george hill was the first that came to mind but johnnnie williams is a good one too. but then again i can't honestly say that either were worse than dax jones. then you've got guys like josh kimm et al. i dunno this is tough. there really needs to be some kind of rules like played four years or recruited out of highschool or something. also daryl king was not that bad he just wasn't that good. also, anybody want me to tell my d king/b king story again? cause i'll do it.