Big 12 Overrated?

[CHONGS]

I suspect it might be. I don't have any evidence though so it's just wild-ass speculation. 

I imagine that, at most, 2 teams from the conference make it to the second weekend of the tournament.  I would even go so far to as 0 teams will probably make it. 

[AppleJack]

we always get mushed in the tourney, so yeah, probably

[420seriouscat69]

We did fairly well in the non-con, so maybe not? 

[michigancat]

There's a good chance of two number 1 seeds from the league. It would be almost impossible for no teams from the big 12 making it to the second weekend if that happened.

[TownieCat]

Seven Final Fours in 19 years, and five of those came in a three year span from '02-'04. 

[kso_FAN]

According to kenpom's conference strength rating, this is one of the Top 5 conferences since 2003. To be fair, I'm not sure how accurate you can compare year to year with his system.

Here are the Top 5:

1) 2004 ACC .8884
Georgia Tech and Duke made the Elite 8 and the Final 4.

2) 2016 Big 12 .8529

3) 2011 Big 10 .8459
No teams made the Elite 8 or the Final 4.

4) 2010 Big 12 .8493
K-State and Baylor made the Elite 8.

5) 2013 Big 10 .8459
Ohio State and Michigan made the Elite 8 and Michigan made the Final 4.

[pissclams]

cbb is "overrated" this season in that there really is no great team

compare the b12 to it's peer p5 conferences
the sec sucks (uk, maybe lsu b/c simmons)
the pac 12 sucks
the big 10 is pretty good (maryland, iowa, mich st)
the acc is very good (unc, virg, lville, duke, miami)
the big 12 is pretty good (ku, ou, isu, wvu, bay)

thinking about the elite 8, we have a good shot of having at least 1 team if not 2 make it there, award 1-2 to the b 10, 2 to the acc, and 3 wildcard from sec/pac 12/wildcard (big east/amer/etc)

[pissclams]

the teams i listed in parentheticals have the potential to beat any other team in the nation on any given day. i realize the same can be said of any team but let's be really real here

[TownieCat]

There isn't a single player in the Big 12 who has played in an Elite 8 game.

[pissclams]

There isn't a single player in the Big 12 who has played in an Elite 8 game.

the moon is 1/4 the size of earth

[sys]

There's a good chance of two number 1 seeds from the league. It would be almost impossible for no teams from the big 12 making it to the second weekend if that happened.

yeah, the league should get six teams in, all with good to great seeds.  if they play anything close to seed, they should have a great tourney.

[sys]

According to kenpom's conference strength rating, this is one of the Top 5 conferences since 2003. To be fair, I'm not sure how accurate you can compare year to year with his system.

it should be accurate between years if you assume that mean player quality is not different.  over the span of a decade or so, i think that's probably a fair assumption.  if we were looking at longer time spans, maybe not.

[nicname]

I pretty much go on the assumption that the Big 12 is always overrated until proven otherwise.

[TownieCat]

I pretty much go on the assumption that the Big 12 is always overrated until proven otherwise.

Yup. Hard to believe otherwise when just about every year the conference has a top 4 seed knocked out in the 1st round or a top 2 seed knocked out in the 2nd round.

[The Big Train]

There isn't a single player in the Big 12 who has played in an Elite 8 game.

the moon is 1/4 the size of earth

1/2 of all marriages end in divorce

[ChiComCat]

I think OU is pretty much a lock for the second week given where they will be seeded and how good Hield is down the stretch.  KU should be pretty well favored the first weekend.  I would expect both to make the sweet 16.

WVU will probably be favored the first weekend.  The other 3 Big 12 teams should be favored at least the first game.  I know the Big 12's history but don't think that past performance has a whole lot to do with this year.  If we don't have 3 in the sweet 16 I would be pretty surprised.