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If I had a choice between Dixon and Weber I'd choose Dixon (and it's not particularly close).
Holy crap.
Yes, all three of those schools went winless, but only TCU and Flood Aggie went 0-18. The Big 12 played 16 conference games before 2012. A&M is the only school with two 15+ game Big 12 losing streaks.
Dude has landed a crap ton of 4 stars and has respectfully reeled in a ton of top 150's. Unfortunately, when they don't work out and leave, they also suck elsewhere. It's a gamble every year when you bring in new kids. You love bashing his recruiting efforts, when he's a fine recruiter. If anything, he lacks developing players. If only we had a Justin Williams to fix this team.I think Miguel could be a lynchpin for this team as they develop. He has shown some toughness that oscar teams need to be successful. In a couple of the games where we were getting embarrassed, he got more aggressive and was willing to put his shoulder into a defender and drive.Yeah this is the problem and reflects Oscar's lack of overall program management skills. The big concern should be that if he was that inept or indifferent about recruiting at a level that could sustain a program when he knew he would deal with the consequences, how few shits is he going to give when he knows it won't be his problem when he is enjoying retirement?
I have no problem with the talent on the team. I have a problem with the talent being limited to two out of the four classes for 6 years in a row and not getting corrected.
No wacky, he's either a terrible recruiter, a terrible evaluator, or a terrible developer of talent, or any combination thereof, and that is why we're at where we are right now. You can't be 9 seasons in and have twice the number of transfers as players he's graduated, that's abhorrent. If he gets fired it will be his fault that he has proven that he can't be consistently relied upon to identify, land, and develop players for this program.
He’s a world class talent evaluator. Probably average developer. Way below average recruiter.
Go ahead and lock this thread. FAN has spoken.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1364455007043477504
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I became pretty sure oscar is going to be back last week regardless, so now I'm just going to enjoy it and find the positives. I don't do burn it down, so I'm hopping back on the oscar train (until I'm off again).
I think you both have forgotten why we're in this place to begin with. Then realize that 2021 is likely to be another empty class.
Pack and Bradford are so so good. Miguel and DG3 are absolute dogs. Need like 2 more good players that don’t exist on this roster.
Between Gordon, murphy, and EZ there's a serviceable power forward in there. oscar needs to go get the best shooter available in the juco ranks, and that's probably all we need.
Go ahead and lock this thread. FAN has spoken.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1364455007043477504
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My takeaway is that it's really, really hard to lose 14 in a row. There ar teams like Iowa State, TCU and us in this and others leagues every year. Tip of the cap to the Clones and Huskers, I guess.
First, I think a change is unlikely, but we'll see. I don't think the biggest donor(s) are on board right now for whatever reason.
Second, I do like the young talent, but I do think we need another piece, specifically a combo guard that can really defend. Find a mid major transfer with experience that can bring some more dawg mentality.
Third, my biggest surprise with this year is that oscar didn't lose this team and if anything they've only come together stronger as the season progressed. In January I thought this team would fall apart.
Would AJ Bramah move the needle for next year?
FANw throws amazing shade. I feel like she says some of the things that FAN is too nice to tweet
For some perspective - I have a good friend who's in the administration of a p5 school on the east coast (one with a larger budget than K-State, though not by a huge amount). Due to the pandemic, anyone over $200k got a 20% pay cut, anyone over $100k got a 10% pay cut and anyone under $100k got 15-20 days of furlough during the year. The cuts would have been worse, but they're fortunate to not have as much gameday staff because they play in a municipally-owned b-ball arena. They're in a state where indoor attendance for events is basically zero (they let a handful of super-rich donors in each game). While they believe football revenue will mostly come back in 2021 (attendance $$$, sponsor $$$, etc.), they still believe b-ball revenue will be massively shy of prior years due to lingering issues with the pandemic.
I say all of this because it helps explain the nuances of why Weber very likely could be around another year (and that's on top of all the other K-State specific reasons everyone else has already articulated). I'm not saying I like it, but it's a tough sell from a perception standpoint - both internally and externally.
Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I think the original post was in response to a particular loss. In another sense, going ten Asbury/Wooly years without making the tourament could be considered the "lowest point".
I agree. The macro was much worse back then. This team actually reminds me of wooly's later teams. You can see there is talent on the team with the individual players but there's very little hope that they will see their potential with the current staff. That 2006-07 team had enough talent to be more than a bit team but Huggins only had the one year with them. The 2005, '06, and '07 teams were all good enough to make the tournament, none did because that staff hampered their growth.
Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
How can he match this overall?
I did notice Curtiss' 2-14 season was a conference (MVC) only slate, so oscar does have a great opportunity to eclipse that as well as the absolute destruction of the shared conference futility crown of 1-9 (.100) held jointly by KSU giants Chili Cochrane and Cliff Rock in 42-43 and 43-44 respectively.
oscar's likely 1-16 (.059) conference record -- assuming no makeup games -- would be a standard unlikely ever to be matched.
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Does the Alternative Minimum Points Rule come with statistical guidelines and qualifications on ppg during the season?
Checked KenPom, I think 200 adjO qualifies this as a W, but will it go up?
Look at the replies to this tweet. WTF? What a world where _FAN and I seem like extremists for just acknowledging reality. Crazy how many extreme sunshine pumpers exist out there. I know I have mentioned this before but @kstateman is a plague, he's not only an extreme sunshine pumper, but he's very aggressive in his pumping.
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1359339300953985030
McDermott rumor thread currently on KSO.
I don't buy it, but I'd contend that McDermott would be the absolute best hire Gene could make.
Some people seem to forget the success he's had in the Big East for the last decade and solely focus on his terrible Iowa State years.
apparently ncaa is investigating him tho which means we won't touch him
Does he have another son to help jumpstart it here?
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Yep, someone can't count. I'm sad that we've reached a point where I discovered that media guide error.
