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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2010, 12:13:17 PM »
I don't know why people are scared of Irving running the point. If he follows the normal progression from true frosh to soph, he could be pretty good.
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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2010, 12:19:04 PM »
I'm pretty meh on McGruder.  Didn't do much after OOC, I mean, other than be better than Irving on offense.  Geez, wow.

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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2010, 12:23:44 PM »
I'm pretty meh on McGruder.  Didn't do much after OOC, I mean, other than be better than Irving on offense.  Geez, wow.

I think you're selling him short.  With the way he boarded and fought on offense, he's got the potential to not only match Sutton in "effort" plays, but also destroy him as an offensive player.  Then again, we were saying stuff about Sutton and potential three years ago, so I'll try to avoid beating this drum too loudly.   :gocho:
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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2010, 12:24:43 PM »
I'm pretty meh on McGruder.  Didn't do much after OOC, I mean, other than be better than Irving on offense.  Geez, wow.

For me, at least, it involves hoping that he becomes an offensive option for the 3 spot, since nothing really indicates Sutton will become one as a senior.

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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2010, 12:25:31 PM »
I'm pretty meh on McGruder.  Didn't do much after OOC, I mean, other than be better than Irving on offense.  Geez, wow.

Its hard to guage any of them besides Judge right now.  

Clearly Judge did some things right, going from 8.5 MPG in conference to 10.7 MPG in the Big 12 Tournament, to 17.8 MPG in the NCAA tournament.  Irving was the next most consistent with minutes; 9.9 conference, 8.7 Big 12 Tournament, 10.8 NCAAs.  Then McGruder with 15 conference, 7.7 Big 12 tournament, and 10.2 NCAA.  

Judge was asked to do more than either Irving or McGruder, but both showed some signs of being decent.  With Russell and JHR, I see no reason why those 5 can't be a solid core and lead us to at least one NCAA (depending on surrounding them with decent talent) when they are upperclassmen.

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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2010, 12:26:20 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

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« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2010, 12:27:20 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

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« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2010, 12:29:18 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

Yep.   :angry:

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« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2010, 12:29:57 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

I'm looking forward to it.   :eye:

Also, I'll just add that whomever is running the point is going to get it from the start of the season.  I feel sorry for whomever that is cause the offense is going to look like sh*t (relatively speaking) for a while until (a) a pg steps forward or (b) frank decides that he can't trust anyone but pullen.
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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2010, 12:35:51 PM »
Also, I'll just add that whomever is running the point is going to get it from the start of the season.  I feel sorry for whomever that is cause the offense is going to look like sh*t (relatively speaking) for a while until (a) a pg steps forward or (b) frank decides that he can't trust anyone but pullen.

Absolutely.  Probably going to be Irving, whom Frank will ask to focus on protecting the ball and distributing...more of a true PG style.  Pullen will have to get open at the 2 by using the big men as a threat, rather than Clemente.   And when we lose, fans will say it's because our PG is not a scoring threat...which may or may not be an accurate assessment.

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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2010, 12:44:27 PM »
all irving should do off season besides conitioning/weight room stuff is shoot about 1000 top of the key jumpers per day.

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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2010, 12:48:56 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

Wait 'til he gets the last remaining scholarship.  Should be fun around here.


As for the point...I'm not sure how it's not Pullen.  What good does it do to take Pullen off the ball and then put somebody at point who can't set him up? Whats more realistic: Irving creating for Pullen or Pullen creating for Irving?  (or Spradling or McGruder or Russell or Southwell)  Seems like to makes more sense to start Pullen at point until somebody takes it from.  At least your getting the ball into the hands of your best scorer on every posession that way. 




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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2010, 12:51:40 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

Wait 'til he gets the last remaining scholarship.  Should be fun around here.






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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2010, 01:19:15 PM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

Maybe.  When Frank starts throwing OJ out there to teach lessons next year fans will pile on him as well though.

Wait 'til he gets the last remaining scholarship.  Should be fun around here.






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I may be okay with this if it guaranteed us his brother.  Don't think it would have much of a bearing though.

Early watch list for most hated player on the team:

1. Starting PG (for not being Clemente)
2. OJ (for being on the court)
3. Sutton (for his lack of development)
4. Asprilla (for being a tubber)

Samuels is the darkhorse and of course anyone else could steal the title if they regress.

Slightly off topic:  Love that our opponents hate Kelly.  Makes me like him even more.
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Re: '10-'11 Starters
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2010, 03:11:28 AM »
Sounds like Sutton has an early lead in the race to replace Lu or Energy as many fans' least-fav.   :frown:

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