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Kansas State Football / Re: Uh oh, it happened again
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:12:29 AM »
Gimme the 11 a.m. road slot and 3 p.m. home slot every time.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Drafting QBs
« on: August 14, 2017, 04:02:12 PM »Staying would almost assuredly cost him draft position as his passing numbers would have come down in the slothfense w/o Jordy and with DT.
I definitely understand why he left when he did and can't really fault him for it. And it's not like one year under Snyder would have added years to his NFL career or anything. It's just something that's crossed my mind a couple times. I guess I forgot how much the offense relied on DT in '09. Outside of Banks, Freeman wouldn't have had many guys to throw to. Unless I'm forgetting someone obvious...
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Kansas State Football / Re: Drafting QBs
« on: August 14, 2017, 03:35:38 PM »
Semi-related: I've wondered before how much Freeman could have benefited from staying for his senior season and spending a year under Snyder. Can't imagine it would have improved his draft stock, but I do wonder if it could have made him a little tougher.
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Kansas State Football / Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« on: August 04, 2017, 08:35:43 AM »
https://twitter.com/caseytayyy/status/893451684487344129
https://twitter.com/KSTATEADGT/status/893463510377779200
Well this is just outstanding. Happy Friday!
https://twitter.com/KSTATEADGT/status/893463510377779200
Well this is just outstanding. Happy Friday!
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Kansas State Football / Re: Wild Wildcats in the NFL
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:30:52 PM »
Never ceases to amaze me that Arthur has struggled to stick (injuries or otherwise) while Emmanuel Lamur has been a starter and sees regular game time. I know they're not really comparable situations, but it's just a testament to how strange the league can be.
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Kansas State Football / Re: ITT We Laugh At Other Pud Teams' Pud Stadiums/Arenas
« on: August 02, 2017, 02:46:32 PM »58
Kansas State Football / Re: Wild Wildcats in the NFL
« on: August 01, 2017, 04:25:25 PM »Leber was already in Minn. when Clary got there.
2002 Atlanta had Weiner, Kelly, Simoneau
Damn dude, great memory. Also, I totally should have remembered Clary and Sproles playing together in SD. Whoops.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Wild Wildcats in the NFL
« on: August 01, 2017, 10:50:10 AM »
Just occurred to me the Vikings defense could have three K-State products on the field at the same time this year. I'd be shocked if we've ever had three players on one NFL team before, but have we ever had two?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Updated roster: notable (we're huge and C-Bas Taylor is dream)
« on: July 26, 2017, 12:07:16 PM »
Fair enough. Really interested to see how this offense stacks up to 2012 or 2014. Even during Snyder 1.0, I struggle to remember having this many weapons in EVERY area...
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Kansas State Football / Re: Updated roster: notable (we're huge and C-Bas Taylor is dream)
« on: July 26, 2017, 11:27:40 AM »If the defense is even serviceable, I think the floor for this team is ten wins. I really believe that. I'm just floored at the amount of offensive talent this team has. I think there are at least five potential draft picks on the offensive side (Barnes, Dimel, Pringle, Risner, Frantz). Hell, I think Dayton Valentine could get drafted in the late rounds if he has a decent pro day. And I'm not even considering guys we haven't seen yet like McCoy and Strickland.
I really want to say 10+ wins should be the "expectation" in the regular season, but I can't shake the idea that I'm being too optimistic. Hope I'm not. This team should be disciplined enough to win games that were narrow losses last year (WV and Okie State). At Texas is gonna be huge. There's no reason we shouldn't be undefeated going into that one, and if we can get out of Austin with a win, I think people outside Manhattan will really start to pay attention. That said, I'm obviously fine flying under the radar as long as we can.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: July 24, 2017, 12:49:13 PM »I hope he's good enough to be here 3 years. If he's good enough to leave early and get drafted, then by all means, let him tear it up for the next 3 years.
No disagreement here. I've just never seen a player directly reference it in his commitment announcement like that. Oh well. Definitely don't have to worry about lack of confidence.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« on: July 24, 2017, 10:34:48 AM »
https://twitter.com/EJThomas_2/status/889230498320482304
3-4 years? Already planning on declaring early?
3-4 years? Already planning on declaring early?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Will Geary
« on: July 21, 2017, 09:44:07 AM »
Not really relevant to anything here, but still cool to see. Hopeful he can put what sounds like a pretty chaotic offseason behind him and tear it up this fall.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Miracle in Manhattan Documentary
« on: July 19, 2017, 02:13:23 PM »Wait a minute. You can't purchase it? You have to rent it for 8 dollars?
You can purchase it at a later date, but as of now the only way to watch is via renting.
You can pre-order the DVD through the Facebook page. The release date is TBD, but I've seen him tell at least one person he wants to have them shipped before the start of the season.
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Kansas State Football / Re: spring practice 17 tidbits, nuggets, and hearsay
« on: July 19, 2017, 11:47:44 AM »67
Kansas State Football / Re: Jesse Ertz (Lack of)Medical Redshirt Thread
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:22:53 AM »@steffy
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sorry, steffy is kind of the resident expert on these matters
Ha, oh. I thought you were calling me steffy. I'll figure this board out one of these days.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Jesse Ertz (Lack of)Medical Redshirt Thread
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:05:57 AM »69
Kansas State Football / Re: Jesse Ertz (Lack of)Medical Redshirt Thread
« on: July 19, 2017, 08:38:14 AM »Even if we didn't play him on the scout team, I don't think it would have mattered. We would have had to have the team doctors falsify his records. The NCAA looks at that stuff to determine if the season was lost due to injury. I think they even have a doctor on contract to review scans & records to determine if players should have been cleared to play.
So does a player have to lose two full seasons to injury to qualify for a hardship? I know Ertz and Jason White are more than a decade apart, but I'm pretty sure White actually saw game action in five straight seasons and still got to come back in '04. Two of those seasons were mop-up duty, but Ertz took zero snaps in '13 and two in '15. Rules might have changed since White, but I've never understood how these decisions are made. From what I've read, I'm not sure the people making the decisions do, either.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Miracle in Manhattan Documentary
« on: July 18, 2017, 09:59:44 AM »
Loved the old footage for sure. I could watch that stuff for hours. I was born in '87 and am not from a K-State family, so until now, I've only been able to read about how bad it was. Pre-Snyder video is pretty hard to find, so it was pretty insane to actually see shots of an empty stadium during home games, or an entire end zone full of Nebraska fans. Was also nice to see him branch out and interview more than the usual Michael Smith, Eric Gallon, etc. Those guys are great, but it was good to get some fresh perspective from other players as well. Doesn't sound like part two will happen any time soon, but I do hope it happens at some point. A few things in particular I took away from part one:
I've read a few variations of the Tulane story before, but wasn't convinced it was more than just folklore. Again, reading about something and actually seeing it for yourself are way different. Wonder if Dan even bothered reaching out to Parrish when putting this thing together.
I'd be interested to see what the other logo options were when players voted on the Powercat. I'm sure those are long gone, but I'll always be curious.
Don't think I'd ever heard the story about us getting cheered off the field in Lincoln. Also wouldn't have minded more info about the trip to Tokyo. Video of anything pre-1993 is pretty sparse, unless I'm just looking in the wrong places.
I know Snyder has always had an interesting relationship with the media, but some of those early interviews still caught me off guard. Guess I didn't realize how much he had to go to bat for his players in those first few seasons.
I've read a few variations of the Tulane story before, but wasn't convinced it was more than just folklore. Again, reading about something and actually seeing it for yourself are way different. Wonder if Dan even bothered reaching out to Parrish when putting this thing together.
I'd be interested to see what the other logo options were when players voted on the Powercat. I'm sure those are long gone, but I'll always be curious.
Don't think I'd ever heard the story about us getting cheered off the field in Lincoln. Also wouldn't have minded more info about the trip to Tokyo. Video of anything pre-1993 is pretty sparse, unless I'm just looking in the wrong places.
I know Snyder has always had an interesting relationship with the media, but some of those early interviews still caught me off guard. Guess I didn't realize how much he had to go to bat for his players in those first few seasons.
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Kansas State Football / Re: spring practice 17 tidbits, nuggets, and hearsay
« on: July 13, 2017, 08:38:06 AM »
Seeing tweets that ESPN didn't run the segment. Not at a TV and my app is acting up. Anybody got anything?
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Kansas State Football / Re: It's Venables
« on: July 13, 2017, 08:01:04 AM »
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Kansas State Football / Re: Media hates us, we get no respect, keep the chip on our shoulder thread
« on: July 11, 2017, 10:00:38 AM »Random, but this surfaced tonight while I was organizing some stuff in the basement. Wefald gave it to me when I was writing a Collegian story about his retirement. At the time, I thought it was weird he had it so readily available (still picture him opening a closet full of them and grabbing one off the top of the stack), but I'm glad I have it now. He also gave me a copy of the "apology story" SI wrote a few years later.
Why did they write an apology story?
I believe it was a deal Wefald or Snyder (can't remember who) made with the reporter. If we started to improve, he'd come back to Manhattan and do another story. It wasn't a literal apology so much as a "look, they don't suck anymore" story.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Bowl Projections
« on: July 10, 2017, 03:16:08 PM »I think gE has said for years that bowl games are meaningless.
Always ahead of the curve. I think what's interesting with the current situation is that the players are increasingly feeling this way too.
I've wondered this myself, especially since the playoff became a thing. Mid- and lower-tier bowl games don't seem like much more than a money grab for sponsors these days, kinda like all these one-off postseason basketball tournaments (CBI, Vegas 16, etc.). We've already run into the problem of having more bowl games than teams with 6+ wins, so they have to let in teams with losing records. I can only imagine that will just get worse.
There will always be at least a couple "benefits" to playing in lesser bowl games - extra practices for underclassmen, one more chance for non pro-bound seniors to put on their pads, an occasional intriguing matchup (still hoping for the chance to crush Nebraska's dreams on a neutral field) - but with terrible (if any) payouts and little more than bragging rights on the line, they've definitely lost their luster.
A lot of people take time off around the holidays, and it's fun having football on all of the time. And 95% of them are games where teams with winning records play each other, so there's some pretty good quality football being played.
I like bowls. They're fun, and they don't really hurt anyone.
I was talking more about the lack of draw for the school and players in particular. Sorry, I guess I didn't make that very clear. There will always be perks for fans*, especially for a fan base that travels as well as ours. I've made a couple bowl trips and will definitely continue to do so.
*Except in the Pinstripe Bowl. Everything about that game is bad.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Bowl Projections
« on: July 10, 2017, 01:19:56 PM »I think gE has said for years that bowl games are meaningless.
Always ahead of the curve. I think what's interesting with the current situation is that the players are increasingly feeling this way too.
I've wondered this myself, especially since the playoff became a thing. Mid- and lower-tier bowl games don't seem like much more than a money grab for sponsors these days, kinda like all these one-off postseason basketball tournaments (CBI, Vegas 16, etc.). We've already run into the problem of having more bowl games than teams with 6+ wins, so they have to let in teams with losing records. I can only imagine that will just get worse.
There will always be at least a couple "benefits" to playing in lesser bowl games - extra practices for underclassmen, one more chance for non pro-bound seniors to put on their pads, an occasional intriguing matchup (still hoping for the chance to crush Nebraska's dreams on a neutral field) - but with terrible (if any) payouts and little more than bragging rights on the line, they've definitely lost their luster.