Fire oscar

[kougar24]

Donations are tricky, too.  Maybe rich, old white guys don't like donating when there's a foul mouthed latino in charge.

Agreed that it's not easy to measure, but we got enough for the BTF.

[chum1]

I mean, I don't know what kind of revenue bball generates, but if it's a difference between 1.5 million and 2 million, maybe the smarter thing to do is focus on the football cash cow instead.

[Barry McCockner]

There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

[Barry McCockner]

If the kind of basketball you saw tonight got him hired, why would it get him fired?  Didn't Currie watch any Illinois games last year?

No, I'm sure he didn't.  I'm not convinced he even knew who oscar Weber was until Gene Keady threw out his name.

[CNS]

I think the tucks are united in fb matters but have an internal split on bb.  I am surprised often in talking to some old ksu'ers in that they miss winning in bb and want that back. Many of the same guys are fans of frank and relate him to a bobby knight in being mean and stuff. Some of them see that as old school and eat it up.



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[Teddy_Westside]

There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

Still, if people had a "give him a chance" mentality, that means that they didn't like the hire either.  It just means they are withholding judgement for now.

[Barry McCockner]

There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

Still, if people had a "give him a chance" mentality, that means that they didn't like the hire either.  It just means they are withholding judgement for now.

You can't be #burnitdown and #givehimachance.  They are mutually exclusive.

[Teddy_Westside]

There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

Still, if people had a "give him a chance" mentality, that means that they didn't like the hire either.  It just means they are withholding judgement for now.

You can't be #burnitdown and #givehimachance.  They are mutually exclusive.

I didn't say they weren't.  Just saying that because someone wasn't #burnitdown doesn't mean they supported or even liked the hire.

[peetMOSS13]

we just hired him, bro

Yes you did -

I hope all you Kansas St. fans enjoy having oscar "bubbles" Weber.  Now you'll get a taste of what all Illini fans have had to put up with - enjoy!

[michigancat]

I mean, I don't know what kind of revenue bball generates, but if it's a difference between 1.5 million and 2 million, maybe the smarter thing to do is focus on the football cash cow instead.

Basketball brought in $9.1 million of revenue and spent about $4.5.

At the end of Wooly's tenure, we were bringing in around $2.5 million, IIRC.


So yeah, ignoring basketball seems like a great plan for a bean counter.

[chum1]

DAX!

[wes mantooth]

eff you Gene Keady

[CNS]

eff you Gene Keady

New board name

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[MakeItRain]

Have we not already seen a drop from the last few years crappy noncons?

I like Catzacker's two year plan but I am not sure how we make it happen.

Attendance is down but the tickets are sold. Need that to change to have a chance

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ticket sales are unquestionably down

[EMAWmeister]

There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

Still, if people had a "give him a chance" mentality, that means that they didn't like the hire either.  It just means they are withholding judgement for now.

You can't be #burnitdown and #givehimachance.  They are mutually exclusive.

I was willing to give him a chance, but after last night, I'm ready to burn this [redacted] to the ground.

[sys]

ticket sales are unquestionably down.

but not much.  seems like they went from sellouts to having around 500-1000 unsold this year.  probably not high dollar seats, and probably not a big deal.  next year's sales will be interesting.

[MakeItRain]

ticket sales are unquestionably down.

but not much.  seems like they went from sellouts to having around 500-1000 unsold this year.  probably not high dollar seats, and probably not a big deal.  next year's sales will be interesting.

There's no real way to tell, frankly I don't trust the reported attendance, but I would be shocked if the actual tickets sold were only 500-1000.  I say that because of the ticket packages they pitched before the season started.  Those packages really slashed the value of the tickets, if it were only 750 I'd like to think they wouldn't have panicked & realized they would have closed that gap with football ending & a solid non con

As it turned out they didn't devalue the tickets enough.

[Panjandrum]

I kind of feel guilty.  I think the #Gottlieb4KSU movement scared Currie into acting too quickly.  If we hadn't have done that, would we have ended up with oscar?  Could we have gotten Tad Boyle?

I don't know.  I don't want to openly root for the guy to lose his job, but these first several games have been so much of a dumpster fire that I don't see how this ends well.

[puniraptor]

I don't know. Seems like he had weber picked out before we knew frank was gone.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I don't know. Seems like he had weber picked out before we knew frank was gone.

i think he had weber picked out before even frank knew he was gone.

[Trim]

I don't know. Seems like he had weber picked out before we knew frank was gone.

i think he had weber picked out before even frank knew he was gone.

Yep.

[kougar24]

I don't know. Seems like he had weber picked out before we knew frank was gone.

i think he had weber picked out before even frank knew he was gone.

Yep

[puniraptor]

Yep.

[bones129]

Going to the game Tuesday night. My expectations are not high. 

[0.42]

I kind of feel guilty.  I think the #Gottlieb4KSU movement scared Currie into acting too quickly.  If we hadn't have done that, would we have ended up with oscar?  Could we have gotten Tad Boyle?

I don't know.  I don't want to openly root for the guy to lose his job, but these first several games have been so much of a dumpster fire that I don't see how this ends well.

If Currie was so scared of the #Gottleib4KSU movement that it clouded his judgment on making the best hire possible then he has no business running an athletic department at the Division 1 level. And I say this as someone who got on the Gottleib bandwagon fairly early on.