was the ksu football team "competitive" last year?

[Dr Rick Daris]

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my opinion would be yes. not a good fball team by any means but def competitive. wins over ucla and a central florida team that finished in the top 25. blow outs of ku and texas. five point loss to baylor on the road. ten point loss to mu on the road. ten point loss to osu. eight point loss to cu on the road. two point loss to syracuse in bowl game. overall seems like this is the definition of competitive, but i was told the exact opposite from a very smart emaw person the other day. thoughts?

[Dr Rick Daris]

ok assholes. i see how it is. a simple yes or no would've been just fine you know? 

[kcchiefdav]

I'd agree with you that the football team was competitive last year. It's hard to remember how well the offense, specifically the run game, played most of year because the defense was so bad for the last 6 weeks or so of the season (which isn't to say the defense was ever not bad, it just got worse).

[chum1]

you need to learn to fight your own battles, dude.

[DQ12]

Save for a few games (Nebraska being the most notable) the football team seemed "competitive."  BTW I define "competitive" as having a chance to win it at the start of the fourth quarter.

[J]

yes AND no.

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[Kat Kid]

When your aspirations are pedestrian, everyone walks.

[yoga-like_abana]

yes, that colorado game still pisses me off. especially the hawk moseying around.

[Dr Rick Daris]

you need to learn to fight your own battles, dude.

oh i am chum1. don't you worry about that.

[Stevesie60]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

just ku's

[Dr Rick Daris]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

well central florida finished in the top 20 and kstate held them to 13 points and won. maybe you want more than one example though. i'm not sure.

[jtksu]

The question wasn't if KState was competitive with the top teams in the nation, it was if the Cats were competitive overall.  The answer is yes but I don't think many people are satisfied with that level of play.  Beat CU, Baylor, and Cuse and that is a solid season.

[wetwillie]

Yea our team was competitive last year for sure. Not sure why its relevant though. Guess some people like to live in the past

[0.42]

if we'd had a defense worth a crap last year, we could've gone 10-2. So yes, we were competitive.

[Stevesie60]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

well central florida finished in the top 20 and kstate held them to 13 points and won. maybe you want more than one example though. i'm not sure.

Central Florida's offense stopped themselves, and you know it.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

well central florida finished in the top 20 and kstate held them to 13 points and won. maybe you want more than one example though. i'm not sure.

Central Florida's offense stopped themselves, and you know it.

football games are played on the field. and kstates football team was involved in every single football game they play going into the second half last year, except nebraska. those games happen. texas and ku weren't involved in their games against ksu when the second half started. overall it silly to argue that kstate wasn't competitive last year. unless of course the argument is whether or not kstate was competitive against top ten teams in the nation and then it gets a little more blurry. start a new thread maybe? 

[Stevesie60]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

well central florida finished in the top 20 and kstate held them to 13 points and won. maybe you want more than one example though. i'm not sure.

Central Florida's offense stopped themselves, and you know it.

football games are played on the field. and kstates football team was involved in every single football game they play going into the second half last year, except nebraska. those games happen. texas and ku weren't involved in their games against ksu when the second half started. overall it silly to argue that kstate wasn't competitive last year. unless of course the argument is whether or not kstate was competitive against top ten teams in the nation and then it gets a little more blurry. start a new thread maybe? 

I know how I feel about last year's team. You're the one going through a K-State identity crisis, starting threads about whether or not we were competitive.I gave my opinion, and it remains the same.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I say no, but my standard of competitive is pretty high. I think being competitive requires being able to compete/have a chance at beating the best teams in the country. I don't think we could have competed with any top 10 teams, as was demonstrated by our game against nubb. Honestly, what offense were we capable of stopping last year?

well central florida finished in the top 20 and kstate held them to 13 points and won. maybe you want more than one example though. i'm not sure.

Central Florida's offense stopped themselves, and you know it.

football games are played on the field. and kstates football team was involved in every single football game they play going into the second half last year, except nebraska. those games happen. texas and ku weren't involved in their games against ksu when the second half started. overall it silly to argue that kstate wasn't competitive last year. unless of course the argument is whether or not kstate was competitive against top ten teams in the nation and then it gets a little more blurry. start a new thread maybe? 

I know how I feel about last year's team. You're the one going through a K-State identity crisis, starting threads about whether or not we were competitive.I gave my opinion, and it remains the same.

somebody that i value a lot told me last night that kstate was not a competitive fball team last year and it baffled me. hence the thread. they were competitive last year. good? debatable. bad? debatable. competitive? yeah. hence the thread.

[jtksu]

Stevie60 is clearly an old fat guy that holds others to nearly impossible standards while he himself hasn't actually ran farther than the distance from his fridge to his (half empty) loveseat in nearly 3 decades.  I mean, we can all agree that's true, right?