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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2012, 10:23:14 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #76 on: August 13, 2012, 10:24:36 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

no crap?  that's a pretty good way of doing it.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #77 on: August 13, 2012, 10:37:35 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

no crap?  that's a pretty good way of doing it.

Yeah, that is pretty good.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2012, 11:38:01 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2012, 11:40:58 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.

posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea.  just a fwiw. 

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2012, 11:42:48 AM »
There are a handful of parameters and requests

Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2012, 11:43:14 AM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.


hmmm....what else do you know? like, anything that would interest all of us.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2012, 12:05:21 PM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.

posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea.  just a fwiw.

I said multiple times that the schedule was basically no different than in years past. Did not know you wanted a breakdown of scheduling mechanics.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2012, 12:07:29 PM »
There are a handful of parameters and requests

Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?

Yes, Big Monday games and national TV games on CBS etc are usually predetermined through the league office and the TV partner before the complete schedule is finalized. Other parameters are more logistical, like not playing too many/few Saturday home games, long home/road trips, stuff like that.

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2012, 12:13:53 PM »
KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.

yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.

posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea.  just a fwiw.

I said multiple times that the schedule was basically no different than in years past. Did not know you wanted a breakdown of scheduling mechanics.

yeah, in the future just assume that nobody here knows how anything works and explain it. 99% of the time that is the case. 

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Re: Big12 Schedule
« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2012, 12:14:25 PM »
There are a handful of parameters and requests

Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?

Yes, Big Monday games and national TV games on CBS etc are usually predetermined through the league office and the TV partner before the complete schedule is finalized. Other parameters are more logistical, like not playing too many/few Saturday home games, long home/road trips, stuff like that.

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I think it's partially random, in that certain games are set in advance like Big Mondays and any weird crap like when ku and mizzou would play on cbs at the end of the year.  With those set, the rest of them are done by some computer randomizer program (shoutout to when we did the BBBS raffle live on tape from the chef) that has all sorts of criteria about home/away in a row and travel and stuff.  Unless we're talking about getting picked for Big Monday or other sorts of special games, I doubt the schedule in general has anything to do with our newfound fondness for chicken nuggets.