Author Topic: What will it take to win the conference? (Read 2586 times)

Fuktard · « **on:** January 03, 2012, 09:31:07 AM »

MU color guy on 810 got me to thinking. He said he thought MU would win the Big 12 and then said he thought they would go 12-6. If 12 wins wins the conference, there's going to be some very shitty records/seeds going into the dance (and there will likely be some teams watching from home).

ben ji · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:32:02 AM »

If they win the conference at 12-6 katz will end up in our comfortable 4th place at 10-8.

CNS · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:32:18 AM »

as long as we at least split with MU and KU, we should be fine.

Fuktard · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:35:49 AM »

I would also like to go on record as saying that I think MU will get exposed in the Big 12, especially later in the year as their thin roster wears down. Just my .02.

CNS · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:43:40 AM »

Quote from: Fuktard on January 03, 2012, 09:35:49 AM

I would also like to go on record as saying that I think MU will get exposed in the Big 12, especially later in the year as their thin roster wears down. Just my .02.

I think it would have to be an injury rather than a wear down issue. Those guys are used to playing at a grueling level.

As far as getting exposed goes, I think Baylor is a dece candidate. Not that I don't think they are good...

Panjandrum · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:58:39 AM »

That seems really low. I think the first to thirteen wins, and 14-4 will be the champ's record.

8manpick · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:06:30 AM »

Honestly I think we'll have someone at 15-3. I think whoever wins it wins 4 or 5 against KU, MU, Baylor, and us, then slips up once or twice against UT and OU. I think the bottom part of the league is pretty bad this year, and don't see the conference champ losing to OSU, TT, aTm or Flood U.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:09:50 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on January 03, 2012, 10:06:30 AM

Honestly I think we'll have someone at 15-3. I think whoever wins it wins 4 or 5 against KU, MU, Baylor, and us, then slips up once or twice against UT and OU. I think the bottom part of the league is pretty bad this year, and don't see the conference champ losing to OSU, TT, aTm or Flood U.

TT is bad, but I'd say aTm, OSU and/or ISU will likely beat one of the Top 3/4 teams in the league sometime. All have enough talent to do it at home. aTm and OSU also both play pretty good defense.

8manpick · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:16:52 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 03, 2012, 10:09:50 AM

Quote from: 8manpick on January 03, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Honestly I think we'll have someone at 15-3. I think whoever wins it wins 4 or 5 against KU, MU, Baylor, and us, then slips up once or twice against UT and OU. I think the bottom part of the league is pretty bad this year, and don't see the conference champ losing to OSU, TT, aTm or Flood U.

TT is bad, but I'd say aTm, OSU and/or ISU will likely beat one of the Top 3/4 teams in the league sometime. All have enough talent to do it at home. aTm and OSU also both play pretty good defense.

Agreed, but I think the conference champ will make it through unscathed... I'd be shocked at anything less than a 14-4 conference champ.

CNS · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:23:42 AM »

14-4 is reasonable. Allows for a loss to two of the big 3(us, ku, mu) and one to Baylor or Tex.

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kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:49:09 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on January 03, 2012, 10:16:52 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 03, 2012, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: 8manpick on January 03, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Honestly I think we'll have someone at 15-3. I think whoever wins it wins 4 or 5 against KU, MU, Baylor, and us, then slips up once or twice against UT and OU. I think the bottom part of the league is pretty bad this year, and don't see the conference champ losing to OSU, TT, aTm or Flood U.

TT is bad, but I'd say aTm, OSU and/or ISU will likely beat one of the Top 3/4 teams in the league sometime. All have enough talent to do it at home. aTm and OSU also both play pretty good defense.

Agreed, but I think the conference champ will make it through unscathed... I'd be shocked at anything less than a 14-4 conference champ.

I agree that 14-4 will probably do it. Maybe 15-3. My issue with Baylor and Missouri is that neither has proven they are better than a .500 road team in the Big 12. Granted, MU has a new coach and this year could be different, but they both still have to prove they can be a 7-2 or 6-3 type road team in the league. It will be tough. And I'm not sold KU can do better than that this year either. (or us)

CNS · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:57:53 AM »

Seth Davis:

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Mizzou leads US in field goal percentage. Do you realize how hard that is for a guard oriented team to do? Can they keep it up?

AbeFroman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:02:41 AM »

I see 15-3 or 14-4. If KSU, MU, Baylor, and ku end up beating up on each other 13-5 might win it. That is usually what the Big East's top teams end up with and they have some scrubs like Depaul and Rutgers that are as bad as Tech and A&M.

mocat · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:07:10 AM »

Quote from: AbeFroman on January 03, 2012, 11:02:41 AM

I see 15-3 or 14-4. If KSU, MU, Baylor, and ku end up beating up on each other 13-5 might win it. That is usually what the Big East's top teams end up with and they have some scrubs like Depaul and Rutgers that are as bad as Tech and A&M.

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pissclams · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:15:54 AM »

12-6 or 13-5 is most probable. I'd guess 12-6.

ksu101 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:35:37 AM »

18-0 or bust.

PowercatPat · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:39:04 AM »

I really don't see the champ losing 6 conference games. I think KU will win the Big 12 and I don't see 6 losses on their schedule.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:41:38 PM »

Misery with basically ZERO front court depth now.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/story/2012-01-03/missouri-kadeem-green-transfer/52360722/1

steve dave · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:43:22 PM »

13-5 seems about right

pissclams · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:44:48 PM »

Quote from: PowercatPat on January 03, 2012, 11:39:04 AM

I really don't see the champ losing 6 conference games. I think KU will win the Big 12 and I don't see 6 losses on their schedule.

ku won twice at 13-3, the round robin will make wins harder to come by and the league is diluted. 13-5/12-6.

they start a former walk on and have no depth.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2012, 04:21:45 PM »

Quote from: PowercatPat on January 03, 2012, 11:39:04 AM

I really don't see the champ losing 6 conference games. I think KU will win the Big 12 and I don't see 6 losses on their schedule.

I can see MU beating KU twice.

Thomas Robinson is KU's only inside presence. And MU's guards are better.

wetwillie · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2012, 05:51:23 PM »

Jamar has to have raging hard on thinking about the double fouls he is going to get against Mizzou's depleted front line this weekend.

PowercatPat · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:01:56 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on January 03, 2012, 04:21:45 PM

Quote from: PowercatPat on January 03, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
I really don't see the champ losing 6 conference games. I think KU will win the Big 12 and I don't see 6 losses on their schedule.

I can see MU beating KU twice.

Thomas Robinson is KU's only inside presence. And MU's guards are better.

No way MU wins in Lawrence. This is the last time that MU will play in Lawrence in probably a long time, and it's MU so KU will likely bring their "A".