2012's first _FANalysis is here...

[ManBearTurkey]

Nice work _FAN.

These are great.

Curious if you took any notes when we went five wide. I didn't get a chance to watch a replay since FSN went to the UTEP game later on Saturday.

[BRULL]

I'm no _fan, and many may disagree but, I put more blame on Harper for the lone int. on Saturday.

not 

I was thinking underthrown by design ala 2003 Dr. Pepper ER3 to Terry.

[SdK]

I'm no _fan, and many may disagree but, I put more blame on Harper for the lone int. on Saturday.

not 

I was thinking underthrown by design ala 2003 Dr. Pepper ER3 to Terry.

Why the eff would anyone even think that was ????

That you, Joe?

[steve dave]

I'm no _fan, and many may disagree but, I put more blame on Harper for the lone int. on Saturday.

not 

I was thinking underthrown by design ala 2003 Dr. Pepper ER3 to Terry.

he was busted early and collin threw it without looking.  probably by design but if so they defended it well.

[Dr Rick Daris]

hot damn i love it when _fan does these things.

[catzacker]

great as always, _Fan. 

I'm surprised you didn't show the pass to Trujillo.  That was a scheme doctor special. I think it was a derivative of the #2 play you showed.  Ball on the left hash, Pistol formation, WR to the far and near side, double tight (both uncovered), TE from near side motions far side (wr near side covers tackle), play action.....freezes both safeties and LB's, both TE's run vertical routes (far side TE - Trujillo - runs from far hash to near hash), outside receivers run deep outs.

[kso_FAN]

great as always, _Fan. 

I'm surprised you didn't show the pass to Trujillo.  That was a scheme doctor special. I think it was a derivative of the #2 play you showed.  Ball on the left hash, Pistol formation, WR to the far and near side, double tight (both uncovered), TE from near side motions far side (wr near side covers tackle), play action.....freezes both safeties and LB's, both TE's run vertical routes (far side TE - Trujillo - runs from far hash to near hash), outside receivers run deep outs.

Was going to, didn't get to it. I agree that it was really well designed and came from  play #2 on concept if we got the same coverage. Will probably put up here tomorrow of I get time.

[Hurricane Cat]

Thank you.     I enjoy these very much! 

[Dugout DickStone]

It's like watching the Matrix with Keanu.  Great work.

[steve dave]

guy on GPC who's getting sued for pervy office antics sees _FANalysis, attempts to copy:

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This play offers a great example of how Snyder is one of the best, if not the best college coach at making in-game adjustments.  You can get the full context if you watch the Miami secondary adjust to our formations for the entire game because you'll see Miami adjust to our 4 WR formation.  If you'd rather not, simply know that by this point in the game, Snyder is fairly confident that in response to this formation, Miami will play cover 3, even though Miami will try and make it look like they are playing cover 2.

Cover 3 is a bad defense against 2 WRs on each side because it leaves a gap where the 1/3 deep zones meet.  Cover 2 is ideal because it eliminates the gap in the deep zones, making a deep or intermediate pass much harder to complete.  Everyone knows Cover 3 is a bad idea against 2 WRs on each side and Miami is trying to hide it. 

If you watch, Miami gives the cover 2 look until right before the ball is snapped.  Even though Miami is giving the cover 2 look, Klein knows that they Miami's defense will switch to cover 3 and he puts the ball right in the gap in the zone, in stride to Sexton.  Klein knows this because Snyder has figured out earlier in the game that Miami is adjusting to our offensive formations, just as they do on this play.

Need more explanation?  Cover 3 means that the defensive secondary splits the deep zones in 1/3s, with the corners and a safety splitting the deep zone.  Cover 2 means that 2 secondary players split the deep zones into 1/2s, with the safeties usually doing the work.  However, when a team has more than 1 receiver on a side, a defensive corner is taught to go deep if both receivers go deep, effectively making it a 1/4-1/4-1/2 arrangement.  If there are 2 or more wide-recievers on each side, and more than 1 goes deep on each side, you end up with a cover 4 arrangement, with the corners and safeties playing 1/4s on the deep zone.

Here are some pictures to help visualize:
Cover 2:


Cover 2, turning into cover 4 as the WRs go deep:


Now this is how we attacked the cover 3:

 

[puniraptor]

Yuck what a pervert.

[Trim]

He was giving tips on how to download the video from my youtube of the miami game.

[kso_FAN]

Not bad, but he should've added Sexton and the inside receiver crossing, which created even more space in the cover 3 seam.

Trim, on a side note, are you planning to upload every game to youtube? I'd appreciate it if you could. 

[kso_FAN]

And I'll add that its sad that someone can't just link stuff I've done to add to those discussions without it being taken down. Not that I'm all that great, but my goal is helping our fans understand the game. If GPC folks read it, its all good. Nothing I do is intended to be competition to what GPC does, even if the powers that be there make it that way.

[MadCat]

And I'll add that its sad that someone can't just link stuff I've done to add to those discussions without it being taken down. Not that I'm all that great, but my goal is helping our fans understand the game. If GPC folks read it, its all good. Nothing I do is intended to be competition to what GPC does, even if the powers that be there make it that way.

This has been a public service _FANnouncement.

[Emo EMAW]

And I'll add that its sad that someone can't just link stuff I've done to add to those discussions without it being taken down. Not that I'm all that great, but my goal is helping our fans understand the game. If GPC folks read it, its all good. Nothing I do is intended to be competition to what GPC does, even if the powers that be there make it that way.

Just put a stamp on every image or whatever.  You should take it as a form of flattery, IMO. 

[Trim]

Not bad, but he should've added Sexton and the inside receiver crossing, which created even more space in the cover 3 seam.

Trim, on a side note, are you planning to upload every game to youtube? I'd appreciate it if you could. 

I should be able to for any that are on regular TV and so long as there aren't any youtube copyright gripes.  Even if youtube kills it, I'll have them and we could figure out some other method to get them to you.

[puniraptor]

I wonder how many times he says EVERYONE KNOWS while kicking ass in the courtroom.

[kso_FAN]

the pass to Trujillo.  That was a scheme doctor special. I think it was a derivative of the #2 play you showed.  Ball on the left hash, Pistol formation, WR to the far and near side, double tight (both uncovered), TE from near side motions far side (wr near side covers tackle), play action.....freezes both safeties and LB's, both TE's run vertical routes (far side TE - Trujillo - runs from far hash to near hash), outside receivers run deep outs.

As catzacker said, K-State is aligned in a double tight end formation, 1 back pistol, and 2 receivers. Miami has brought their outside linebacker up to the line of scrimmage on the wide side of the field. They are showing 2 deep safeties (one is off the frame) and now are playing their corners off the recievers 5-7 yards.



Before the snap K-State executes a shift, with the tight end backing up and the bottom receiver moving up on the line of scrimmage. The tight end then motions across the formation. Miami's only adjustment is to begin to bring the deep safety up toward the line of scrimmage and the weak side of the formation. Miami likely does this because K-State often will run back to the weak side, especially with zone read action from the pistol. Sams biggest run of the game comes later from the same set, though without the shift and motion. The tight end or fullback will come back to the weak side from that alignment and block the outside linebacker or safety for the quarter back with the back running behind zone blocking to the strong side. This also forces Miami into a cover 3 zone.



Right before the snap Miami looks to be fine; they have 2 linebackers and a safety over the top of the stacked tight ends. The safety circles here now becomes the deep middle zone defender and you'll see how two verticals from the tight ends puts him in a bind. However, K-State also knows the tendency of Miami's linebackers to come forward at the snap, especially with a zone read fake (which happens here, but is not shown in the frames). As a result they don't get a good jam on tight ends releasing, especially out of this formation. More on that later.



The tight end that motioned runs wide to the top side hash which freezes and widens the deep safety (on the PowerCat); the safety is just stopping his forward motion after reading the zone read fake. This allows Tannahill to get off on his route easily, you can see circled the middle linebacker barely gets a piece of him as he runs by. The others safety toward the bottom of the screen has also stepped up with the run fake and Miami now has no deep middle defender to cover the tight end vertical route.



Trujillo makes the catch with no one within 5 yards and is able to get the ball down to the 5 yard line.



This play also shows how coaches pick up tendencies that they use later in the game. In all likely hood, the K-State offensive coaches knew they could get an opening with this formation from this play in the 1st quarter. Wilson is at tight end here, but K-State executed the same shift and motion to get to the same alignment. Now, Miami is a slightly different defensive alignment and coverage, but the mistake by the linebacker is the same. Klein ended up throwing this ball outside to Harper, but the inside tight end was also wide open down the middle on this route.



Here you see the tight end running free with the linebacker (this time an outside linebacker) making the same mistake of not getting a good jam on him. The safeties are also coming forward and out of position from the run fake.