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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2013, 01:04:52 PM »
Not to be a Nancy Neg, but there's no way we win tonight.

I mean seriously, there is really nothing more predictable in sports than K-State going into Allen Fieldhouse and pissing and shitting themselves in front of everyone.  It's what we do and it has happened almost without exception for the last 25 years.

So here's the script, we will come out tight and nervous, start off insanely bad from the field, let KU begin the game on an 18-4 run, panic, JO will make a lot of weird faces, allow the crowd to take over, wonder aloud why this is happening again, then hope we can cut it to single digits before half time.  Ultimately our star players will finish well below their season averages and some guy like Martavious Irving will have a career night and we'll lose by about 12 points.

That is all.   :gocho:

you forgot the part where KU is in the bonus 8 minutes into the game, our best player is on the bench in foul trouble, and KU ends the game shooting 20 more free throws than us. 

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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2013, 01:16:04 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2013, 01:28:21 PM »
Another thing to think about.  Our bigs don't have range, allowing Withey to camp under the bucket.

Withey has had matchup problems when rangier forwards pulled him away from the basket, freeing up the paint.  Withey had to respect the range of ISU's Ejim and Niang, OSU's Cobbins and Nash, and OU's Osby.  When he didn't close out, these guys were able to knock down 8-10 ft. mid-rangers.  Ejim, Niang, and Osby had 19, 13, and 17 pts. respectively.  A good chunk of those were not scored at the rim.  Look at KU's losses and the number of points scored by Forwards and Centers.  Withey, Young, Trailer, etc. are probably the worst collection of bigs that KU has had in the last 20 years. 

But, in our loss to KU, we had no post production.  We had 9 points from all of our bigs combined.  Gip (5), JO (4), everybody else (0). 

   

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2013, 01:29:56 PM »
Another thing to think about.  Our bigs don't have range, allowing Withey to camp under the bucket.

Withey has had matchup problems when rangier forwards pulled him away from the basket, freeing up the paint.  Withey had to respect the range of ISU's Ejim and Niang, OSU's Cobbins and Nash, and OU's Osby.  When he didn't close out, these guys were able to knock down 8-10 ft. mid-rangers.  Ejim, Niang, and Osby had 19, 13, and 17 pts. respectively.  A good chunk of those were not scored at the rim.  Look at KU's losses and the number of points scored by Forwards and Centers.  Withey, Young, Trailer, etc. are probably the worst collection of bigs that KU has had in the last 20 years. 

But, in our loss to KU, we had no post production.  We had 9 points from all of our bigs combined.  Gip (5), JO (4), everybody else (0). 

   
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2013, 01:32:15 PM »
Another thing to think about.  Our bigs don't have range, allowing Withey to camp under the bucket.

Withey has had matchup problems when rangier forwards pulled him away from the basket, freeing up the paint.  Withey had to respect the range of ISU's Ejim and Niang, OSU's Cobbins and Nash, and OU's Osby.  When he didn't close out, these guys were able to knock down 8-10 ft. mid-rangers.  Ejim, Niang, and Osby had 19, 13, and 17 pts. respectively.  A good chunk of those were not scored at the rim.  Look at KU's losses and the number of points scored by Forwards and Centers.  Withey, Young, Trailer, etc. are probably the worst collection of bigs that KU has had in the last 20 years. 

But, in our loss to KU, we had no post production.  We had 9 points from all of our bigs combined.  Gip (5), JO (4), everybody else (0). 

If they truly don't bring Withey out on Gip or JO, then those guys have to ball screen a bunch. Forces KU to make a decision on Withey hedging and how they will play the ball screens (over or under) with the on-ball defender. We have done that plenty this year with Angel.

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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2013, 01:32:58 PM »
I'm OK with JO shooting 8-10 footers in rhythm.
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2013, 01:49:02 PM »
I'm OK with JO shooting 8-10 footers in rhythm.

He's been very average from that range.

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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2013, 06:26:47 PM »
http://www.beyondthebets.com/kansas-state-kansas-point-spread-betting-preview-2013/

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Welp, wasn't going to do the win-win bet because the spread is too large but this changes my mind.  Betting on the Hawk's tonight guys....    :tsc:
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever