal team to us last year (we tied for the conference).  Baylor was not as good as us in '11 (hence our conference standing).

Look, it really isn't rocket science.  What defines you as a good team is also what defines you as a bad team.  Wins and Losses.  And when you don't win - you're a crappy team, which probably means you lost to all the teams above you and probably a few "equal" crappy teams.  When you're a good team, you've probably beaten all the teams below you and most of the teams of the "equal" good teams.  Of course there are the exceptions to both sides (crappy teams beating good teams).

We are 2-4.  We suck.  I'm sorry this is a problem for everyone to grasp.

[TownieCat]

USC was an equal team (I believe they finished with the same record as we did).  OU was an equal team to us last year (we tied for the conference).  Baylor was not as good as us in '11 (hence our conference standing).

Look, it really isn't rocket science.  What defines you as a good team is also what defines you as a bad team.  Wins and Losses.  And when you don't win - you're a crappy team, which probably means you lost to all the teams above you and probably a few "equal" crappy teams.  When you're a good team, you've probably beaten all the teams below you and most of the teams of the "equal" good teams.  Of course there are the exceptions to both sides (crappy teams beating good teams).

We are 2-4.  We suck.  I'm sorry this is a problem for everyone to grasp.

We should have lost more games in '02, '11, and '12 to make the USC, Baylor*, and OU wins stand out more as good wins.

*Baylor finished 10-3 in 2011 

[kostakio]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.   

[Skipper44]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.

losing to this WVU team would be up there with the Snyder's worst home losses of all time.  Marshall in 03 was 8-4 (6-2 in the Mac), 05 A&M was 5-6 (3-5).

After looking at it, it would likely be the worst home loss since losing to a 2-9 (1-6) Missouri team in 89.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.

losing to this WVU team would be up there with the Snyder's worst home losses of all time.  Marshall in 03 was 8-4 (6-2 in the Mac), 05 A&M was 5-6 (3-5).

After looking at it, it would likely be the worst home loss since losing to a 2-9 (1-6) Missouri team in 89.

I don't think losing to this WVU team would be nearly as bad as the loss to NDSU earlier this season.

[kostakio]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.

losing to this WVU team would be up there with the Snyder's worst home losses of all time.  Marshall in 03 was 8-4 (6-2 in the Mac), 05 A&M was 5-6 (3-5).

After looking at it, it would likely be the worst home loss since losing to a 2-9 (1-6) Missouri team in 89.

I don't think losing to this WVU team would be nearly as bad as the loss to NDSU earlier this season.

Hard to compare to the two because of the nature of the game.  It's a more shocking loss because they are an FCS team.  But as far as actually having to line up and play the game under those circumstances then it was a harder game then this WVA game is.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.

losing to this WVU team would be up there with the Snyder's worst home losses of all time.  Marshall in 03 was 8-4 (6-2 in the Mac), 05 A&M was 5-6 (3-5).

After looking at it, it would likely be the worst home loss since losing to a 2-9 (1-6) Missouri team in 89.

I don't think losing to this WVU team would be nearly as bad as the loss to NDSU earlier this season.

Hard to compare to the two because of the nature of the game.  It's a more shocking loss because they are an FCS team.  But as far as actually having to line up and play the game under those circumstances then it was a harder game then this WVA game is.

Under what circumstances? WVU has more scholarships and better athletes than NDSU. I think we will blow out WVU but we should have blown out NDSU, too.

[kso_FAN]

Snyder is really good against crappy teams coming off a bye week. He's pretty good against crappy teams without the bye week, too.

This needs to be the 17th goal:  Beat crappy teams, lose to the good ones.

By and large that has been the most consistent aspect of Snyder's program.

he usually beats equal to and lesser teams.  when he sucks, he loses to equal teams (which by default means we lose to crappy/sucky teams).  see: this year (and '04 and '05).  WVU is an equal team, no matter how many ChUMPs say differently.

even in 04 and 05 we pretty much beat the equal teams at home.

losing to this WVU team would be up there with the Snyder's worst home losses of all time.  Marshall in 03 was 8-4 (6-2 in the Mac), 05 A&M was 5-6 (3-5).

After looking at it, it would likely be the worst home loss since losing to a 2-9 (1-6) Missouri team in 89.

I don't think losing to this WVU team would be nearly as bad as the loss to NDSU earlier this season.

Hard to compare to the two because of the nature of the game.  It's a more shocking loss because they are an FCS team.  But as far as actually having to line up and play the game under those circumstances then it was a harder game then this WVA game is.

Under what circumstances? WVU has more scholarships and better athletes than NDSU. I think we will blow out WVU but we should have blown out NDSU, too.

First game, new quarterback, defensive personnel losses vs a team returning nearly everyone from teams that won a ton of games. Plus, Sams missed a significant amount of practice in the early part of fall camp.

Granted, there is no excuse to lose to a FCS school, but the circumstances going in were not great for us.