Futures

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Per Vegas, oscar's team is twice as likely to win a NC next season and HCBS 

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures/

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

[mocat]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

[ben ji]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

2011 Connecticut bball

[jmlynch1]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

forealz?

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

64 CBB teams make the postseason and are allowed a shot at winning a national championship. In football, a K-State team could conceivably win all of their games and still not get a shot at a national championship.

[mocat]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

64 CBB teams make the postseason and are allowed a shot at winning a national championship. In football, a K-State team could conceivably win all of their games and still not get a shot at a national championship.

If K-State wins all their games they will have won a national championship.
So I guess if you were talking about a mid-major team, well yeah it's much easier for Butler to win a NC in Bball, than say Fresno State to win in football.
I just think it's more difficult to put yourself in a good seed, and then beat 6 consecutive good teams (with probably 2-3 opponents in the top 10), than it is to run the table on your conference and win 1 game with a month to do nothing but prepare for it.
Room for error is greater in the basketball reg. season, I will give you that.

[puniraptor]

If there were also an undefeated big10 powerhouse and an undefeated sec powerhouse, would we be picked for the official title game?

a legacy of disrespect conditions me to say no.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

True. We may have used up our only football shot in '98, but we'll have lots more chances in BBall.

[mocat]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

True. We may have used up our only football shot in '98, but we'll have lots more chances in BBall.

In our greatest FB season ever, we had to piss down our legs and lose in 2OT to get out of the NC shot.
In our greatest BB season ever (please do not include the 1950's when the tourney was much much smaller), we went 3-1 vs North Texas, BYU, Xavier, and Butler, when we needed to go 6-0 vs those teams PLUS Michigan State and Duke.

[schreds21]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

True. We may have used up our only football shot in '98, but we'll have lots more chances in BBall.

In our greatest FB season ever, we had to piss down our legs and lose in 2OT to get out of the NC shot, a shot we never would have had if UCLA hadn't lost.
In our greatest BB season ever (please do not include the 1950's when the tourney was much much smaller), we went 3-1 vs North Texas, BYU, Xavier, and Butler, when we needed to go 6-0 vs those teams PLUS Michigan State and Duke.

FYP

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's much easier to win a NC in basketball than football, so that sounds about right.

Link?

64 CBB teams make the postseason and are allowed a shot at winning a national championship. In football, a K-State team could conceivably win all of their games and still not get a shot at a national championship.

If K-State wins all their games they will have won a national championship.
So I guess if you were talking about a mid-major team, well yeah it's much easier for Butler to win a NC in Bball, than say Fresno State to win in football.
I just think it's more difficult to put yourself in a good seed, and then beat 6 consecutive good teams (with probably 2-3 opponents in the top 10), than it is to run the table on your conference and win 1 game with a month to do nothing but prepare for it.
Room for error is greater in the basketball reg. season, I will give you that.

It's nice to just assume that if we were to go undefeated in football, we would get a chance to play in the NC game, but the reality is that a program like Kansas State will always need help to get there. If K-State, USC, and Alabama all go undefeated next season, K-State is not playing for the championship. A one loss K-State is never playing for the championship under nearly any circumstance.

Basketball allows its championship to be determined on the court, and the high probability of upsets in the tournament allows for the possibility that a solid team can win the NC without ever having to play the best team in the country.

Football would need a 16 team playoff to make winning a championship as easy as basketball.

[mocat]

I think the best team always wins the BBall tournament.
I do not think the best team always plays in the FB NC game, let alone wins it.

['taterblast]

I think the best team always wins the BBall tournament.
I do not think the best team always plays in the FB NC game, let alone wins it.

i think you are wrong

[jmlynch1]

I think the best team always wins the BBall tournament.
I do not think the best team always plays in the FB NC game, let alone wins it.

i think you are wrong

Me too, but everybody is entitled to their opinion no matter how incorrect.

[Pendergast]

Indiana?   

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

This thread isn't going where I wanted it to go.

[theRealWallyJudge]

I don't know what you guys are arguing about, we are going to win them both so quit your bitchin.