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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Stingray
« on: October 08, 2015, 01:12:59 PM »
The 4th Amendment privacy discussions going on in the gun thread, reminded me of Stingray technology.  When I first heard about this, i dismissed it as tinfoil hat stuff.  Stuff Alex Jones and other paranoid weirdos ramble about that doesn't actually exist.  But after reading about it in several reputable publications, it's definitely out there. 

This stuff is the most absurd violation of the constitution I've ever heard of.  When you consider that local police departments have been integrating this technology for years, I think it's worse than anything the NSA has done.

Stingrays basically act like a fake cell phone tower. It sends out a signal to all the phones in the area, even if they're not being used.  It can be used to listen in on a cell phone and can track a cell phone and its owner right down to the room or even the pocket that it's in.  It's being used by police to find criminals, and it's being used secretly.  Prosecutors won't even talk about them in court.  These things are being used in local police vans.  Needless to say, these are absolutely against the rules.  And even the most apathetic individual re. privacy rights should at least raise an eyebrow on this.

http://www.citylab.com/crime/2015/08/youre-going-to-hear-a-lot-more-about-police-use-of-stingray/402283/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/18/technology/security/police-stingray-phone-tracker/
https://www.aclu.org/map/stingray-tracking-devices-whos-got-them

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Kansas State Football / DLew's Classic Thursday Howevers (POKES)
« on: October 01, 2015, 10:08:20 AM »
Time for another edition of Thursday Howevers.  Sorry for the hiatus gang, but I'm happy to resurrect this classic thread series that I began seasons ago. Remember folks, this ain't a predicto, this is just the #data. 

- Oklahoma State is giving up only 4.4 YPP.
- However, stillwater's weather forecast appears to be partly cloudy.

 :Chirp:

- JW Walsh provides a potent run threat behind the Pokes' starting QB Mason Rudolph.
- However, T Boone Pickens got divorced in 2012.

 :runaway:

- Oklahoma State is intercepting 1.3 passes per game.
- However, it is against the law to have fish contained in a fish bowl while riding a bus in Oklahoma.

 :bball:

- Oklahoma State has won every game against Kansas State in Stillwater beginning in 2003.
- However, Kansas state is averaging 6.5 penalties per game, good enough for 63rd in the country.

 :billdance:

- Kansas State is averaging 8.9 yds per pass attempt so far this season.
- However, the population density of Stillwater is 1,600 people per square mile.

 :Lurk:

- Oklahoma State's TOP share % of the first quarter is 40%.
- However, a girl rides a horse named Bullet after Cowboy touchdowns
 
:th_twocents:

- Have a good thursday.
- However, go Cats.
 :Wha:

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Kansas State Football / EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
« on: September 27, 2015, 03:17:00 PM »
Cats were 36th this week. 

STUDS
Chris Murray (Reno Gazette Journal) had the Cats at 20th!  Murray is the frontrunner for AP Voter Stud of the Year.  He's the only voter who has had the Cats on all of his ballots this season. 

Rounding out the studs who voted for the cats are Keith Sargeant of the Asbury Park Press in Neptune, New Jersey, who ranked the Cats 22, and Gary Horowitz of the Statesman Journal out of Salem, Oregon, who ranked the cats at 24.

DUD
Doug Doughty, of the Roanoke (Va.) Times had the Cats at 25th last week, and dropped them to NR.  Stanford and Miami joined his poll this week in lieu of the Cats.

For more information, visit http://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/ksu/2015.

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Kansas State Football / How Was the Entrance????
« on: September 06, 2015, 07:57:06 PM »
I'm surprised there haven't really been any comments on this in the BSFS thread.  How did the players come out of the tunnel?  Was it garage door opening thing like with Prince?  Was there a neat Nebraska-esque video that showed the Cats in the tunnel?  I must know!

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Kansas State Football / Big XII Conference Predicdos Bashathon 2015
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:52:44 PM »
Welcome again to everyone's favorite annual thread and winner of several Cassy awards.  Let's skip all the pageantry and get right down to the rules.  That's right, this thread has some predicdos and some predicdon'ts.

Predicdos:  List every team's record.  But that's not enough.  We need to know who beats who.  Who loses to who.  Scores are unnecessary, but hey, if you want to put scores in, that's up to you, pal.  Feel free to add commentary to your post.  Also feel free to comment on others' predicdos.  But be forewarned, if you criticize others' predicdos without posting your own, it's possible you'll be criticized.

Predicdon'ts: Do NOT just list what you think the final standings are going to be.  Don't just list teams' records.  That is weak garbage and it won't be allowed here.  This brings me no great pleasure, but if you ruin this thread with that nonsense, i'll be forced to PM a mod and have you sanctioned or censured.

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Essentially Flyertalk / State of the Combofanning 2015
« on: August 14, 2015, 06:09:29 PM »
Probably the worst year ever.  I'm pinning the blame 90% on clams.

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Kansas State Football / Where is emdiggy?
« on: August 12, 2015, 06:35:55 PM »
Doesn't quite feel like mid august without emdiggy dropping CFB knowledge nukes on this place and getting everyone thirsty for some ksu football. 

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Let's get the obvious ones out of the way: Strong, Swagwood, Beaty for sure. Hell, Strong might just be the strongest coach in the country, pardon the pun.

Gundy and Horsewomen probably could as well. 

Rhoads?  I really don't know.  Could Stoops?  I'm guessing not.

Certified weaklings: Snyder.  Patterson. Briles is probably too old to crank out 20 good ones.


So here is my list of coaches who could do the most pushups in a row:

1. Strong (45 shups)
2. Ryan Swagosling (40 shups)
3. Beaty (34 shups)
5 (tie). Gundy (21 shups)
5 (tie). Holgerson (20 shups)
6. Rhoads (17 shups)
7. Stoops (14 shups)
8. Patterson (11 shups)
9. Briles (8 shups)
10. Snyder (0 shups)

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Essentially Flyertalk / Apple Cores
« on: April 21, 2015, 02:57:25 PM »
The other day I sat down with a buddy of mine and we were both eating apples and conversing.  About 5 minutes into the convo, a look of horror comes upon my face.  "Are you," I started. "Are you eating the core?" 

He was.  He explained that he always had and that there's no reason not to really.  So i looked it up, and he's right.

Since then, I've eaten four apples in their entirety.  I want to be part of the revolution.

What say YOU? 

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So there was a stretch roughly 6 months-a year ago where i would have terrifying dreams absolutely every night.  Basically everything you could think of that's horrible.  Being shot at, being mugged, parents dying, etc.  The absolute worst was when I dreamt I got on a train and started killing people.  I remember thinking in that one "my God, what have I done?!"  Just the other night I was on a train (with 8mp actually) and rural Illinois was under attack.  Bombs falling everywhere. 

The only silver lining i guess is that waking up brings a sense of relief.  But I've had some serious freddy krueger crap goin on and it sucks.  Terribly stressful way to start my day.

Do YOU have bad dreams?  Am I crazy?  Is there anything that can be done to stop them when they keep happening?

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Well guys, we made it another year.  Another year older. Another year wiser.  In the fall we'll have Wolters, Wyatt, and Stan, but for now?  For now we combofan.

Let's all talk about things we should talk about over the course of the next 5 or 6 months.

:excited:   :combofan:


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Kansas State Football / Conference Shutouts
« on: October 25, 2014, 06:32:44 PM »
Our last one was 2003 versus Iowa State!  This one was against Texas.  Ha!  How humiliating for Texas!

 :Woot:

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Kansas State Football / Gems of the OU Game Thread
« on: October 18, 2014, 05:27:57 PM »
Greetings, Wildcats fans!  Dlew here doing another edition of the Gems from the Game Thread.  I went over to LandThieves.com and read 44 pages so YOU DON'T HAVE TO!

Let's get to it! 

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BOOMER ****ING SOONER!

Let's beat the **** out of classy LHC Bill Snyder!
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I'm all about ****ing up some cats....

PM me for pics of ****ed up cats....seriously...
um okay weirdo.

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My dad is going to an OU game for the first time since 2003. We'll win. He's good luck. OU beat A&M 77-0 that day.
ha ha ha...in your dad's idiot face, loser.

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Did a brief look thru past OU schedules, the last team to win back to back road games in Norman was Colorado in 95 & 98.

It ain't happening today. **** K-State.

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Defense showed up early... NICE
don't get used to it, chump.

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Knight is made of glass.

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Why was that not penalty on kstate
:bawl:
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Late hit. Come on Cody...
:frown:
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Where the flag on KSU for hitting TK? WTF?
:cry:
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Dirty ass KState DB rewind. ****ing idiot refs.
:Crybaby:

it went on like this for about 25 posts. 

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Great start to the game. Welcome back to the crap storm everybody!

Thank you Alex Ross

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K ST still hasn't figured out how to stop our run game.

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That dude said beef in the hole

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Cody Thomas is about to become legend
Actually he's about to be yanked.

After gronk gronked it for a gronkgronk.
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MIke Stoops special right there.
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Well that sucked. Getting BTFO by Yo soy Fiesta's brother.
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****ing Tim Tebow bullshit, damnit.

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Our third down shittiness when Knight is in the game is absolutely comical.

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****ing Josh Heupel why am I even watching this?
They HATE Heupel.

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All the sudden our HUGE O-Line can't push this small kstate d-line off the ball...this team is really mental....

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another shitty punt
You're going to need to sit down because that punt won't even crack the top 3 special teams disasters for OU today.

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Getting physically dominated by Kansas ****ing State. Great.

The build up
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Yea, we get to go 99 yards. This should help our stats.
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here comes Mr. 3 and out! No more running the ball!
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Be nice time for a 99 yard grinder drive.

The aftermath
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Man Knight stinks
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How in the hell do you make that throw??? He's horrible.
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Bench his sorry ass.
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GET THIS ****ING Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) OUT OF THE GAME, HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOT MONEY ON IT
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fire bob stoops
That was Knight's first incompletion.  And he went on to have a pretty good game.  They would score on the next play.

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How long until one of those low KSU snaps becomes an OU fumble recovery?
At least another 330 days or so.

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Lockett has ups. What a catch

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We are not a top 10 team, we just aren't. That includes the staff.
You'll be a top 10 team for about another 20 hours.

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Defense needs to jam these **** receivers. That will shut down KSU's little trinket pass play there.

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i wish our offense was half as creative as k state's
it really is beautiful when it's working.

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I hope Lockett rips both of his ****ing knees. I don't give a crap about karma on game day. **** him and the entire Lockett traitor family.
:sdeek:!  Wouldn't it be a shame if something awful happened to an OU WR? 

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****, if Sheppard is hurt, season over
ha! 

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So we're going to get into a shootout with....wait for it...Purple Kansas?


REALLY?

**** OFF
That purple kansas crap is cute when OU was woodshedding us.  Makes them look stupid when we punk them in their house two times in a row.

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Man we're going to miss Moneycutt.
:lol:
If only you knew.

After the miss before half:
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Moneycu......... NM

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outside of several defensive busts and the atrocious pick-6....we haven't played poorly at all.
aside from that, mrs. lincoln, how was the show?

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Only thing I'll say is the people knocking KSU are morons. This "OMG, guys... we're going to lose to Kansas ****ING STATE" like they're an 0-6 team is stupid. They are pretty good. As good or better than 2000, 2003 and 2012 KSU were. They're a bad kicker away from being top 5 and possibly even top 4/playoff contenders right now. But we've had many chances to be ahead in this game and we're still ****ing up too much.
agree with you point, but hold your schooner horses on saying this is the best k-state team ever.

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The problem is ****ing Snyder, ****ing Gundy, ****ing Patterson, ****ing Briles and ****ing Patterson would all do more with Oklahoma than what ****ing Stoops has been doing as late. And it doesn't matter how good these teams get, Oklahoma still should be ****ing better if Stoops was doing his ****ing job. He was the one that said Oklahoma is about championships. Well, where the **** are they in recent years?

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If Stoops does call it a day after the season, we should hire Briles. It's all about the offense these days. No one cares about defense anymore. Might as well hire an offensive genius....
LOL.  Briles wouldn't touch OU.

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I really wish Hunnicutt had hit that FG...
:Ugh:

SECOND HALF TIME!
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Why can OU make slow white guys look fast? that is on the players, not the coaches!
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****ing garbage. Nice start by defense. ****ing cuckhold motherfuckers.
:Wha:

oh my.

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KSU never ever makes a mistake against OU. EVER. Always play the perfect game.
except that time when we didn't have the punter lined up for a punt play during that game when the OU kid exploded.

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Waters is done.
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The big run by Waters might end up being our best play of the day.

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I swear if k state had caught that I would have taken a big diarrhea poo on my couch and used tweezers to pull out the good stuff for dinner tonight.
that's disgusting.

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We're going to win this game. We're playing a tough team that probably wants to beat OU more than anyone else on their schedule. Give 'em a break.

After their score:
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Good ****ing God, defense. This is horrible.

Another seam pass
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I can't believe the gradeschool, backyard football crap we keep falling for.
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How many times will we fall for that?
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Every time they run that play, their linemen are down the field. They need to ****ing call it!
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Do these officials not realize that the offense can't have linemen down field on a pass play that is completed beyond the line of scrimmage? Another big play for K-State that should have been called back.
Listen bucko, the conference knows who fills the coffers.  So shut up and get used to it.

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We are getting completely embarrassed on national TV.....by K State. Humiliating.
So arrogant.  :nono:

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What's been lost in all this is that our offenses torching what was supposed to be a pretty good defense.
On the next play...

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ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME ****ING HELL

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here comes grand daddy purp n his ball control offense
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TREVOR ****ING KNIGHT!
and now for the PAT
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are you ****ing kidding
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Even Moneycutt is getting involved in the suckage.
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4 pts we've lost on kicks. Hard to believe.
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That missed FG really is going to **** us, isn't it?
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If we lose this game by one ****ing point im going to lose my ****ing mind
:Carl:

They would stop us on a third down.

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**** YES SLKDFJAL:SFJKLDFJKDSKLLFJSDLJFSLJ I HOPE WE DONT HAVE TO KICK A FIELD GOAL
:Ugh:
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Punt that ****ing ball you cum filled crap eating **** ass wildcat dickwad pieces of dog crap wrapped in scabs and old man **** hair!
:Wha:
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If I ever meet Jake Trotter I'm going to **** punt him into the next county.
:surprised:

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This is where you wish you could run the ball behind a big o line with a big power back and take the clock down for your easy money FG kicker. Sadly I have no confidence in any of those things right now

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If I could, I would grow a big black **** just so I could make him suck it.
Biggest **** in history is from a white man. Do some ****ing research!
:confused:
so weird.

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In the park bench bomb game, Kansas State threw an 80 yard touchdown pass with hardly any time remaining to tie the game. I hope the hell we don't see a repeat. Has anyone heard a loud bang?
I think this guy is wrong -- he's thinking of '01 right?  We got waxed in '05.

anyways, here is their last drive
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I know we love Honeycutt, but after today I'm not that confident here.
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Under center the whole ****ing drive, then we go pistol on 3 and short? I'm furious
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Ugh... even our FG unit makes me nervous today
And here...we...go...






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OH MY GOD
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Ok don't kick it ever agin.
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See ya. Turned this crap off.
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Are you shitting me...?
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**** you Michael hunnicut. If anyone ever calls him money cut again I hope you get aids
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OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!! ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME? KANSAS STATE IS GOING TO ****ING BEAT US! ****! We cannot get out of our own way.
:lol:
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OU: Here you go, KSU. Would you like this game giftwrapped?
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Wow what a ****ing ****sucking ****
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wow don't even know what to say about that missed FG! I'm speechless!
It goes back to that 3rd and goal call up the middle! K ST was 100% ready for the run up the middle!
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Yea another 8-9 win season. Woo Whoo Stoops is a God
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That's it... 9-3 when we should've been a title contender.
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It feels awful to say, but they are just losers today.

Sorry losers.
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All of you ****ers that made fun of the ksu kicker during the auburn game just got your karmic payback
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KSU was and is still better than us

Bob doesn't even looked surprised, kinda like he expected a shitshow today
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**** you, Michael Honneycut, you disgusting ****.
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I hope Michael hunnicutt gets hit by a bus tonight. ****ing **** ass **** kicker
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LHC Bill Snyder can DOAFHA. **** that old fudge packer.
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Agreed, I hope LHC Bill Snyder and Phaggot Lockett get hit by their own bus.

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Hey Guys!  I went over to the Cyclone Fanatic Message board and looked over the last 35 pages of the Iowa State game thread so you don't have to!

We're picking things up just after that horribly long K-State drive that led to no points. Let's get down to business.

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SOME STUFFING FOR YOUR TURKEY DAY DINNER A BIT EARLY

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Time to put this game away. Too close for a game against K-State.

You poor bastard.

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How ironic would winning this with a 2nd 1/2 shut out be?!

Super ironic?  :dunno:

RANDALL EVANS INT.  Their defeatist attitude is just so, so sweet.

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HOLY **** THESE OFFICIALS ARE FULL OF ****.
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BEND US OVER REFS.
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His knees appeared to be down.
But we are Iowa State so the call on the field will stand
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Under review which means an ISU screw job. I don't know the last replay they showed looked like his knee was down first
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That is Cyclone football right there.
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We'll, never get the calls in this conference.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

That's my favorite one so far.  Iowa state fellas says "we'll never get the call in this conference." just perfect.

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Whatever happens now. Offense needs to score on ghe next possession
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THese ******* announcers just need to get on with it and have Waters kid
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Thanks Big 12.

I think this was the conversion attempt after the TD to bring us within 2

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thats right, eat some Cotton waters.

Announcers being crying tears, their baby be down!
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Hell of a hit there! Win, lose or draw I'm proud of those kids today
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Does Snyder go for the onside and dagger here, or does he trust his defense to stop us?
He trusts your offense to just not.

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they may need to take Mr Waters helmet away.. That would not bother me, hate to see a kid get hurt, but we really need this win.
Iowa State class.  SORRY ABOUT YOUR CONCUSSION, FELLOW IOWAN, BUT WE REALLY NEED THIS W FOR OUR SEASON THAT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE 2-3 WINS AND GET OUR COACH FIRED ANYHOW.

Then we kicked it off to them

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Interesting all the passing with the tiny lead.
Yeah!
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Richardson does not run the option very well. :/
No he didn't.  Huge play by our D.

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Chewing up clock, that part is going well so far.
You poor, poor bastard.

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Man out of all programs I hate kst. Lets finish this
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This is not good. Setting up to be another heartbreaker for us.
This guy.  This guy this guy this guy.  He gets it.

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Dang it.. Our bend don't break D might give up a field goal here.
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Let's see if the D can bring us home. A stop here and it is ours... Do or die time guys! Step up!
Man that hits home for me.  I say that a lot.  "I think if we can stop them here we'll win."  Thing is.  They did stop us on this drive. This guy's calculations were just off.  He needs to take his predicto machine back to the shop for more oil.

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Big, big series for the offense here.
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GET THAT 1 YARD! TAKE IT!
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Gut check time, get this first down men. Go and take it, right now, take it.
ehhhh???
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Play action Mangino. Do it.
ehhhhhhhhh???
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spread them out, do not just try to smash mouth this 1 yard
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?!





Ready?






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I have seen this movie before.
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Awful.
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what a load of crap
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Iowa State football: 3rd and 1 turns into 4th and 4.
:lol: so true

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I don't like these close K-State games at all.

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We just missed a huge opportunity. Let's see if the D has another stop in them...
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I am getting the vaseline
Ha

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It does take a special QB to run Snyders offense. A JUCO QB.

Water
Michael Bishop
Elle Roberson

This one was randomly thrown in.  Ell wasn't a juco kid.  :dunno:

After Lockett's catch
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He's in bounce.
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Good job replay official. wtf.
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Another Snyder classic coming to a cornhole near you.
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I've seen this movie before against KSU.
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We have seen this 5 out of 6 years against Synder.
Let them score.
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Tired of getting burned by KSU's poor man version of Tim Tebow. Klein and now this mother****er.
yessssssssssssssss
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Game over. We're ISU.
YES!  YOU ARE!  DON'T EVER FORGET THAT!

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Well, there it is. We'll have 1:30 to win it. Offense has to hold up their end of the deal, one of these years.

One of these stinkin' years, boys.

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Still trying to figure out what's worse about being a cyclone fan. The Blowouts or losing like this. Either way, I've certainly had my fill of both.

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This loss is all on Mangino IMO.
Certainly not on Rhoads for putting together that just absolutely top-to-bottom dogshit excuse for a Power Five conference team.

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Just got back from the grocery store, what the F***?!?
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This drive is so huge for ISU football...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Richardson does not look confident.
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Maybe we have an Auburn hail marry in us..
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44 yards in 45 seconds. Optimism rising.
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Last year the offense would have turned it over on downs by now, there is promise here
This is just too much.

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only fitting to end with that garbage
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Good effort, but F...this team
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Well that ended in typical Cyclone fashion!
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And the game ends how you'd expect an ISU game to end
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Absolutely heartbreaking
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Can't think of a coach I respect more and hate more than Snyder. Guy just flat out gets it done. Wish ISU would have hired that ******.
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Another home game ****** down the legs in the CPR era. Enough.

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I for one, think we probably involve Waters in the running game quite a bit, but far different from anything we've seen since at least 2010.  I think it's extremely unlikely that we do the QB/RB option read out of the shotgun, or the QB designed runs between the tackles like we saw out of Klein, and then Sams/Waters last year. 

RATHER, I think we see a return of the bubble option that CCQ made so famous.  Hey, that was marginally effective, and CCQ was in charge.  I don't think it's a stretch (lil running game humor  ;) ) to say that Waters is probably a better runner that Coffman was.  That could be a really solid set, especially if we line up Lockett in the slot. 

Additionally, I think we do some more conventional option plays with Gronk lead blocking.  Hate on Waters all you want, but when we ran the conventional option last year, he was pretty damn good at (1) deciding when to pitch and (2) accurately pitching it. 

These are only a few great ideas on how to effectively run the ball without experienced running backs! 

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Essentially Flyertalk / One thing I like to do in the off-season
« on: July 15, 2014, 11:02:28 PM »
For conference standings predictos, I like to play a game where I look at somebody's WL conference record/standings and try to figure out who they have winning every game, and which games they leave unanswered.  FOR EXAMPLE:

1.Oklahoma 12-0 (9-0)
2.Baylor 10-2 (7-2)
3.Kansas State 10-2 (7-2)
4.Texas 8-4 (6-3)
5.Texas Tech 8-4 (5-4)
6.Oklahoma State 7-5 (4-5)
7.TCU 7-5 (4-5)
8.Iowa State 4-8 (2-7)
9.West Virginia 3-9 (1-8)
10.Kansas 2-10 (0-9)


So everyone loses to OU. Everybody beats KU. Everyone except for KU beats WVU. Everyone except for WVU and KU beat ISU. In reality, then, the rest of the league is decided by a 5 game season where the standings are:

T1. Baylor (4-1)
T1. KSU (4-1)
3. Texas (3-2)
4. TTech (2-3)
T6. OSU (1-4)
T6. TCU (1-4)

Tech must split games against TCU/OSU (they must lose against the loser of OSU/TCU). This means we can get rid of TCU and OSU and remove two wins from each remaining team except for tech, who will only have one win removed and one loss removed.

T1. Baylor (2-1)
T1. KSU (2-1)
3. Texas (1-2)
4. TTech (1-2)

So the winner of Baylor/KSU loses to the loser of Texas/Tech and the loser of Baylor/KSU beats the winner of Texas/Tech.  I don't think you can figure them out beyond this. Thus, the only games the example leave unanswered are the Baylor/KSU game and the Texas/Ttech game and OSU/TCU game.

Wow! What fun!  Try it out on your own if you get bored over the next few weeks!

:Woohoo:

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Kansas State Football / Let's Get a Few Things Straight
« on: July 15, 2014, 08:32:03 PM »
So after scouring the internet over the last few weeks, it seems that the take on the 2013 Cats is that while we have an electrifying offense with Tyler Lockett and "the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the league" (which is another odd point entirely), our defense will likely be our downfall this season.  Just yesterday, I was reading some top 25 where they compared teams to Star Wars stuff, and we were The Death Star, because we had a great offense but no defense.

This talking point is made up.

People ignore the fact that our defense was pretty damn good last season.  In the Big 12, only OU gave up fewer points per game.  Adjusted for pace, only OSU gave up fewer points per play. As far as yardage goes, only OU gave up fewer yards total.  Only OSU gave up fewer yards per play.  We weren't good at 3rd down % (7th in the conference), but we forced 2 turnovers per game (29th in the country, 5th in the Big 12).

If you want to get even nit-pickier, our "Opponent's Fumble Recovery Percentage" was at 59%.  108th in the country, and last in the Big 12.  If you're like me, you throw out the "FUMBLE RECOVERIES ARE HUSTLE PLAYS" and realize that fumble recoveries are due in large part to luck.  If you want to factor that in (you don't have to), our turnover numbers could have been even better.

The point is, is that we had a top 3 defense in the league last season.  We were better than Baylor, better than TCU, better than Texas, better than Tech, and only OSU and OU have legitimate arguments that they were better than us.

Granted, we lose a couple of key players from last year's defense (Daily, Zimmerman), but our other losses (Walker, Slaughter, and Reed) weren't mega factors in last year's defense either.  Today's news of Clinkscales more than makes up for Reed's departure, IMO.  Schellenberg got a considerable amount of PT last year, and Barnett is flat out good.  Evans and Burns are a pretty good one-two punch on the corners, and if McDaniel is as close to as good as advertised, our secondary should be pretty stout, with the only weak spot being the second safety (Schellenberg).

For me, if there are question marks on this team, it ain't about the defense. 

So the next time someone tells you that "K-State is going to have a high powered offense with the Waters-Lockett connection, but then that defense..." go ahead and spit on them.

Based on last season and who we have returning, for me, the two biggest question marks are whether our offense can cool it with the turnovers, and (along those same lines) whether Waters continues to improve the way he did in the last third of last season.

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Essentially Flyertalk / WELCOME TO COMBOFAN SEASON 2014, CATS FANS!
« on: March 22, 2014, 12:07:53 AM »
What should we talk about?!

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Kansas State Football / Let's Talk about Branding
« on: March 06, 2014, 10:41:43 AM »
LSU announced recently that their "Toonces" logo is going to be phased out.  And it got me to thinking.  For a pretty accomplished athletic department, LSU has some really terrible branding.

They came out with this in the early 2000s


Then switched over to this:



Which still looks pretty ridiculous. 

And now, i assume they're going to incorporate the thing on their basketball court:



GAH! 

The eye on the football field is so cool and iconic.  The LSU font is neat too.  Why do they always try to incorporate some bizarre tigerface logo? 

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@jon_samson1
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@TerrellClink92 you're an actual idiot. 1. Community college 2. K-State 3. Your ugly girlfriend 4. Your GPA 5. You're fat and not good

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Yep. 

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Essentially Flyertalk / Grievance Master Thread
« on: January 07, 2014, 10:39:43 PM »
Lay them out here, folks.

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Kansas State Football / Michigan's Fight Song
« on: December 09, 2013, 01:18:35 AM »
One of my favorites! Can't wait to munch on some b-less spicy habs and tap my toe to and try not to pump my fist when it goes "Hail! HAIL!

SO EXCITED!

 :Woot:


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Kansas State Football / "Data"Lew12's 2013 Offense Statistical Nuggets
« on: December 08, 2013, 01:52:19 AM »
Alright so I think we can all agree that the 2013 offense wasn't as good as 2012's.  We lost K-State EMAW legend Chris Harper and Heisman finalist Quarterback Collin Klein.  On the other hand: Tyler Lockett.  So let's break down these numbers together, goEMAW.com members!

First, let's start with the raw numbers.  2013 Cats had 408.6 yards per game, which put us at 64th in the country.  2012 Cats had 392.9. 

But yards per game is kids stuff. Let's check out our pace just so we have some context. In short, our offense went really slow.  Again.  We ran 66.5 plays per game, 114th highest, in 2013.  The 2012 cats ran 65.5 plays per game, which ranked 118th last year.  A slight increase, but nothing earth shattering.

If we combine the two categories above, we can see our yards per play and get at our efficiency.  2013 Cats earned 6.1 yards per play.  Wow. That's actually really good.  That puts us at 26th in the country and 2nd in the Big 12 (behind Baylor and their uber crazy 7.5 yards per play).  It's also higher than the 2012 Cats, who had 6.0 yards per play.

OK, so 2013 Cats ran more plays and earned more yards per play than 2012 Cats. So far so good.

But let's talk points

- 2013 Cats offense scored 31.5 points per game, which is good (31st in the country; 4th in the Big 12 behind Baylor, OSU and Tech).  When you factor in our pace, it's even more impressive: 0.52 points per play (13th in the country, 3rd in the Big 12 behind Baylor and OSU). 
- Compare this with the 2012 offense, which ran at a similar pace and had fewer yards per game than 2013 offense 37.8 13th in the country.  That's crazy, especially since earlier I said only 7 offenses in the country ran fewer plays than us last year.  Factoring in our 2012's offense slow pace translates to a super high .519 points per play (3rd in the country).

DATA NOTE: 2013 Florida State's points per play is 0.764.  :sdeek: x1000.  They're good.

OK so our offense had more yards per play, but fewer points per play.  What accounts for this?  Probably either 3rd down percentage or turnovers.  Let's get into the third down stuff first:

- 2013 Cats had 12.8 third downs per game (111th most).  That's very few, which is to be expected given our pace.  Last year's was 12.2. (120th). 
- 2013 Cats converted third downs at a rate of 49.65%.  WOW!  Really good!  That ranks 13th in the country and 1st in the Big 12!  Kiss our butts, Baylor (47.1%; 19th)!  2012 Cats were really good at this too, 51.02% (6th).

Alright, so if 3rd down percentage doesn't really explain the difference, it must be turnovers.

Oh my.  It's definitely turnovers.  2013 Cats turned it over 2 times per game.  That's 95th in the country and 8th in the Big 12.  This number is made even worse by our really slow pace.  I couldn't find any pace-related turnover stats, but let me put it this way, if only 10 teams in the country run fewer plays than us, but have the 30th most turnovers, that means we have a crazy high number of turnovers per play.  Yeesh. 

By comparison, the 2012 Cats averaged only 1 turnover per game.  Only 3 teams had fewer turnovers last year.

So what was the deal?  Has to be Waters' interceptions, right? 

2013 Cats threw 1 int per game (tied with 11 teams at 78th fewest).  That's pretty bad.  It's magnified by our slow pace.  K-State's INT% was 4.28%.  Compared that to the 2012 Cats who threw 0.8 INTs (3.14%) per game.  For every 4 interceptions the 2012 offense threw, the 2013 offense threw 5.

Hmm. So the 2012 Cats actually threw a lot of interceptions given its pace too.  2013 is worse, for sure, but it still doesn't really explain the difference.  After all, K-State double its turnovers this year compared to last.  Must be fumbles.

Fumbles: The 2013 Cats had 1.5 fumbles per game (80th fewest)  Uh oh. I see where this is going. We cannot fumble it that much given our pace. The 2012 Cats had 0.8 per game (8th fewest). 

-Of those 1.5 fumbles per game, the 2013 Cats only recovered 35.3% of them (99th FR%), which translated to about 1 fumble lost per game.  The 2012 Cats recovered 70% (4th) and given that they had so few fumbles per game anyways, it means that the Cats only lost 0.2 fumbles per game (:sdeek:  :sdeek: :sdeek:).  For every fumble the 2012 offense lost, the 2013 offense lost 5.

The biggest difference between the 2012 offense and the 2013 offense is fumbles lost.  Had we held onto the ball more, or recovered it more when we did drop it, the 2013 offense would've been really good.  INTs were a problem, but only slightly moreso than 2012.  But even so, the 2013 offense was pretty good.  It ran at a snail's pace, but gobbled up a pretty good amount of yards per play and moved the chains at a good rate on third down. 

"Data"Lew 12, signing out!



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Kansas State Football / Gems from the TCU Game Thread
« on: November 17, 2013, 03:42:03 PM »
Hey guys.  Dlew here to bring you the gems from the TCU game thread.  This week, I headed over to KillerFrogs.com and read 1,043 posts on 53 pages so you don't have to!  Not one of the best GotG threads ever, but the Frogs really hate their defensive scheme ("WE NEED TO BLITZ!") and really hate their offensive line.  Most posts were about these topics.  Here's the rest:

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I already can see how they are going to ref this game. A fumble would of been devastating for KSU and a sure TCU TD.

TCU is going to have to win this despite the refs.
After Slaughter's INT:

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Ha! Remember boys, TCU will always screw you on offense. Really bad throw.
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Heh, wheels coming off early today. Sams is a very potent running QB.
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Gotta put a spy on that guy if we want to contain him. He literally can not throw so man to man shouldn't be an issue.
:nono:

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Two big pass interference calls not made and two holding calls on the TD play not called. Jack wagon Refs owe us 4 calls.
I love when opposing fans bitch about how much we hold.

After TLBL's touchdown:
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K St is a very well coached team.
Just wait till the end of the half, frog.

SECOND QUARTER
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KSU lost one of their better defenders. Most teams would try going after his replacement to find out if he is up to the job. We, obviously, are not most teams.
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Again the refs seem to have an agenda against us. Hate harping on something so subjective but man we get the hose. What is don't want to see is them letting us getting buried with bad calls then start giving us make up calls in the 4tg when the game is out hand.
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We look clueless when SAMs runs the option.
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The K St defense has been getting some very hard hits on the Frogs
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Sams is like Collin Klein.
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Great call by Snyder to put SAMs in, we're having trouble with him
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Good grief. This guy runs 2 plays and we have trouble stopping either
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That SIMS is an [Craig James]. He needs to get broken in half.
Their filter is weird.
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They get ball first, maybe that's why they are being conservative? Odd clock mgmnt

HALFTIME IS HERE
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How K State only ends up with three there I'll never know....as others mentioned, strange clock work
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At the half, no penalties on K State. K State OL holding on almost every play and refs turning their heads to it. I feel for these Frogs. Every play is an up hill battle. Proud of them for hanging tough. Game is closer than the score. We could win this one. Go Frogs!

THIRD QUARTER
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Boykin at punt returner? The hell?
FORESHADOWING...

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Holy ship. We have offense!
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I believe it was Zimmerman's backup with that ineffectual hit. Looks like the drop off is pretty steep after him
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This ref is Barack Obama and the rest of the crew is the White House admin...just makin up ship as they go.
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Find the guy with the white hat and break him in half. So sick of his [Craig James].

FOURTH QUARTER
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Really?? No block in the back on that return?
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Block in back uncalled
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block in the back?
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where's the flag?
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Nice block in back
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Huge block in the back.
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Nice push in the back on the return.
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Block in back. Blatant
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There were at least 2 uncalled blocks in the back on that return. C'mon man.
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BLOCK IN THE BACK. COME ON REF
Deuce-Deuce time:
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Botch. Ridiculous. We find new ways every week.
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NOOOOOO
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What?  #2 call is [Craig James]
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sums up the year
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Fire sharp now. How can they have two No. 2s on the field at the same time. Nobody thought about this. Nice job. This coaching staff is atrocious. Maybe that's not a rule in the mountain west.
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LHC Bill Snyder is a wizard.
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Guarantee Snyder knew that from earlier, held it in his back pocket for the right moment.
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Really, I don't think they should have gone back and called the flag after the fact... Kinda cheap if you ask me. They missed it, flag wasn't thrown, you don't get a do-over like that
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Can't check replay for that.  No flag was thrown during the play.  Return team was off the field already.  BS call.

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We can't stop Sams.
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Sams isn't too far from unsportsmanlike there
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Yes, thy should flag him but Snyder owns the refs
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Break that F er in HALF
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POP!!! He don't get up talking crap after that play did he?
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Sweet!!! Sams got jacked.

After the TCU fg bomb:
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Wow. My only worry is leaving too much time on the clock.
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To be honest I still think we lose but damn what a game.
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Trujillo's da man!
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Best defense in the conference crumbles again at the end of a game.
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Lockett has to be going on his 6th year
Odd comment.  Lockett's a junior and these dorks have only been in the league two years. 
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Never would've guessed our defense would lose this game for us. Wow

And like that, the Cats are bowl eligible. 

POSTGAME
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No bowl for the first  time in 9 years.  Unless you count Baylor. Our super bowl.

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