Author Topic: Well, that didn't take long (Read 12286 times)

Andy · « **Reply #25 on:** October 23, 2011, 12:47:00 AM »

wonder if he regrets not going to stanford

jabba11 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 23, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »

Quote from: Andy on October 23, 2011, 12:47:00 AM

wonder if he regrets not going to stanford

Gill is an example of how to take 3 and 4 star recruits and lose horribly with them Snyder is a good example of how to take 2 3 and 4 star recruits and make them winners..Thereby proving that "star" talent doesnt always translate to a winning program..

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2011, 10:16:09 AM »

Quote from: jabba11 on October 23, 2011, 08:36:17 AM

Quote from: Andy on October 23, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
wonder if he regrets not going to stanford
Gill is an example of how to take 3 and 4 star recruits and lose horribly with them Snyder is a good example of how to take 2 3 and 4 star recruits and make them winners..Thereby proving that "star" talent doesnt always translate to a winning program..

Gill is an example of why you need good players at every position, not just one position. Recruiting rankings are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because they just aggregate stars (which is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to begin with). They don't look at "needs filled".

eastcat · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2011, 10:42:28 AM »

Quote from: OregonHawk on January 31, 2010, 07:48:38 PM

No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA. Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Cire · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2011, 02:38:15 PM »

Quote from: eastcat on October 23, 2011, 10:42:28 AM

Quote from: OregonHawk on January 31, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA. Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes. I don't know if Stanford does.

jtksu · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2011, 02:50:15 PM »

Pretty sure private schools can admit just about anyone they want to. I doubt Stanford would sully their rep by letting in a shot load of dummies but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't admit a few athletes who don't meet their normal requirements.

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2011, 02:55:00 PM »

Quote from: Cire on October 24, 2011, 02:38:15 PM

Quote from: eastcat on October 23, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: OregonHawk on January 31, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA. Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes. I don't know if Stanford does.

I doubt they do, and they probably parade that fact around 24/7.

I love SU's weird majors they make for football players. Tobi gerhardt was a "engineering sciences" major. WTF is that?

jtksu · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:09:11 PM »

Management Sciences and Engineering. Gerhart is a smart dude.

articles.sfgate.com/2009-12-13/bay-area/17220818_1_toby-gerhart-heisman-finalists-stanford

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:13:55 PM »

Love the token "only athletes at stanford go to class" article.

Thanks JT.

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Mom and son had meetings to study philosophy, public speaking, biology and anthropology. Their biology professor didn't think a 13-year-old could do the work. She graded Gerhart's first exam in front of all the students.

To her disbelief, he had earned the highest score in the class.

jtksu · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:23:17 PM »

Yeah, pretty everyone is the starting RB and CF at their school while carrying 21 hrs. Yawn. So typical. :rollseyes:

deputy dawg · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:27:32 PM »

Quote from: Andy on October 23, 2011, 12:47:00 AM

wonder if he regrets not going to stanford

ku is pretty much on par with Stanford, Harvard on the Kaw, Berkley of the Midwest, etc. At least that's what I hear.

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:31:15 PM »

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ku is pretty much on par with Stanford, Harvard on the Kaw, Berkley of the Midwest, etc. At least that's what I hear.

kstaters can be such retards.

deputy dawg · « **Reply #37 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:33:22 PM »

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kstaters can be such retards.

Yeah, fff, you'd be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) too if you heard the nicnames ku grads give their school as much as I have.

jtksu · « **Reply #38 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:34:35 PM »

FFF gets so bitchy sometimes, even lashing out at his KSU brethren. Dude is all west coast now.

OregonSmock · « **Reply #39 on:** October 24, 2011, 03:36:01 PM »

Lawrence really is a great place to go to school. So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.

AzCat · « **Reply #40 on:** October 24, 2011, 04:01:36 PM »

Quote from: OregonHawk on October 24, 2011, 03:36:01 PM

Lawrence really is a great place to go to school. So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.

Yeah I hear Haskell & Free State are pretty sweet.

EMAWzified · « **Reply #41 on:** October 24, 2011, 04:07:47 PM »

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Lawrence really is a great place to go to school. So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.

It's OK, but provincial and locked in the 60s. Visited Manhappiness for the first time in about six months Saturday to watch the game with my brother. Hardly recognized the city. Construction everywhere. Bio-weapons lab is going to transform Manhattan into the Midwest's economic engine (even if it means there's a 90 percent chance the zombie apocalypse originates there).

waks · « **Reply #42 on:** October 26, 2011, 02:34:50 AM »

Quote from: fatty fat fat on October 24, 2011, 02:55:00 PM

Quote from: Cire on October 24, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: eastcat on October 23, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: OregonHawk on January 31, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA. Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes. I don't know if Stanford does.

I doubt they do, and they probably parade that fact around 24/7.

I love SU's weird majors they make for football players. Tobi gerhardt was a "engineering sciences" major. WTF is that?

Luck is an architectural design major which is unaccredited according to a friend that goes to Stanford.

jtksu · « **Reply #43 on:** October 26, 2011, 02:47:01 AM »

Will that keep Luck from making stupid, guaratneed NFL money? :ohnol:

ednksu · « **Reply #44 on:** October 26, 2011, 02:55:00 AM »

To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards. They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption. Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications. FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year. 76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.

waks · « **Reply #45 on:** October 26, 2011, 03:16:44 AM »

Quote from: ednksu on October 26, 2011, 02:55:00 AM

To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards. They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption. Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications. FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year. 76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.

I believe the NCAA rules say that you can make exemptions to your acceptance requirements for athletes as long as you make the same exemptions for students that are talented in other areas (i.e. music, debate/forensics, theater, etc.)

Apologies if this was the exact same thing you were trying to say.

ednksu · « **Reply #46 on:** October 26, 2011, 03:30:34 AM »

Quote from: waks on October 26, 2011, 03:16:44 AM

Quote from: ednksu on October 26, 2011, 02:55:00 AM
To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards. They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption. Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications. FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year. 76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.
I believe the NCAA rules say that you can make exemptions to your acceptance requirements for athletes as long as you make the same exemptions for students that are talented in other areas (i.e. music, debate/forensics, theater, etc.)

Apologies if this was the exact same thing you were trying to say.

Yeah it is. I was trying to say it the way you did through the example at FSU where it was a crap load of football players and one cellist and a few dancers or some crap. From what I got out of the Outside the Lines report it was largely up to the schools to establish who gets these exemptions and than they have to keep them up to par with the NCAA from there. Tagging them as LD students gives them a lot more flexibility in modifying courses to keep people eligible.