As we trashed our football team all season it comes to mind how many times people would say " at least we have basketball," or about us being a basketball school, blah de da de da, there was so much purple kool aid being passed around that everyone failed to see the truth which was what we actually lost in the off season was a huge loss, we lost guys who hated losing, we lost alot of anger, and I think Martin did see that and is what he meant by leadership. Its the same thing as what happened to our football team, we started recruiting kids who were good kids, who did what they had to each day. Martin has been some what hand cuffed because the shirt tucks don't want him to embarrass the university on national TV. Frank needs to quit pleasing people and coach his style. The only time any of our team whether football or basketball have been any good is when we've played with a chip on our shoulder basically when we are not respected. That is who we are, and who we will always be. We are never going to get any true respect from the media, so basically we have to force the media to respect us. I believe Frank fell into that trap, and realized it to late because I think alot of these guys walked on the court thinking " were ranked 3rd" bow over so we can buttfuck you, and they look at us and say eff you, your just kstate. No matter how hyped our fan base and teams get, its until all of us realize that, we will never win at anything but debate or livestock judging. We have always got to play angry or with a chip on our shoulder no matter. Take the 03 football team for example, we were all told that there was no way that we could beat the greatest football team to ever be assembled, we did because it was a I'll show you mother rough rider moments but then when the press gave us a little attention we pissed down our legs and crap our pants against Ohio state. We have To play each and every game like we have something to prove because folks bottom line....WE ARE KSTATE! EMAW IS A RIGHT, AND NOT A PRIVILEGE AND IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SHOVE DOWN PEOPLE'S THROATS, AND BE LIKE THORN...