Soooo....

[Dirty Sanchez]

If Bush publishing a photo taken of him on 9/11 is "politicizing" 9/11, then what is a presidential event at GZ?

[wiley]

These 2 pictures are perfect examples of the spot light seeking retards we've had in the white house lately.

I recently heard our choices have been "2 bowls of crap, the only difference is the stench".  Can't wait for the epic crap circus that the next 2 candidates are going to be.

[pike]

These 2 pictures are perfect examples of the spot light seeking retards we've had in the white house lately.

I recently heard our choices have been "2 bowls of crap, the only difference is the stench".  Can't wait for the epic crap circus that the next 2 candidates are going to be.

This is the problem with politics today, and for a long time in the US. You can only chose between two candidates, and usually the choice is between a giant douche and a turd sandwich (South Park).

People always say, "If you don't vote, you can't complain about the government!"

Bull rough ridin' crap. IF the system only allows for 2 people to be voted for, and I don't want to vote for either one...than I have EVERY right to complain about ANYTHING. This is probably why such a large number of people don't vote...a lack of a "real" choice.

That said, I likely won't vote in '12 unless Ron Paul gets the R nomination...and as we all know is next to impossible.


/rant

[wiley]

I voted for 2 effing respects that have been running the country the last 6 years.  Bush basically was so effing scared of his own shadow the last 1.5 years because his approval rating was as bad as it's been in a long time for a president if not ever.  Then OB thinking government programs and money is the way to fix everything, and then bending over for the right because he wants re-elected.  1 thing i admire about republican presidents, at least they have a spine  = US government

[06wildcat]

These 2 pictures are perfect examples of the spot light seeking retards we've had in the white house lately.

I recently heard our choices have been "2 bowls of crap, the only difference is the stench".  Can't wait for the epic crap circus that the next 2 candidates are going to be.

This is the problem with politics today, and for a long time in the US. You can only chose between two candidates, and usually the choice is between a giant douche and a turd sandwich (South Park).

People always say, "If you don't vote, you can't complain about the government!"

Bull rough ridin' crap. IF the system only allows for 2 people to be voted for, and I don't want to vote for either one...than I have EVERY right to complain about ANYTHING. This is probably why such a large number of people don't vote...a lack of a "real" choice.

That said, I likely won't vote in '12 unless Ron Paul gets the R nomination...and as we all know is next to impossible.


/rant

Yeah, don't vote. That will change things. You sure show 'em there.

[pike]

These 2 pictures are perfect examples of the spot light seeking retards we've had in the white house lately.

I recently heard our choices have been "2 bowls of crap, the only difference is the stench".  Can't wait for the epic crap circus that the next 2 candidates are going to be.

This is the problem with politics today, and for a long time in the US. You can only chose between two candidates, and usually the choice is between a giant douche and a turd sandwich (South Park).

People always say, "If you don't vote, you can't complain about the government!"

Bull rough ridin' crap. IF the system only allows for 2 people to be voted for, and I don't want to vote for either one...than I have EVERY right to complain about ANYTHING. This is probably why such a large number of people don't vote...a lack of a "real" choice.

That said, I likely won't vote in '12 unless Ron Paul gets the R nomination...and as we all know is next to impossible.


/rant

Yeah, don't vote. That will change things. You sure show 'em there.

Why bother when you're vote doesn't count cause there's no difference between the candidates, and they're both crap heads?

[06wildcat]

So you are volunteering to run Paul's Kansas campaign office?

[pike]

No. The media and TPTB hate RP too much for him to ever have a chance.

And it's too late to change anything short of a massive paradigm shift...which is likely not going to happen since the people are so dumbed down by Jersey Shore, the Apprentice, the Kardashians, religion, etc. And if anyone tries to run against their party's mainstream ideas (Ron Paul) than the sheeple label that person "Crazy" and it's all over with.


So, IMO we're sort of stuck right now.

[06wildcat]

I don't like things the way they are. I hope someone comes along and does something for me. I'll just sit here eating Cheetos and making excuses until it happens.

[pike]

I don't like things the way they are. I hope someone comes along and does something for me. I'll just sit here eating Cheetos and making excuses until it happens.

All right, go vote for Obama or whoever runs for the Republicans. If you think you're making a difference, good for you.

[pike]

But '06 you're just proving my point, that people are OK with the way things are. And because of that we'll continue to have shitty leaders where half the country hates them, and the other half praises them. Even when they do the same damn things for their own stupid interests (and those that helped elect them)

Sad . . . really

[Rage Against the McKee]

You could always go in with a "vote-em-out" attitude. If you think the president has done a horrible job, you could always take the chance that the other guy might be better. Sometimes presidents are much different in office than they are as candidates. Just look at our last 2 presidents.

[pike]

Change of plans....

Gary Johnson....would vote

Herman Cain.....maybe


But Gary has as good a chance as Ron Paul since most hypocrite Americans don't understand libertarianism, so it's almost a moot point.

Herman Cain...I like his ideas of the fair tax, so yeah maybe, but...

....will the  tea party vote for a black man?

[06wildcat]

But '06 you're just proving my point, that people are OK with the way things are. And because of that we'll continue to have shitty leaders where half the country hates them, and the other half praises them. Even when they do the same damn things for their own stupid interests (and those that helped elect them)

Sad . . . really

Good thing MLK just looked at the country the way it was and said both sides are bad, sad ... really. Change in this country has never been easy, even for things we think of as barbaric today. If you're unhappy with something you have to change it. You have to convince people the change is in their best interest.

I volunteer every election for local and state candidates who, while not perfect, best represent my worldview. It's a lot tougher than sitting on the couch bitching about things, but at the end of the day I've actually helped make a difference, from establishing a community foundation with grants from a local government, to increasing education opportunities and saving an arts program. These are all things I've helped accomplish in places I've lived that happened because candidates I supported and worked to get elected won.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Change of plans....

Gary Johnson....would vote

Herman Cain.....maybe


But Gary has as good a chance as Ron Paul since most hypocrite Americans don't understand libertarianism, so it's almost a moot point.

Herman Cain...I like his ideas of the fair tax, so yeah maybe, but...

....will the  tea party vote for a black man?

Speaking of same as the other guy...

[Rage Against the McKee]

Change of plans....

Gary Johnson....would vote

Herman Cain.....maybe


But Gary has as good a chance as Ron Paul since most hypocrite Americans don't understand libertarianism, so it's almost a moot point.

Herman Cain...I like his ideas of the fair tax, so yeah maybe, but...

....will the  tea party vote for a black man?

Of the candidates at the debate last night, I would definitely rank them:

1. Ron Paul

2. Gary Johnson

3. Herman Cain

4. Tim Pawlenty - Dodged most of the questions he was asked. I don't think I'd vote for him.

5. Rick Santorum - Huge douche bag. I'd never vote for him under any circumstance.

[kougar24]

the Fair Tax wasn't Cain's idea, but I'm glad someone is supporting it publicly.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Fair tax sounds fantastic.  

http://www.fairtax.org

[kougar24]

Fair tax sounds fantastic.   

http://www.fairtax.org

welcome to koug's bandwagon circa 2005.

[pike]

the Fair Tax wasn't Cain's idea, but I'm glad someone is supporting it publicly.

Yeah I know. And I agree.

[wetwillie]

the Fair Tax wasn't Cain's idea, but I'm glad someone is supporting it publicly.

Yeah I know. And I agree.

It is be going to be difficult to convince the 50% of Americans who pay no federal income tax to vote for someone who wishes to change that.

[pike]

the Fair Tax wasn't Cain's idea, but I'm glad someone is supporting it publicly.

Yeah I know. And I agree.

It is be going to be difficult to convince the 50% of Americans who pay no federal income tax to vote for someone who wishes to change that.

Oh yeah...forgot about that brutal statistic 

[pike]

Oops...Herman Cain was chairman of the Fed, Kansas City branch. Scratch him off the list of people I would vote for.

That leaves Paul and Johnson.