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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Baylor
« on: February 13, 2014, 04:09:34 PM »
earholing Wacky? Whats that?
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: college bball refs literally give KU wins (needs to stop)
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:47:21 PM »
How about a scenario where we play at afh, if game is on the up and up we play in ood.
If refs pull shenanigans in afh, we boycott ood game, teams can play in empty arena if they
Want, would be hilarious if this swept the conference and the whole league made a national
Statement against injustice.
If refs pull shenanigans in afh, we boycott ood game, teams can play in empty arena if they
Want, would be hilarious if this swept the conference and the whole league made a national
Statement against injustice.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: college bball refs literally give KU wins (needs to stop)
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:02:23 PM »Above and beyond the normal ref problems, everyone in the conf basically knows that Sheldon Jr is the absolute worst, over the top, flopper in all of NCAA basketball.
I have seen a bunch of vids online of situations where he doesn't even get touched but flops back violently holding his face like he got elbowed. The refs have totally let him by with this bs behavior lately too.
That and Seldon's big dumb feet being out of bounds when he dives into crowds.
this was a good one, the TV people even seem complicit, they didn't even replay that one to take a look.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: college bball refs literally give KU wins (needs to stop)
« on: February 10, 2014, 03:39:38 PM »
I've been watching basketball for a long time now, and for the most part don't care about refs, they blow some here and there,
but a KU game especially at afh is just a different animal. It is the only time I am ever offended by officiating, and it is nearly
every game.
but a KU game especially at afh is just a different animal. It is the only time I am ever offended by officiating, and it is nearly
every game.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: college bball refs literally give KU wins (needs to stop)
« on: February 10, 2014, 03:25:21 PM »
It does really suck, the only justice is when ncaa tournament games are called fairly and they have to make their own way. Even then
though they go in with a seed they don't fully deserve and coast to the sweet 16. The big 12 should just get rid of their asses, they
damn sure don't bring in any football money. I would rather have Missouri at least they didn't have the refs in their pocket.
though they go in with a seed they don't fully deserve and coast to the sweet 16. The big 12 should just get rid of their asses, they
damn sure don't bring in any football money. I would rather have Missouri at least they didn't have the refs in their pocket.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Michael Sam
« on: February 10, 2014, 03:07:19 PM »can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
do whatever you want
yeah, that sounds like a setup. I don't trust you, if I start making fun of jayhawks or something, next thing I know I'll get ganged up
on by you and seven.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Michael Sam
« on: February 10, 2014, 02:56:49 PM »can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Michael Sam
« on: February 10, 2014, 02:37:53 PM »
can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Marcus Smart's Fallout
« on: February 09, 2014, 10:05:39 PM »
Bigotry in all it's forms is pretty natural with humans, humans are intolerant of each other for every
Reason under the sun. If I don't like, agree with, condone, accept, somebody else it is not my
Right to insist they change to my likeing, but I can choose not to associate with them.
Reason under the sun. If I don't like, agree with, condone, accept, somebody else it is not my
Right to insist they change to my likeing, but I can choose not to associate with them.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Marcus Smart's Fallout
« on: February 08, 2014, 11:57:42 PM »
If this happened at ood with no racist talk, I would be proud of this fan.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Marcus Smart's Fallout
« on: February 08, 2014, 11:46:48 PM »How do we know marcus wasn't "word" flopping?QuoteRyan Aber ?@ryaber 15m
Sure this has been said but OSU radio said immediately after the incident that Smart told the OSU coaches that the fan said THE word
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 09:15:21 PM »couldn't happen. the superbowl is too big of a single event, on something that big, the book tries to get even money on both sides. in the impossible hypothetical you propose where no matter what line they offered, they couldn't do that, they'd shut the book down.
sports gambling is bettor vs. book period. The book has a 5% advantage with bets at the spread. The bettor has to win 52.chnge% of his even money
bets to break even. The best pro gamblers in the world run slightly above this with an extremely good year topping 60%.
In regard to lines, Pinnacle sports does the math and sets the lines for almost the entire industry. Pinny sends early lines to the pros, the pros look for soft lines and make their bets. Pinny adjusts from their professional player imput then attempts to forecast a line that will draw even action. In the
end books don't care as much about good or bad lines as much as they do even action. With that said and all their forecasting books routinely
have games with lopsided action, and don't really gaf because one game is pretty meaningless they win some and lose some and go on.
on an individual bet, it's better v book. in total, it's better v bettor with the book taking the vig.
on large numbers of small bets, like college bball, they don't try to attract even money, they try to get the line right, to protect themselves against professional money. not the same as one big event.
I just shared with you how things really work from watching several annual conferences chaired
By industry market makers from all sides, but whatever.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 08:46:03 PM »
we have a local book in town that is heavily lopsided more than not. He could hedge if he wanted to but doesn't.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 08:43:41 PM »couldn't happen. the superbowl is too big of a single event, on something that big, the book tries to get even money on both sides. in the impossible hypothetical you propose where no matter what line they offered, they couldn't do that, they'd shut the book down.
sports gambling is bettor vs. book period. The book has a 5% advantage with bets at the spread. The bettor has to win 52.chnge% of his even money
bets to break even. The best pro gamblers in the world run slightly above this with an extremely good year topping 60%.
In regard to lines, Pinnacle sports does the math and sets the lines for almost the entire industry. Pinny sends early lines to the pros, the pros look for soft lines and make their bets. Pinny adjusts from their professional player imput then attempts to forecast a line that will draw even action. In the
end books don't care as much about good or bad lines as much as they do even action. With that said and all their forecasting books routinely
have games with lopsided action, and don't really gaf because one game is pretty meaningless they win some and lose some and go on.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 08:19:39 PM »Stats-what do I do with them? Are they predictive of future events? can they give me a statistically sound advantage over a bookie?
if you don't use stats, the book has a significant advantage over you. actually the other side of the bet does, not the book.
Really? Explain please
a small number of bettors may have statistical models that are better than the statistical models used to set the lines. tons of betters have access to (and use) models that are only a little bit worse. to the extent that sophisticated bettors can overperform, it comes from bettors who underperform. that group will include both those general bettors that use inferior statistical models and those that don't make use of any statistical information.
Hypothetically lets say all sophistication levels of models are in agreement on the superbowl and everyone bets on the winning side, in this scenario that happens far more than you may realize, who loses these bets, the tooth fairy?
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 07:08:21 PM »Stats-what do I do with them? Are they predictive of future events? can they give me a statistically sound advantage over a bookie?
if you don't use stats, the book has a significant advantage over you. actually the other side of the bet does, not the book.
Really? Explain please
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 05:31:26 PM »Predictive: if we allow 1.10 ppp and play games at 70+ possessions we will not win another road game this year. We were fortunate against ISU and WVU that we can even talk about turnovers being a factor as poorly as we controlled pace and played defense.
will we or will we not? I don't think anyone has the answer to that right? Fan I know you love statistics and don't think it's
bad or anything, but I am curious how they can be useful to me as a fan.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Not an UnderStatenment, Cats take a turnover for the worse; WVU 2 ADV
« on: February 04, 2014, 05:21:07 PM »
Stats-what do I do with them? Are they predictive of future events? can they give me a statistically sound advantage over a bookie?
Do they just describe what happened in the game that I just watched? JMHO but if no significant future advantage can be gained
I'm gonna sit over here in camp Tubesock where I look at the after the fact stats and say to myself "yep thats pretty much what
I just saw on tv, but wow I didn't realize they went to the line THAT much more than we did" basically woopty-effing-doo.
Do they just describe what happened in the game that I just watched? JMHO but if no significant future advantage can be gained
I'm gonna sit over here in camp Tubesock where I look at the after the fact stats and say to myself "yep thats pretty much what
I just saw on tv, but wow I didn't realize they went to the line THAT much more than we did" basically woopty-effing-doo.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: What a guy our old FRANK is!
« on: January 24, 2014, 10:56:10 PM »
I don't give Frank credit for recruits that came to play for Huggins, and I don't praise my waiter for how good my food is.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: How would you rate yourself as a poster?
« on: January 22, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »
This is strange. I'm an average to below average poker player, but I don't hang out in poker rooms
Proving it.
Proving it.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: How would you rate yourself as a poster?
« on: January 22, 2014, 08:44:55 PM »
Everyones numbers look spot on so far.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Other Games Thread!
« on: January 20, 2014, 10:14:59 PM »
Anybody know how much ku bball makes for the confy? And how does it compare with what good and bad fball teams make?
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Tell US Why Don't You Post?
« on: January 05, 2014, 10:19:29 AM »
More daris, more 'clams
Need far less breadmichsevencnsmetaletccat
Sd seems to have lost a few steps too.
Need far less breadmichsevencnsmetaletccat
Sd seems to have lost a few steps too.