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Team Sams or Team Bender?

Daniel Sams
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2011, 09:24:10 AM »
I'm probably going to wait until Bender start practicing to pick a favorite.  I really need to see who does things the right wayerest before I can make an informed decision.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2011, 10:46:54 AM »
what I'm saying is he probably has a better arm than Klein so why would you call the Sams package the "wildcat" and not the "Sams throwing laser rocket passes all over the field and also running if he feels like it" package?
It's because Sams is black.


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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 10:57:13 AM »
what I'm saying is he probably has a better arm than Klein so why would you call the Sams package the "wildcat" and not the "Sams throwing laser rocket passes all over the field and also running if he feels like it" package?
It's because Sams is black.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2011, 11:00:05 AM »
I just want Sams to do well so he can upgrade his jersey chaser selection. 
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2011, 11:01:51 AM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2011, 11:04:47 AM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Klein runs it pretty well. I don't really like it with Pease, though.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2011, 11:10:28 AM »
the "Sams throwing laser rocket passes all over the field and also running if he feels like it" package?

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2011, 11:34:43 AM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

_fan broke down the short yardage effectiveness of DT in the wildcat last year. Also, Pease scored a TD. Also, it's pretty much what we run every down this year.
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2011, 11:47:18 AM »
what I'm saying is he probably has a better arm than Klein so why would you call the Sams package the "wildcat" and not the "Sams throwing laser rocket passes all over the field and also running if he feels like it" package?
It's because Sams is black. known to be a pretty good athlete regardless of skin color.
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2011, 11:51:53 AM »
I'm so proud of you guys. #teamsams

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2011, 12:19:26 PM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Not great, but not terrible. Pease averages nearly 5 YPC and has 2 TDs (on 24 carries) in conference games and almost everyone of his runs was out of the Wildcat.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2011, 12:23:07 PM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Not great, but not terrible. Pease averages nearly 5 YPC and has 2 TDs (on 24 carries) in conference games and almost everyone of his runs was out of the Wildcat.

I guess I'm waiting for something spectacular, but I shouldn't have that expectation with this team.  My bad

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2011, 12:31:34 PM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Not great, but not terrible. Pease averages nearly 5 YPC and has 2 TDs (on 24 carries) in conference games and almost everyone of his runs was out of the Wildcat.

I guess I'm waiting for something spectacular, but I shouldn't have that expectation with this team.  My bad

The wildcat isn't really designed to be spectacular. It's designed to get you past the linemen and linebackers.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2011, 12:33:38 PM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Not great, but not terrible. Pease averages nearly 5 YPC and has 2 TDs (on 24 carries) in conference games and almost everyone of his runs was out of the Wildcat.

I guess I'm waiting for something spectacular, but I shouldn't have that expectation with this team.  My bad

I think this is the misconception of the Wildcat though. It has become something that it is not, it seems like most fans think of it like a gadget play that should score, similar to a reverse pass or flee flicker pass. I don't think that was ever the purpose; but what it does do is often create a numbers advantage in the running game and a coach can be confident that his team is going to get a positive gain from it; but not necessarily a "big play'. Also, its another facet that a defense has to spend time preparing for during the week. I've just come to think of it as part of the running game and a specific package, sort of like zone/stretch read option is a package that is part of our running game scheme. If a major part of your running game scheme averages nearly 5 YPC its hard to complain.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2011, 02:11:46 PM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

Not great, but not terrible. Pease averages nearly 5 YPC and has 2 TDs (on 24 carries) in conference games and almost everyone of his runs was out of the Wildcat.

I guess I'm waiting for something spectacular, but I shouldn't have that expectation with this team.  My bad

I think this is the misconception of the Wildcat though. It has become something that it is not, it seems like most fans think of it like a gadget play that should score, similar to a reverse pass or flee flicker pass. I don't think that was ever the purpose; but what it does do is often create a numbers advantage in the running game and a coach can be confident that his team is going to get a positive gain from it; but not necessarily a "big play'. Also, its another facet that a defense has to spend time preparing for during the week. I've just come to think of it as part of the running game and a specific package, sort of like zone/stretch read option is a package that is part of our running game scheme. If a major part of your running game scheme averages nearly 5 YPC its hard to complain.
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 02:27:49 PM »
Im all about Sams too, however he is taking more snaps at WR in practice, have heard some Rumblings he would make Blackmon look like a bitch.    :drool:

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2011, 01:00:21 AM »
Im all about Sams too, however he is taking more snaps at WR in practice, have heard some Rumblings he would make Blackmon look like a bitch.    :drool:

haha, no.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2011, 01:08:27 AM »
Im all about Sams too, however he is taking more snaps at WR in practice, have heard some Rumblings he would make Blackmon look like a bitch.    :drool:

haha, no.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2011, 07:26:10 AM »
Team Sams until i hear rumblings Bender is amazing or something.
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2011, 08:41:12 AM »
When has the "wildcat" formation really worked for us?  Everybody always says how it adds another blocker, etc.  For some reason, it seems our opposing defenses get an extra tackler on these plays.

It's because whenever we go wildcat the other team swaps a safety for a spy.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2011, 10:32:57 AM »
Remember that time DT passed it to Banks? Oh man. Good times.
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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2011, 10:35:58 AM »
staff is very high on Bender and are extremely excited about what he brings both physically and in terms of intangibles

also Sams brings versatility and ability to be productive at a number of offesive positions

= Bender at QB in 2013

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2011, 12:30:09 PM »
I'm going with a darkhorse mystery QB.

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Re: Sams vs. Bender
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2011, 01:08:13 PM »
I'm going with a darkhorse mystery QB.
Sam Johnson?