Sorry Michael Hastings . . .

[8manpick]

We have the internet and planes and stuff instead of guys on horses delivering mail... Why do we even need state governments anymore?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

We have the internet and planes and stuff instead of guys on horses delivering mail... Why do we even need state governments anymore?

 

[star seed 7]

State government does seem pretty antiquated.

[8manpick]

State government does seem pretty antiquated.

I mean, what is this, 1913 or 2013?

[michigancat]

State government does seem pretty antiquated.

It would be much better if we redrew state lines in a way that made sense.

[sys]

State government does seem pretty antiquated.

It would be much better if we redrew state lines in a way that made sense.

what would make sense?  does semi-arbitrary make sense, or using physiographic features, or does aligning borders with some sort of demographic or economic commonalities make sense?  i'd think that the latter would tend to engender more conflict rather than less.

for that matter does 5000 make sense?  or 500 or 50, or 5?  i guess i don't see any unifying border drawing principles that are clearly preferable or more logical than others.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

We have the internet and planes and stuff instead of guys on horses delivering mail... Why do we even need state governments anymore?

I thought about taking bubbles post re Partisan Police State grievances (the post that was so great per libtard Dave and set off this "serious" discussion) and FYP for this rediculous troll, but thought it to be a waste of time.  The leftists on this board are so intellectually dishonest (as evidenced by the libtard posts since) and close minded that it's really not worth pointing out anymore.

[8manpick]

We have the internet and planes and stuff instead of guys on horses delivering mail... Why do we even need state governments anymore?

I thought about taking bubbles post re Partisan Police State grievances (the post that was so great per libtard Dave and set off this "serious" discussion) and FYP for this rediculous troll, but thought it to be a waste of time.  The leftists on this board are so intellectually dishonest (as evidenced by the libtard posts since) and close minded that it's really not worth pointing out anymore.

Not a leftist, but criticism noted. Will make sure to take the pit more seriously in future discussions.

[star seed 7]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

 

[mortons toe]

jfc, I mean seriously... either the last couple of pages have been the best troll attempts by couple of you guys, or you are just mind-blowingly stupid.

Seven... If you don't know what the term "satanist" means in the context that most use it in, you just need to retire from political dialogue. I'll attempt to help you out... a "satanist" is commonly referred to as someone who believes in centrally planned government... ie, one massive cluster-fuq.

Michcat... I'm going to add to sys' comment about 5000, 50, 5 with an analogy stemming from another subject, minimum wage. What does make sense?... $10/hr, $50/hr, or how about $500/hr. Unfortunately, you won't be able to see the connection.

8man... ask many Europeans about their thoughts on bailing out other countries with their tax dollars. But again, unfortunately, you too will probably not be able to make the connection. 

[michigancat]

State government does seem pretty antiquated.

It would be much better if we redrew state lines in a way that made sense.

what would make sense?  does semi-arbitrary make sense, or using physiographic features, or does aligning borders with some sort of demographic or economic commonalities make sense?  i'd think that the latter would tend to engender more conflict rather than less.

for that matter does 5000 make sense?  or 500 or 50, or 5?  i guess i don't see any unifying border drawing principles that are clearly preferable or more logical than others.

Those are good questions. I think it is healthy to have some level of government between federal and municipal levels. I would propose grouping areas of somewhat similar economic demographics of approximately the same population (10-20 million so you can make most metros in their own state?) it would make far more sense than what we have now.

[chum1]

Jeez, mortons toe sounds a little pissed.

[michigancat]

jfc, I mean seriously... either the last couple of pages have been the best troll attempts by couple of you guys, or you are just mind-blowingly stupid.

Seven... If you don't know what the term "satanist" means in the context that most use it in, you just need to retire from political dialogue. I'll attempt to help you out... a "satanist" is commonly referred to as someone who believes in centrally planned government... ie, one massive cluster-fuq.

Michcat... I'm going to add to sys' comment about 5000, 50, 5 with an analogy stemming from another subject, minimum wage. What does make sense?... $10/hr, $50/hr, or how about $500/hr. Unfortunately, you won't be able to see the connection.

8man... ask many Europeans about their thoughts on bailing out other countries with their tax dollars. But again, unfortunately, you too will probably not be able to make the connection.

I don't think that's a very good analogy at all. I think raising the minimum wage is largely ineffective at whatever it intends to do. 

[8manpick]

8man... ask many Europeans about their thoughts on bailing out other countries with their tax dollars. But again, unfortunately, you too will probably not be able to make the connection.

I don't want to bail out European countries at all. That wouldn't make much sense for American states to do.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Toe was right, they can't make the connection. Woof

[chum1]

Toe was right, they can't make the connection. Woof

Are they that dumb or are you two that smart?

[8manpick]

Toe was right, they can't make the connection. Woof

Are they that dumb or are you two that smart?

Yes. Bark.

[bubbles4ksu]

merge states according to the court of appeals map. it would be allow us to bring in the marianas, guam and puerto rico. the 11 states of america!

[star seed 7]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

 

 

[8manpick]

merge states according to the court of appeals map. it would be allow us to bring in the marianas, guam and puerto rico. the 11 states of america!

Flag idea!

[kim carnes]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

do you know what a neocon is?

[star seed 7]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

do you know what a neocon is?

A dumb, angry, racist redneck?

[p1k3]

Why do neocons call liberals "statists" when neocons are the ones in love with state government?

do you know what a neocon is?

A dumb, angry, racist redneck?

Correct. Barry O fits the description well, fwiw