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A lot is out there on the new name for Bramlage Coliseum.  This is your source for the real history of The Octagon of Doom.

As an introduction, one of our elite posters, pissclams, summed up the history well...

I love the fact that no one outside of ESPN actually gets it.  Awesome.

We weren't winning games, there was no doom.  Our home court was more sterile than an operating room.  Huggins was screaming at us to develop attitude, and to create an atmosphere that was worthy of how hard our team played on the court.  We took it to heart and went as far with it as we could, the Octagon of Doom was born- long before the ferocity and atmosphere was what it is today.  A true "build it and they will come" success story.

In many ways the name represents what college traditions are all about.  This was not someone's marketing campaign, nor was it an institution trying to reinvent or rebrand one of its arenas.  This was a fan-based, grassroots effort, born from hardcore fans that had endured over a decade of bad basketball from a once proud basketball program.  For many of us, years of watching bad basketball among crowds of 4 to 5 thousand fans is what Bramlage Coliseum had become.  Sure, it might have had a nice first couple of years, but as poor play became the norm, full crowds only showed for the Kansas game, with 1/3 or more of those being Jayhawk fans, or fleeting successful stretches that were soon crushed with another dismal loss.  

Then came the hiring of Bob Huggins and a spark was lit among the fan-base, but Wildcat fans were still searching for an identity.  It began with a successful, but not great season in Huggins’ only year at K-State, and during that year a group of fans began discussing a new identity for Bramlage, a place that was enjoying regular full crowds for the first time in years.

It was in This post that I first brought up the name.  It had a campiness to it from the start.  Then on January 18th, 2007 I put together this Photoshop to represent the initial idea; at least in part seriously hoping that a new identity of winning and atmosphere was coming.



Soon, the basketball board was renamed “The Octagon of Doom”.  The next season, as the Frank Martin era begin, K-State fans experienced talent they hadn’t seen in years with Michael Beasley and Bill Walker, students who knew of the name from the board started bringing signs.  Posters like chuckhasawillie, doom, and Dcwildcat were a few of these select few.  And while the Cats enjoyed a solid season leading to their first NCAA win in years, nobody really noticed the new name for Bramlage coming from a select group of diehard K-State fans.  Another solid season leading to an NIT appearance passed and still few knew what The Octagon of Doom was all about.  The identity was only magnified by the tough, physical teams that Coach Martin was putting on the floor.  During this season several elite fans were able to purchase the first OOD t-shirts, hoodies, and sweatshirts that I designed and sold on cafepress.com.  The movement was growing, but it was a slow growth.

Original OOD shirts:



Then the current season started.  Wildcat basketball soon reached new heights, enjoying one of the best nonconference starts in the history of the program.  With that came excitement and appearances in the rankings that surpassed even the success from a few seasons earlier with the talented Beasley and Walker.  But it was a meeting on January 12th that led to the Octagon of Doom going from the identity being known to a diehard group of K-State fans, to a name that would become a national identity in a matter of weeks.  Another elite poster, ChiCat, happened to see ESPN radio personality and color commentator Doug Gottlieb at a local restaurant before the ESPN 2 broadcast of the Texas A&M game.  As Gottlieb was leaving the name was mentioned and after asking if that was really what fans were calling it, Gottlieb left.  He later mentioned it during the broadcast and the rest is history.

As pissclams said above, ESPN gets it.  K-State has a new identity and this is part of it.  Fans who had endured over a decade of poor basketball have gravitated to this identity, and now it has gone national.  It has come so far that ESPN used it extensively to promote its Gameday appearance in Manhattan for K-State’s nationally televised game against Kansas.



Nationally known writer Dan Wetzel went so far as to say this, “Kansas State rebranding Bramlage Coliseum the ‘Octagon of Doom’ was genius. Best since Michigan Stadium became ‘The Big House’.”  Bramlage has a nationally know identity that K-State fans have embraced.  Despite the loss to Kansas, fans experienced one of the best atmospheres imaginable on January 30th.  Kansas guard Sherron Collins said about the crowd, “This is the toughest atmosphere I've played in, the loudest, in my four years.''  

Now its up to K-State and its fans to keep the new tradition going.  If we want the Octagon of Doom to continue to be what it has become, the fans must continue to show the support that has sold out the rest of the home games for the season.  The team must live up to the billing they have earned from Jay Bilas as “the hardest playing team” in college basketball.  And Coach Martin must be allowed to continue building the type of team that he has created this year, part of that being rewarded with a new contract that pays him what he is worth.  

Welcome to the Octagon of Doom.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: DeArmond...
« on: January 31, 2010, 08:27:11 PM »
I'm all in favor of referring to ClemPull as the "Purple Popguns".

Yeah.  

Interestingly Pullen and Clemente have already led the Cats to be ranked longer and higher than they were in the Popgun era.  Now we'll have to see if they can match the Regional Final Mike and Chuckie led us to (in a smaller NCAA field).


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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / DeArmond...
« on: January 31, 2010, 07:47:12 PM »
Not surprised he's bringing the OOD hate.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU- Gameday
« on: January 29, 2010, 12:18:50 PM »
Fellas, their mocking and hate of the name is a compliment.  

If we didn't matter, "Octagon of Doom" wouldn't matter either.  

Every time this stuff happens just proves more and more we're arriving.  

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Pretty pessimistic for an Osborne Countian.  Just sayin'.

That's how we roll in The Real OC.

True.  And any place that has fine links like Shady Bend can't be all bad. 

Nice. I love the OC references.  :love: And yes, Shady is good... maybe great (would be better with 18).

Ageed.  I love that place, I try to get over there everytime I'm back in the Real OC.  The home of Kevin Saunders only has the sand greens.   :facepalm:

Sorry losers, but p-burg has a much better golf course.

I'm sure its fine, never played it.  I did run on it a couple times though back in the day.

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Pretty pessimistic for an Osborne Countian.  Just sayin'.

That's how we roll in The Real OC.

True.  And any place that has fine links like Shady Bend can't be all bad. 

Nice. I love the OC references.  :love: And yes, Shady is good... maybe great (would be better with 18).

Ageed.  I love that place, I try to get over there everytime I'm back in the Real OC.  The home of Kevin Saunders only has the sand greens.   :facepalm:

28507
Pretty pessimistic for an Osborne Countian.  Just sayin'.

That's how we roll in The Real OC.

True.  And any place that has fine links like Shady Bend can't be all bad. 

28508
Pretty pessimistic for an Osborne Countian.  Just sayin'.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU- Gameday
« on: January 29, 2010, 10:21:48 AM »
http://twitpic.com/10bsg9

Direct link.  Its showing as red x'ed now. 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU- Gameday
« on: January 29, 2010, 10:15:57 AM »
From d_scott's twitter:



 :bball:

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Cole thinks the schedule sets up nicely.  Kitchen things the schedule "is a mess".

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Another bonus, the schedule release has spawned another twitter duel between K-State writers.  Kitchen and Cole go back and forth a bit. 

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That is actually great scheduling work imo. 

Agreed, this is one of the best K-State football schedules I can remember.  Hopefully the team can live up to it.  Really want to go bowling, and I'll happily take Texas or Independence. 

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8 sides, 1 angry mob is up on the Octagon of Doom site.

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Have to have a 'Pak head, no? Seems like a no-brainer.

someone please make this happen  :love:

If we have someone who is willing to follow the instructions above and get this made AND personally ensure that it shows up at Gameday and the game, then I will paypal you the money to do this.

I have the katpak head file with goEMAW.com on the bottom...

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New on the I'm with EMAW site; the EMAWBIN series...



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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: HOLY frackING crap!!!
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:23:17 PM »
Can't believe baylor didn't run a set play for a three point shot at the end. Can't believe it.

It was nice to see a solid defensive plan to take that away. 

when energy is the one guarding the ball, that's all the plan you f'ing need.

True.  But LOL at Drew, it was like Baylor conceded going 1 on 5 on the last play, I think at least 3 different guys guarded him on the play.

And Baylor tried to "K-State" the game the best they could, 30+ FTs, beat us on the offensive glass, and we still beat 'em at their place. 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: HOLY frackING crap!!!
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:16:47 PM »
Can't believe baylor didn't run a set play for a three point shot at the end. Can't believe it.

It was nice to see a solid defensive plan to take that away. 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: HOLY frackING crap!!!
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:11:16 PM »
EMAW needed that.  And lol at all the losers that thought Pullen needed to shear the beard. 

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GUYS, I CAN'T AFFORD TO GET SUED. :ohno:

Me neither.  I've already had to up with the Fear the Beard stuff. 

Also, what would it be for, this site isn't even premium.  :dunno:

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: KatPak Items for $$$$$
« on: January 25, 2010, 04:40:51 PM »
Done.  Did you want the katpak head with or without goEMAW.com on it?  The ones up there don't have it on them, just pak head.

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: KatPak Items for $$$$$
« on: January 25, 2010, 03:06:07 PM »

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