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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2013, 12:47:33 PM »
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The whole bee thing is a stupid conspiracy theory, anyway.

It's not a conspiracy at all, actually. There really are a whole lot less bees than there used to be. They are making a slow comeback, though. Maybe Monsanto's Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready bees, just like they are weeds.

Wild population swings in bees is not uncommon.

Do you have some type of study to back that claim up? The current decline seems pretty dramatic.

Just anecdotal conversations with the proprietor of the largest apiary in California. :dunno:

It does stand to reason.  Other insects (like grasshoppers for example) have dramatic boom and bust years.  I know there are state agencies that track that sort of thing and data should be available.  They track them by like grasshoppers/square yard.

I bet a job counting grasshoppers is very rewarding.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2013, 12:51:45 PM »
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The whole bee thing is a stupid conspiracy theory, anyway.

It's not a conspiracy at all, actually. There really are a whole lot less bees than there used to be. They are making a slow comeback, though. Maybe Monsanto's Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready bees, just like they are weeds.

Wild population swings in bees is not uncommon.

Do you have some type of study to back that claim up? The current decline seems pretty dramatic.

Just anecdotal conversations with the proprietor of the largest apiary in California. :dunno:

It does stand to reason.  Other insects (like grasshoppers for example) have dramatic boom and bust years.  I know there are state agencies that track that sort of thing and data should be available.  They track them by like grasshoppers/square yard.

I bet a job counting grasshoppers is very rewarding.

Probably grad students.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2013, 12:55:22 PM »
I bet those grad students just go out and see tons of grasshoppers bzzdeliking around and then just say there are about 2000 in this field and go get some beers. How would you ever keep track of the 'hoppers you've already counted?
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2013, 02:03:50 PM »
Stop it NK!  :shakesfist:
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
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« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »
Roundup Ready legislation! :love:
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2013, 03:07:13 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.
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« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2013, 03:08:56 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2013, 03:11:18 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"
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« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2013, 03:18:55 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2013, 03:23:02 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie

If it were a lie, Monsanto wouldn't be making Dicamba Ready beans. Roundup is going to be worthless soon.
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« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2013, 03:33:06 PM »
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie

If it were a lie, Monsanto wouldn't be making Dicamba Ready beans. Roundup is going to be worthless soon.

A dose by any other name...
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #163 on: March 27, 2013, 02:56:07 AM »
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« Reply #164 on: March 27, 2013, 05:19:15 AM »
I liked the part where they called killing a bee "shocking".
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2013, 08:14:39 AM »
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Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
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Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie

If it were a lie, Monsanto wouldn't be making Dicamba Ready beans. Roundup is going to be worthless soon.
Ummm, atrazine just called and said, "doubtful".
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #166 on: March 27, 2013, 09:44:42 AM »
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Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: felix rex on March 26, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
Quote from: felix rex on March 26, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie

If it were a lie, Monsanto wouldn't be making Dicamba Ready beans. Roundup is going to be worthless soon.
Ummm, atrazine just called and said, "doubtful".

Atrazine has flaws also.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #167 on: March 27, 2013, 09:52:56 AM »
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Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: felix rex on March 26, 2013, 03:18:55 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: felix rex on March 26, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 26, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
Quote from: felix rex on March 26, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
Roundup Ready legislation! :love:

It's only going to create Roundup Ready hippies in the long run.

More like roundup ready capitalism. Hippies are weeds.

Yeah, that was the joke, which I guess wasn't funny since I'm having to explain it :frown:. Haven't you heard the phrase "Roundup Ready seeds are creating Roundup Ready weeds?"

Sounds like a hippie lie

If it were a lie, Monsanto wouldn't be making Dicamba Ready beans. Roundup is going to be worthless soon.
Ummm, atrazine just called and said, "doubtful".

Atrazine has flaws also.

That is my point. Approximately 50 weeds have developed tolerance or resistance to atrazine. Most of that tolerance/resistance has been around for over 20 years. Even then, atrazine in some form is still used in well over half of all pre-emerge corn herbicide programs.
Similarly, weed resistance to Roundup will not make Roundup worthless. It will still be a key part of agriculture for the next 20 years.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #168 on: March 27, 2013, 10:33:19 AM »
Given enough time, evolution will always prevail, dobber.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #169 on: March 27, 2013, 10:47:31 AM »
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Given enough time, evolution will always prevail, dobber.
That seems like a completely different point, and one that I do not argue against.
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Re: Monsanto: A Great American Company
« Reply #170 on: September 02, 2013, 12:34:41 AM »
http://ht.ly/nqRpe

(about bees).
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