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McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.

I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.

Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:13:46 AM »
Well, that chart says oscar already matched Asbury's 2 10 game losing streaks last year, so matching them again this year wouldn't mean much. He needs at least 11 to beat his own personal record at K-State.

Edit: Nevermind, I misread your post. He's trying to do it twice just like Asbury did. Gotcha.

we need to set our sights on the full 14 (15 to beat).

Emphatically ending "The Streak" with "The Streak". I like it.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: February 03, 2021, 10:29:28 AM »
Let's talk losing streaks for K-State basketball.



oscar is trying to match EC Curtis with the worst losing streak in K-State history, though that one did bridge 2 seasons. In 1922 Curtis' Wildcats lost 9 straight, won a game, then lost 5 straight to end the season before starting the 1923 season with another 9 game losing streak. The media guide says 15, but the count is 14 by the schedules. Regardless, oscar is in rare territory here and also trying to match Asbury's 2 losing streaks of 10 games in 1997 and 11 in 2000.

I haven't done the research, but I'm pretty sure losing 4 straight conference games by 20+ each and a combined 119 is a record of some sort too.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: February 02, 2021, 08:01:03 AM »
This is another really stupid conversation. He's 3rd in program history in wins, 6th in winning percentage, 1 of 6 with a conference championship, and 1 of 7 to be named conference coach of the year.

He and Frank are undoubtedly K-State Hall of Famers.

I don't know why some of you insist on acting like this dude's accomplishments doesn't mean anything. I mean I get it from @EMAWzifried, he's been watching K-State basketball since the Korean War. However, the rest of you dudes have been watching this program since essentially Dana Altman at the latest, we have all watched more bad basketball than good. KU football fans hold Charlie Weiss in higher regard than y'all do with oscar.

I promise that Gene isn't going to keep the dude if we're honest about his legacy on a message board.


We suck now at a historical level, but thanks for this post MIR.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: January 26, 2021, 04:48:02 PM »
It's good to know KSO isn't the only place oscar discussions devolve to these talking points.

Regardless, if oscar could just manage a roster at all between peak seasons, the roller coaster wouldn't be so darn dramatic. I'm sure plenty of coaches have similar cycles, but the correlation between experience, continuity on the roster, and success is pretty clear. This includes oscar's 08-12 Illinois teams, as far back as kenpom's experience/continuity rankings go.


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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: January 21, 2021, 01:51:43 PM »
What's the buyout?

I believe it is $2 mil, but I'm not sure if that is after April 30th or not.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: January 21, 2021, 10:14:09 AM »
You're telling a story with the stats you're providing here and on twitter, but I want you to explicitly say it.

The numbers seem pretty clear. I'm not ready to go all Fitz quite yet. :)

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« on: January 20, 2021, 03:18:28 PM »
I know there is plenty of oscar ammo at this point, but here are the worst 2 years stretches for K-State basketball since joining their first "major" conference (the Big 6) in 1929.



If the season finishes according to kenpom projections, it will end up the 2nd worst 2 year stretch both overall and in conference play.

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We can't defend anyone. Texas did what they wanted. I can get poor offense from a oscar team, but this team can't defend and I don't see them getting much better.

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totally forgot we used to have a guy on our team named Carlbe :lol:

Remember, we also had a guy that eventually went by Kanbeei Karlson but has since dropped that. Now he's just the Rapping Realtor.


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I think I can say with a high amount of confidence that this will likely be the worst season since 1945-46... the next year is when the Streak started.

45-46 was also the last time K-State lost to a MIAA school (Washburn).

And we canned Knorr's ASS.

Yep, but Knorr was no Frank Root.

But we gave Root the boot

Turn oscar Loose.

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I think I can say with a high amount of confidence that this will likely be the worst season since 1945-46... the next year is when the Streak started.

45-46 was also the last time K-State lost to a MIAA school (Washburn).

And we canned Knorr's ASS.

Yep, but Knorr was no Frank Root.

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I think I can say with a high amount of confidence that this will likely be the worst season since 1945-46... the next year is when the Streak started.

45-46 was also the last time K-State lost to a MIAA school (Washburn).

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Hi fan! Those 90's and early aughts offenses :Yuck:

This year's adjusted D seems like a liar, I don't think it could be worse

The TOR :ROFL:

My kenpom expired on Monday, I was going to renew, but I was like, nah I'm going to take this year off, I don't think I'll be making a habit of checking our numbers often this year.

Yeah, I have no idea how kenpom has our adjusted D so high. We've allowed 1.24, 1.15, 0.95, 1.08, and 1.11 PPP in 5 games. Total raw PPP allowed 1.11 for the year, but the adjust rate is 0.97. I'm assuming a big part is that FHSU stats count for the raw number, but not the adjusted b/c they are D2 and he doesn't count D2 into his ranking.

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How about some stats?

kenpom era national rankings.







Offense and defense in the 3PT era.




And this is with playing 1 team ranked in the kenpom top 60 so far. We have 14 more games against kenpom top 60 teams and 10 against top 10 teams.



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Rick Pitino for $2.5 mil a year. (I'm not making this up)

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6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.

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fwiw Mean Gene was with him at NDSU 01-04 so they might be buds

I don't think the connection can hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fxibMJ8Ueo&t=122s

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What's up guys?

And the answer is yes.

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: RIP Metalhead
« on: December 04, 2020, 10:11:18 PM »
What awful news. Sorry for all that knew him well and for his family.

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I'll just say it's been rough and sad at KSO lately with what is going on. DY is doing his best to keep things going for the time being, but I don't know what the future holds. gE is still a great place.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: NonKSU-specific stuff
« on: December 12, 2019, 01:31:27 PM »
Brad must read this board.

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