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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2011, 01:48:24 AM »
i bring more joy to that board than you will ever.

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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2011, 02:01:25 AM »
i bring more joy to that board than you will ever.

you're good at what you do, you just aren't a bball poster.



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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2011, 11:27:11 AM »
One more thing:  while our Cats have been the recipients of some luck this year, they've been in position to benefit because of Snyder's Moneyball approach:  he's found undervalued assets and used them to get win after win. 
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good teams put themselves in position to have those "bounces" help you win shitty teams catch breaks from time to time, good teams capitalize on them

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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2011, 12:26:04 PM »
One more thing:  while our Cats have been the recipients of some luck this year, they've been in position to benefit because of Snyder's Moneyball approach:  he's found undervalued assets and used them to get win after win. 
to add to this

good teams put themselves in position to have those "bounces" help you win shitty teams catch breaks from time to time, good teams capitalize on them

Actually, really good teams win most games by a lot (and don't put themselves in a position to lose). KSU has benefited from a bit of smoke and mirrors this year, but the smoke smells amazing and makes us all high (in a good way) and we look amazing in the mirror. Credit goes to Snyder for putting us in a position to win every game (but one). It's really been an amazing coaching job by Snyder even if we lose a few of those close ones.

But to deny that even a little bit of luck was involved to get to 9-2 is kind of foolish.

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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2011, 12:37:35 PM »
One more thing:  while our Cats have been the recipients of some luck this year, they've been in position to benefit because of Snyder's Moneyball approach:  he's found undervalued assets and used them to get win after win. 
to add to this

good teams put themselves in position to have those "bounces" help you win shitty teams catch breaks from time to time, good teams capitalize on them

Actually, really good teams win most games by a lot (and don't put themselves in a position to lose). KSU has benefited from a bit of smoke and mirrors this year, but the smoke smells amazing and makes us all high (in a good way) and we look amazing in the mirror. Credit goes to Snyder for putting us in a position to win every game (but one). It's really been an amazing coaching job by Snyder even if we lose a few of those close ones.

But to deny that even a little bit of luck was involved to get to 9-2 is kind of foolish.

There's no luck involved.  This is clearly Kleins religious zeal summoning all the powers of the Holiest of Holys to smite the teams that we play just enough that we can squeak by.  Old Ballz would be 2-9 without the miracles provided by Klein and his large contingent of religious zealots, praying us to victory.
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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2011, 01:17:31 PM »
"Luck counts, too." — Charles Bukowski

Best luck we got last night was the call on the fumbled punt. At least a 10-point, perhaps 14-point swing. Winners are lucky, re: Bayor and the deflected TD pass.

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Re: what if kstate fball loses to texas and then iowa state?
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2011, 02:06:45 PM »
One more thing:  while our Cats have been the recipients of some luck this year, they've been in position to benefit because of Snyder's Moneyball approach:  he's found undervalued assets and used them to get win after win. 

Yes. It's impossible to win by luck when you are down by multiple scores. Snyder deserves coach of the year for this season, and it's really starting to look like 2004 and 2005 were astronomical flukes.

A bit, but they were also products of bad recruiting/balancing classes. A case in point was that list from 2002 of 4/5 stars that someone posted last week. All 10 of those guys were JUCOs and only 1 of them became All Big 12 1st/2nd team. Two more were HM. But overall Snyder rolled the dice with a JUCO heavy class and it didn't pay off. If anything that may have been the biggest lesson he learned. I can see why he did it because the 96 class was similar, but it paid off with contributors, but most importantly Michael Bishop. Otherwise the 94-03 run was built on mixing in impact JUCOs with mostly what would now be 3-star kids from Texas, Florida, and Kansas that were developed. Also a few early impact HS kids mixed in. That seems to be what he's trying to do now, but with a slightly different strategy of offering more guys earlier than he did back then.