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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: July 02, 2019, 05:43:26 PM »
So, do we generally get all the best recruits at the end, or do we get a bunch of filler recruits that bring our ratings down? It seems like the latter is more likely, but idk.
from what i can tell the few 4-star players that we were recruiting have all pretty much committed elsewhere. So just a general assumption would be it will be hard to move the needle up much without any higher ranked recruits. and i don't see any higher ranked recruits on the lists right now.
i think the best to hope for is to finish up with as many solid 3 stars as we can get.
if they can do that they will still finish near the bottom but not that far away from 3rd in reality.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: July 01, 2019, 04:16:53 PM »
suck it, wyoming (also ku)
this class looks alarmingly similar to a Snyder class. Blue collar kids and those with future potential that other P5 programs are not interested in.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 28, 2019, 04:20:44 PM »
I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU. I have watched 6 complete games and parts of 7 others, so far.

The article from SBNATION makes a reasoned and logical argument that HCCK could take out most of the FBS  --- at NDSU.
At KSU, the success ceiling is much higher.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/7/18170160/north-dakota-state-fbs

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These are four of the six FBS teams to play and lose to NDSU this decade
Recent NDSU “upset” victims that could definitely lose to NDSU again

Iowa
Kansas State
Minnesota
Iowa State
 On the fence

Missouri
Memphis
NC State
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Georgia Southern
Virginia
South Carolina
Troy
Kentucky
Oregon

This is the most middling group here, for me. All of these teams had fine seasons. None is anything near a juggernaut, and most of them lost games to teams you’d generally expect North Dakota State to beat. The only team here that didn’t is Missouri, and the Tigers lost to multiple teams that seem like fringe cases against the Bison.

Would really probably lose to NDSU

Houston
FAU
Arizona State
Pitt
Boston College
Maryland
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Baylor
Ole Miss
Wake Forest
Virginia Tech
Vanderbilt
Arizona
Miami (Ohio)
Eastern Michigan
Middle Tennessee
Southern Miss

There’s some talent and some quality wins within this group, but all of these teams are deeply flawed in some way or another. A few of them have just horrible defenses, and it’s easy to envision the Bison running 45 times for 5.5 yards per carry and controlling the ball for 42 minutes of clock time in a 21-10 win.

maybe he got better OLs at NDSU than he can get at KSU. he arguably had more talent than ksu at ndsu. maybe he can't attract as much talent to ksu

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 26, 2019, 12:19:18 PM »
P5 offers:

2018: 23 players. Illinois (3), Iowa State (2), KU (4), Ole Miss, UVA, Rutgers (2), Syracuse (2), WVU (2), Arizona State, Mizzou, Texas, Texas Tech (3), Louisville (2), Oregon State, Arizona, South Carolina, TCU, Wake Forest, WSU, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, Purdue

2020: 17 players. KU (6), Maryland, Minnesota (2), Rutgers, Iowa State, Arizona, Oregon State, Colorado (2), VA Tech, Wisconsin, Arkansas (3), Illinois, Missouri (2), Nebraska, Oklahoma State, WVU, Syracuse.

Keep in mind, quite a few of the players from 2018 with nicer offer lists have left the team. I think retention a far worse problem than recruiting.
we signed 3 players in 2018 who had offers from Texas? Holy Shi
i can think of one but THREE!!!  no wonder we suck we shouldn't be taking UT recruits

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 25, 2019, 12:36:34 PM »
A lot of new hire coaches are able to excel in recruiting even without the on-field results.  That isn't happening.  I feel expectations are already starting to get lowered for Klieman.
Jesus, Steffy. WTF are you talking about? This is the highest rated class we've had this early in the recruiting season in like 20 years.

Big 12 is still the 4th best P5 conference.  We shouldn't be surprised if we lose prospects to teams from ACC, big 10, and SEC.  I mean Chubba could have stayed home in a great state and play for a school with arguably the prettiest women and best party scene in the U.S.  He chose Louisville (lil' bro to Kentucky) who has a first year head coach and had already received a verbal commitment from another QB recruit.  Big 12 passed on Louisville during conference realignment time.  Chubba understands the ACC is as high as it has ever been in athletics, and an argument could be made that they are surpassing the SEC.  We probably never stood a chance.       
dont agree. The ACC is nothing without Clemson. and i don't think clemson being good is elevating the rest of the league outside of other schools just telling recruits they get to play clemson.
i think the city of manhattan hurts our recruiting a little bit as there are no attractions other than the school. no night life.
i also think other schools have gone to younger coaches who always seem to excel in recruiting.
klieman is a little old compared to these young guns and although i think he's probably going to be a decent coach, i don't think he measures up in a popularity contest to the younger coaches in relating to recruits.
recruits like cocky coaches who talk a big story even if the results on the field don't match. See minnesota. see louisville. see nebraska

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 24, 2019, 09:06:12 PM »
Alex Conn to Nebraska
the juco kid Gamble the #1 OL on their board committed to WVU today. So I believe they got none of their top OLs.
the braun kid is still uncommitted but got a FSU offer the other day. so i'm thinking the OL recruiting needs some introspection

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 24, 2019, 03:48:12 PM »
The impression I’m getting on some of these kids is our coaches (Malone primarily) are trying to get Kansas State back into the minds of the top Texas high schools. Offer and go hard after a bunch of their fringe P5 guys now hoping it opens doors to the bigger cruits in the next few years
wondering same thing. trying to grease the skids a little for a better reception next year and after. problem is its a very risky tactic. You end up with a lot of mediocre fb players for quite some time.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 23, 2019, 01:06:24 PM »
is KU out crootin us?
not really. both ku and ksu will finish near the bottom of the league in recruiting when its all done next feb.
every time i even start to feel good about ksu they miss on one their most important targets. Other than the OT Gamble i don't think there are even any top recruits left that they are recruiting. they all went elsewhere already.
unless one of these QBs changes their mind and comes back to ksu. i think all the QB recruits have decided to go elsewhere

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 23, 2019, 09:09:21 AM »
the supposed top player on our board and legacy kstater at a key position just committed to Okie St.
not sure what there is to like about the OSU defense but i guess ours has sucked too lately.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 22, 2019, 04:45:21 PM »
5 grey stars again :frown:



https://247sports.com/player/malachi-mitchell-46081298/

Well hey, Les offered him so there's that? If there's one thing he can sniff out it's championship level talent!
KU and KSU have very similar recruiting levels right now. a lot of players with offers from both and a lot of players with similar rankings.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 22, 2019, 01:58:10 PM »
I may be crazy, but if KSU lands Dekkers, Stroud or Howard I won’t be worried about Chubba.  I think all four of them are pretty talented.

Dekkers is going to the clones, Stroud to Cal and Howard hates the crap out of us.

You may be right, but both ISU and Cal already have QBs committed... I realize that some kids can’t do the math but hopefully our coaches can explain it.

Louisville just picked up Chubba with a QB already committed.
yeah imagine how much better salesmen the louisville coaches are. they convinced a kid that he was better off being part of a 2 QB class than being the man at kansas state. i think we need to build more cool stuff manhattan to attract young people

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 21, 2019, 10:58:28 AM »
if it sounds too good to be true it usually is. Unless you are Bama, Clemson, or OU fans.
i believe this would be the biggest recruit in a long time?

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: June 17, 2019, 05:07:31 PM »
Seiler must have been told "stop Kstates momentum and steal some of their cruits or you can start printing new resumes"

My guess is he already had a relationship with him before he left. If Seiler stayed we probably would have gotten him.
its crazy how much these kids prioritize relationships. in the end, the vast majority of them will end up liking their coaches and their situation no matter where they go play.
by the end of their first month in any program they will know their new coaches better than any of the coaches that were recruiting them for 2 years.
it also allows the coaches not the recruits to determine where recruits go because the coaches just have to behave the way they think the recruits want them to behave to get recruits. then the coaches can be whoever they want to be after the kids sign. i would direct my kid to mainly use information he gathers on own or from coaches as well as his favorite location to make the decision. and not let what the coaches say be the primary factor

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his tweet would be awesome......if he could actually kinda back it up.  But he is far from a dominate player in this league.
he doesn't do anything really great. just a lot of pretty decent stuff.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Zuber
« on: May 22, 2019, 04:03:04 PM »
Rison and Zuber gone
top 2 WRs
we're looking at a bunch of walk on types left over
probably should hit a juco just for numbers

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 17, 2019, 03:56:31 PM »
He’s listed as an athlete. Beat out a bunch of Big 10 schools for him. Michigan State as well.
if u read the story u would know probably the main reason he picked KSU is they are the only ones who agreed to let him play RB and thats what the kid wanted.
apparently he isn't very fast so everyone else wanted to switch him to defense

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 14, 2019, 07:57:26 AM »
if corcoran picked NEB over OU and Ohio State then there was just some odd reason he wanted to go to neb.
although ISU is rumored to have a great recruiting staff, i'm not sure of any real reasons to pick ISU over KSU. apparently, our coaches just are not impressing the recruits right now as much as others are.
ISU really hasn't accomplished that much with their new coach. not sure what the vision is

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 13, 2019, 02:50:42 PM »
anyone hear any rumors why all the instate OL recruits are going out of state? i would think this KSU offense would be very attractive to OLs especially vs spread offenses.
are these coaches not appealing to recruits? this best year of instate recruits is pretty much down the drain
neb has worse record; worse pipeline to NFL for OLs and a boat load of OLs already on roster and they still beating us for our own kids

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Kansas State Football / Re: Spring Game is Cancelled
« on: April 13, 2019, 11:31:45 AM »
so we have none of our top recruits visiting today? Conn and Corcoran both picked NEB today over KSU

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 12, 2019, 10:25:15 AM »
yeah Frost is gonna bring Nebraska back unfortunately.

It sucks. Nebraska sports are in a pretty elite spot right now for not winning crap in either major sport in for as long as anyone can remember.


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the last 10-20 years has been very enjoyable watching NEB be mediocre. i will always wish bad things for them but if they get better it won't kill me.
i've had my fair share of enjoyment watching them lose lately.
i both jealous of their fans for being so damn loyal and engaged but also glad I'm not them because they've made a kids sport the #1 priority for many of their lives.
for that reason they kinda deserve more losing just to help the fans

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 12, 2019, 09:10:21 AM »
kansas kids act like moving one state over is like moving to london or some crap.
i don't think its getting away from home as much as NEB coaches just outsell other coaches. whatever they are saying is working
Frost beat out OU for Corcoran and NU hasn't won anything in the last 20 yrs

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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: April 11, 2019, 05:17:14 PM »
on the 247 site one recruiting expert just predicted Alex Conn to nebraska.
thats 2 of the 3 elite in state OLs predicted to leave the state to go to the same school up north with a lot less need for OLs.
hope our new coaches can develop some better relationships going into the future

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Not sure what happens with doke but man if him and dedric are gone that leaves them pretty lightfooted in the post.  Their guard play with Dotson and Grimes and Agbaji will be salty AF tho.
i keep reading that KU people think there is a good chance De Sousa might play next year.
they are also considered the leader for top 10 overall player and #1 forward matthew hurt

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He hates recruiting by all accounts so he’s going to need a couple of assistants that are delonte types
as i recall hoiberg feasts off the transfers. so he only needs a few weeks each  year to recruit. seeing how many transfers are playing such a big role on these final 4 teams begs the question how much are the transfers being paid?
they appear to be almost a necessity to win big nowadays
and weber can't get one which tells me they are getting paid

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NU is paying him very well, and his grandfather coached there.
im not familiar with college BB hc salaries. where does Hoibergs new contract with neb sit in comparison to others?
i didn't see many comments about how outrageously big it was

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