K-State on LHN?

[AbeFroman]

ABC 7pm game or nothing. eff all other options

[HeinBallz]

I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it.  I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it.  I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM.  If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something. 

If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.   

Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD

From what I understand, the only FB game that will be on K-StateHD live will be eastern Kentucky

[Panjandrum]

I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it.  I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it.  I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM.  If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something. 

If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.   

Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD

It seems like a pretty easy solution to me (tell me if I'm wrong).

LHN carries the game in the state of Texas, and they black it out on ESPN and ESPN 3 in Texas.  However, the game will be shown on ESPN 3 outside of the state.

I mean, it would be cool to make some money off of this, but negotiate the appearance fee with LHN ($750K?) and make sure it gets on ESPN 3 outside of the state.

I mean, really, this will be a huge deal in Texas.  Lots of media blitz, lots of coverage, and if we win, even better.  I mean, if all eyes in Texas are on the LHN the week we play them, that will be good exposure in a critical state for us.

I get the pros and cons, but if we can secure at least $500-$750K for a road game with heavy media coverage in your most important recruiting state, why say no?


* Totally willing to watch the game on ESPN 3 and not complain about it.

[pissclams]

wait.  were you clowns under the assumption that UT was going to pay an assload of money to us so they could show this game on LHN, and that some how you'd still be able to watch it through another source? 

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?

just curious

[KITNfury]

How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?

just curious

Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and  can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.

[MixBerryCrunch]

How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?

just curious

Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and  can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.

If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.

[Panjandrum]

How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?

just curious

Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and  can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.

If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.

It depends on money and if it can be seen via other means (ESPN 3).

I mean you could even televise it nationally and black it out in Texas and make the folks down there watch the World Series of Poker on the deuce.

There's a lot of stuff here to negotiate.  I bet we ultimately get a pretty sweet deal on it.

[MixBerryCrunch]

How much money do we make from an ESPN broadcast?

just curious

Yeah, that's an important component here. First, we actually have the upper hand for negotiation. This game will be on TV no matter what. UT/ESPN is desperate to nab a Big 12 game and  can't be sure any other opponents will agree. If we can't show it on kstatehd.tv, then we pretty much have to rape them on the fee to put our game on there. What constitutes "rape" depends on whatever we'd probably get on network X this year.

If they are going to make everyone w/o LHN watch a game on a computer screen that would otherwise be televised nationally, then anything less than 1mil is completely unacceptable. I have no doubt that Currie knows this and will negotiate the crap out of this deal.

It depends on money and if it can be seen via other means (ESPN 3).

I mean you could even televise it nationally and black it out in Texas and make the folks down there watch the World Series of Poker on the deuce.

There's a lot of stuff here to negotiate.  I bet we ultimately get a pretty sweet deal on it.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having LHN. I mean you want the games to be exclusive to the LHN so Texas fans have buy it to see the game. The LHN isn't intended to be just in the state of Texas, right? So, blacking out Texas wouldn't do much good except to piss off off anybody in the state of Texas who wants to see the game but doesn't have the network.

[Boom Roasted]

Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.

Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it.  A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press. 

Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all  on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
 :kstatriot:NOAT

[username]

If it increases the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am for it.
If it decreases the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am against it.
If it has no impact on the likelihood that I will be able to watch the game I am for it.

[KITNfury]

Complete middle of the road reply

FYP

[06wildcat]

Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.

Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it.  A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press. 

Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all  on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
 :kstatriot:NOAT

My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.

This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.

[DQ12]

I would have no problem with this if the payday was $1MM and was allowed to be shown on KstateHD, as long as KSU doesn't put a minimum monthly purchase on it.  I want to be able to pay $10 for November access and thats it.  I would have no problem knowing my $10 was helping get KSU another $1MM.  If this happens, i just hope KSU doesn't get gready and only offer the telecast to annual subscribers only or something. 

If the only option for people in Kansas to experience the CTR is Wyattvision there should be no way in hell they allow it.   

Unless ESPN and ESPN3 change their stance, a game on the LHN will not be shown on K-StateHD

Hmm. Yeah. eff the LHN then.

Wow.  No.

Would still be up for the CTR to be on LHN.  My stance on this may be entirely influenced by my autumn trip to Austin to see the CTR live in person.

[Houstoncat93]

Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.

Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it.  A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press. 

Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all  on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
 :kstatriot:NOAT

My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.

This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.

ESPN is asking for a reported .40 per subscriber and most of the cable companies think that is way to much.  The BIG 10 network only gets something like .80 per subscriber and I think that is only in Big 10 country.  Your $1 per subscriber is way way off.

[06wildcat]

Doubtful that ESPN/LHN/KStateHD could agree on it but the idea of getting paid 500-750K for almost certainly the best rated program on the LHN and being able to watch it on KStateHD if you are not in the LHN network would be a pretty sweet option.

Either way if this game is on the LHN it will have huge hype being the first big game on the network so everyone in a huge recruiting state and most people elsewhere would be talking about it.  A&M and others would cry about it and give us more press. 

Then when we end up taking the game by a few touchdowns we would get even more press because of everyone saying Texas went all  on their own stage and let the cats continue the domination.
 :kstatriot:NOAT

My guess is that most cable operators are going to put the LHN on basic or lowest sports tier in Texas. The conference game isn't so much to sell the network there, but to get fans of whatever team they get to sign up for a month plus outside Texas fans and collect the user fees, which I'm guessing are about $1 per subscriber. They're also banking on the fact it will take a few months for some people to cancel.

This contract is pure gold for ESPN, especially given Texas's growth population. If it can get the LHN to near ubiquity just in Texas, subscriber fees alone will make it worth several billion dollars.

ESPN is asking for a reported .40 per subscriber and most of the cable companies think that is way to much.  The BIG 10 network only gets something like .80 per subscriber and I think that is only in Big 10 country.  Your $1 per subscriber is way way off.

I'm talking about the average over the life of the contract. Cable channels are promoted just like crack.

[WillieWatanabe]

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