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WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2012, 03:46:22 PM »
Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.

Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year.  There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.

Look at it form Currie's perspective.  Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois.  If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap.  If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.

But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.

if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.

Given what we did last season and how few we graduated, it should be two in a row.

Anyone who's not a complete dumbass with crap for brains would fire him after two in a row, I'm saying that John Currie will fire him after 3 in a row.

Agreed.  Well put.

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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2012, 04:22:48 PM »
I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.

That's not the board's fault, that's oscar Weber's.

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i'm glad uw is gone.  never liked him and always thought he was stupid.  i hope thomas will be talking art's place next year.


this board was not burnitdown until the last couple of games.  it was pretty evenly split before.  if the team puts a few wins together, it'll be split again.
He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2012, 04:51:24 PM »
DAYTON

Oh, and the last guy we beat out Dayton for ended up being pretty good.

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Go oscar!

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DAYTON

Oh, and the last guy we beat out Dayton for ended up being pretty good.

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Go oscar!

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"Fire Asbury Now???????"

It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.

That's my issue.  I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO.  There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.

John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four.  We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.

And these players he's bringing in aren't bad.  They're fringe 150 players.  So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.

So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.

His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind.  Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank.  This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.

Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid.  Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras.  We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things.  I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him.  I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin.  And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.

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"Fire Asbury Now???????"

It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.

That's my issue.  I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO.  There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.

John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four.  We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.

And these players he's bringing in aren't bad.  They're fringe 150 players.  So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.

So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.

His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind.  Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank.  This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.

Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid.  Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras.  We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things.  I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him.  I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin.  And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.

I like to think of this board like a series of checks and balances. All of us at some point have made shirt tuck points, and we get called on it. Others take it too far to the #burnitdown crowd, and they get called on that as well.
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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2012, 06:10:11 PM »
"Fire Asbury Now???????"

It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.

That's my issue.  I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO.  There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.

John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four.  We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.

And these players he's bringing in aren't bad.  They're fringe 150 players.  So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.

So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.

His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind.  Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank.  This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.

Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid.  Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras.  We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things.  I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him.  I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin.  And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.

My hope is that the shiny new BTF will shorten the leash on Weber from what Currie would otherwise want to give him.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2012, 06:20:55 PM »
happy about Jevon. sad about UW.
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He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.

yeah.  i liked that a lot back when martin was kstate's coach.  now that weber is our coach, i don't care about kstate's recruiting, so it wasn't useful any more.
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He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.

yeah.  i liked that a lot back when martin was kstate's coach.  now that weber is our coach, i don't care about kstate's recruiting, so it wasn't useful any more.
I used to love the recruiting threads, then as soon as Weber got hired, I'd read them and be like, "Would take!" Then I'd get really sad thinking about how he recruited pretty well to Illinois, but still ran it into the ground.  So my mind could not get excited about the player anymore.  I would just skip the threads, and check in every few weeks.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2012, 09:17:19 PM »
I don't think me burning it down here or on twitter is going to make Currie and/or Webber get fired.  But it feels good.  I hate them for what they took from us, and I'm going to butthurt or whatever about it all the time, even if it's redundant.  Maybe it'll play a small role in either one of them hating being at K-State so much that they'll voluntarily leave sooner than later.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2012, 09:22:18 PM »
He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history.  Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done.  When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.

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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2012, 09:27:30 PM »
He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history.  Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done.  When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.

Logically you should be right, but I'm not sure Currie feels that way. I honestly think he views Weber as a "big name" that WENT TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN HIS CAREER THAT MATTERS!

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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2012, 09:57:32 PM »
He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history.  Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done.  When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.

Logically you should be right, but I'm not sure Currie feels that way. I honestly think he views Weber as a "big name" that WENT TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN HIS CAREER THAT MATTERS!

Not Currie's decision.  He'll give his pet project plenty of rope, we the people, all of us, will eventually make the decision for him.  He's a dollar and cents driven guy, you can spin numbers publicly, privately they scream.  You think the people that contributed to the BTF after sitting on their wallets for years are going to just stroll through the park blissfully whistling when their investment, K-State Basketball, depreciates?

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« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2012, 10:03:50 PM »
Not Currie's decision.  He'll give his pet project plenty of rope, we the people, all of us, will eventually make the decision for him.  He's a dollar and cents driven guy, you can spin numbers publicly, privately they scream.  You think the people that contributed to the BTF after sitting on their wallets for years are going to just stroll through the park blissfully whistling when their investment, K-State Basketball, depreciates?

Apparently not...


My hope is that the shiny new BTF will shorten the leash on Weber from what Currie would otherwise want to give him.

...but that doesn't mean Currie won't try to give him a longer leash. The people will ultimately rule the day, sure, but the AD has enough power to resist the trend for a time if he chooses.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2012, 11:53:37 PM »
EAT A DICK PENN STATE

umm....Pete.

HR needs to see you

DNR thread, but pete's profanity is one of this sites many treasures.
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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2012, 11:56:18 PM »
seems people like to point out (in)ability to dunk in games.  this little guy can.  :alleyoop:

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2012, 06:50:03 AM »
WELCOME NEW STUD RECRUIT!!!!

comeback UW, I like to read what you have to say about STUD's like this.

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Re: WELCOME JEVON THOMAS - SUCK IT DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2012, 03:03:37 PM »
I hope nobody plans on being in the NCAA Tourney every year if we keep getting guys like Jevon to lead our offense.

I don't blame this on Weber, this is all on Spradling. He has done this to our program. If he worked as hard to get a new HC as he does on his acne, he'd look like Zack Morris.
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Interesting Thread I stumbled across.

Bwebbs probably wins the thread.


I hope nobody plans on being in the NCAA Tourney every year if we keep getting guys like Jevon to lead our offense.

I don't blame this on Weber, this is all on Spradling. He has done this to our program. If he worked as hard to get a new HC as he does on his acne, he'd look like Zack Morris.
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