Grinder (Tech adv stats part 2)

[kso_FAN]

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   30   1.04   30.8%   16.8%   33.3%   69.2%
Opp   30   0.57   30.0%   43.8%   50.0%   40.0%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   1.05   39.6%   27.7%   52.4%   91.7%
Opp   33   0.89   38.9%   27.7%   16.7%   100.0%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   63   1.04   35.0%   22.3%   42.9%   80.0%
Opp   63   0.73   34.2%   35.1%   35.7%   68.4%

Didn't quite match the .68 points per possession allowed in Lubbock, but still great defense (even against a terrible team).

Offense was ugly, but we were actually better than our average in Big 12 play for PPP, TO%, OR% and FTR. Shooting was bad though.

I'm always amazed at fan reaction to grinders. I just expect 2-4 of them a year in Big 12 play.

[nicname]

Didn't think we would be >1 ppp.  We could have easily beaten them by 40.  I'm fine with the game. 

[kso_FAN]

Didn't think we would be >1 ppp.  We could have easily beaten them by 40.  I'm fine with the game. 

I enjoyed watching it.

[michigancat]

First half defense.

[nicname]

There is something nice about a game where you can  at some of its horridness while having absolutely no concern about the final outcome.  That last TT run fueled by the short kids thre point barrage was kind of aggravating though.

[Powercat Posse]

Defensively, we were lights out (no matter how bad Tech is) for most of this game.    They did not make a FG in the 2nd half until 10:12.   That broke a string of 3-23 shooting and 17 turnovers over almost 27 minutes.    They had 14 pts in those 27 minutes.  Just sick.

Offensively.    We had 18 off rebounds and 14 turnovers.      Those are nice numbers.   We are gonna have a chance to win a lot of games with those 2 stat categories looking like that.  1) The 19 and 20 turnover games in losses vs OU twice and Baylor were killers.    Keep the TOs under 15 and thats very acceptible.   2)  18 off boards to 24 def boards for Tech.   The 42.9 OR% also very acceptible

The 30-40 FTs.  Hey one of our best showings in quite some time.



The 6-26 FG shooting is just dreadful.  No getting around it.    But hey we struggled against aTm in the 1st hf (36% shooting, 9 TOs, and only 31 OR% .... adding up to 25 pts).  We picked it up in the 2nd half vs aTm (12-22FG 14-16 FT, only 6 TOs)      What probably makes tonight more frustrating is we came out decent offensivly in the 2nd half, but then had only 1 point in nearly 7 minutes.    And with 2;30 to play we have 50 lousy points.  

So the overall offensive performance wasnt as dreadful as i first thought.    Yes it was a grinder........... lets just avoid combining the fact that we had 15 pts in the games first 15 minutes plus had a dry stretch of 1 point in almost 7 minutes in the 2nd half

[MakeItRain]

I expected a FTr of infinity, close.

[Cartierfor3]

Didn't think we would be >1 ppp.  We could have easily beaten them by 40.  I'm fine with the game. 

I enjoyed watching it.

Last 5 of 1st and first 11 or 12 of 2nd were good.  I think most of the complaints were about the last 5 minutes, which were awful. 

[Fuktard]

I loved watching it...loved the defense and really enjoyed watching our ever improving zone d, which will pay dividends at some point against a quality opponent (it also gives endless talking points to the lbbiq's).   JO getting his groove back was also important and enjoyable to watch.  Thought Shane was gonna get Franked so nice to see him get minutes and actually contribute.  It's also nice when you can win and get several "learning opportunities" which I am confident Frank will take advantage of.

[kso_FAN]

I loved watching it...loved the defense and really enjoyed watching our ever improving zone d, which will pay dividends at some point against a quality opponent (it also gives endless talking points to the lbbiq's).   JO getting his groove back was also important and enjoyable to watch.  Thought Shane was gonna get Franked so nice to see him get minutes and actually contribute.  It's also nice when you can win and get several "learning opportunities" which I am confident Frank will take advantage of.

The defensive effort for both teams was really good. Tech is not very talented right now, but their guys did play really hard (especially on defense) and they made it tough on our offense. Their wrinkles (both the zone and triangle and 2) bothered us more than it should, but overall I wasn't overally discouraged by our offense. We O-boarded and got to the line. We'll be fine in Austin. The fun stretch of games is coming and we'll know a lot after the next two weeks.

[mcmwcat]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

[kso_FAN]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

Frank said we just didn't run what they worked on.

[kougar24]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

Frank said we just didn't run what they worked on.

So our team really is full of morons, then.

[kso_FAN]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

Frank said we just didn't run what they worked on.

So our team really is full of morons, then.

Yeah, Frank pretty much said as much after the game. A lot about not being focused.

But we were playing Tech.

[puniraptor]

I like Diaz more every day. Kid has a future here.

[kougar24]

I like Diaz more every day. Kid has a future here.

He's really good at "going to the ball" on rebounds.

Not so good at grabbing said ball or avoiding falling out of bounds w/ said ball, though.

[kso_FAN]

I like Diaz more every day. Kid has a future here.

He's really good at "going to the ball" on rebounds.

Not so good at grabbing said ball or avoiding falling out of bounds w/ said ball, though.

Not always, but he's solid. The easy comparision is with JO, but he's a bit different. Diaz seems to be more skilled, but he's not as athletic or explosive. He's not nearly the shot blocker nor defensive rebounder, but is a better shooter, passer, and offensive rebounder. The same trend shows up whether you compare Diaz to JO this year or either of his previous seasons.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=jordan-henriguez-roberts&jordan-henriguez-roberts=2011-2012&p1=adrian-diaz

[Fuktard]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

It's the job of the 2 being guarded man to man to stay the hell out of the way of the 3 being zoned.  If you watched the last game they went with a junk defense against us we destroyed it with simple passing/sets within the "triangle" zone and they quickly got out of it and went back to man.  This game, not so much.  It hurt not having Angel in to break down the triangle and put passes at the rim.

[mcmwcat]

what was up when Tech went triangle-and-2 and our guards just sat in the corner?  was very weird.  were we working on something for when Self does that or trying to hide something from him?   

It's the job of the 2 being guarded man to man to stay the hell out of the way of the 3 being zoned.  If you watched the last game they went with a junk defense against us we destroyed it with simple passing/sets within the "triangle" zone and they quickly got out of it and went back to man.  This game, not so much.  It hurt not having Angel in to break down the triangle and put passes at the rim.

i guess if you are happy playing 3 on 3.  i assume you skipped the part where Frank said they weren't doing the right thing.

[Fuktard]

"I tell you the one thing I was excited about was our zone defense was pretty good today," Martin said. "We got a little lazy when the score got to whatever it got, but I thought our zone defense was pretty good. For the most part, they talked, guarded the ball, got to the right places, we didn't give them easy shots, and the other thing it did is we finally started grabbing some defensive rebounds. We at least got something positive out of that.

[catzacker]

was our defense good againist mu or did they just miss shots?  i'm tending to lean towards the latter.  we're their statistical anamaly.

[kso_FAN]

was our defense good againist mu or did they just miss shots?  i'm tending to lean towards the latter.  we're their statistical anamaly.

Both.

[MakeItRain]

was our defense good againist mu or did they just miss shots?  i'm tending to lean towards the latter.

Ha!  I need kornheiser to chime in here.