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ksusouthpaw
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Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Ok, we can go back and forth about smoking pot, should it be tested, etc. But here's the bigger issue for me that I see.
Every team has rules and expectations. You are expected to go to class. You are expected to hit workouts. You are expected to be in the gym, on the field, etc. Like it or not, there is a rule against smoking pot. It's there. Everyone knows about it.
So, to me, for someone who repeatedly flunks a drug test, the concern is not really whether or not they smoke weed. The concern to me is that they have been caught and repeatedly refuse to meet expectations of the program and school. What if a player just decides he's not going to go to practice. Just decides not to show up. He gets suspended. And then he does it again and he gets booted. Would people be screaming about how stupid it is to kick a kid off the team for not meeting team expectations?
You know the rules about pot when you sign up. There are about 100 ways to skirt those rules and not get caught. And you are generally given a free pass for the first time you break them. But once you get caught, in my humble opinion, if you continue to choose to defy the rules, it's not so much about you smoking weed as much as it is your unwillingness to give a crap about how the consequences affect the rest of us. You don't have to like the rules, but they are rules. And if you don't give a crap about the consequences, and how those consequences will affect your team, then I don't want you on my team. If you are willing to get suspended and hurt our team because you don't want to go to class; or you don't want to hit workouts; or because you like to smoke pot, then you probably don't give a crap about what the rest of us are trying to accomplish. And I'm OK with you being shown the door.
So, in the end, it's not about smoking pot to me. It's about being unwilling to recognize that there is something bigger then yourself at stake.
/end rant
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Correct. Again.
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Well done
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Bingo!
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+1000000000000
That sounds exactly like the message that the MBB program is trying to send...
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Boom goes the dynamite!
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Thebalo
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Too bad GPC hasn't changed to the facebook style forums of tMB yet, or you'd have some "likes" from this one.
Same basic post was made a couple times in the Malek thread, but got lost in the shuffle of rage.
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Ding, ding, ding!! We have a winner!!!
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gapwedge
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spot on
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Re: Can we look past the pot smoking and look at the bigger issue... Reply
Right ON !!!!, Southpaw.. Well written and you covered the based of what is expected. If one can't follow some basic guidelines, you're out !!! Nothing wrong with following rules. Go, Cats !!!
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Basketball ambivalence.. Situation improving.
Earlier today I met five buddies for lunch in a big sports bar in Williamsburg, Virginia. We are all former federal investigators and all are Vietnam combat vets. One, an African American, is a former pole vaulter at Oregon, and all of us played organized sports at some level.
While enjoying beer and steaks, Arizona and Michigan were playing basketball, while alongside a re-run of Ohio State and Michigan State was airing. I couldn't help but notice that all of us were mostly paying attention to a football game wherein the the outcome was known rather than a basketball game involving the country's top collegiate team; so I conducted an informal poll as to who routinely (often) watches basketball, college or pro? Not a single hand went up; nor did I raise mine.
As background, I went to KSU in the late 60's, and Jack Hartman was our coach. In four years, I did not miss a single game where I could help it, and afterwards I closely followed the career of Lon Kruger. Then, imperceptibly, I found that I did not care as much anymore about basketball, and although I read the morning paper (wherever ) to see how my school was doing on the hardwoods, it did not pain me to see the 'Cats lose as much as if it was a football game--when a loss could send me into a deep funk.
Now, why do some guys of my generation often shun watching basketball--especially pro ball? My non-empircal study today reflects that most of us feel the team-centered, play-by -the-rules basketball we knew and played in our youth has morphed into something else altogether. And although I can't quite put my finger on the precise reasons for our ambivalence, most of us believe that individual "hot-doggism" today has taken over in some corners. Further, there are too many renegade coaches who specialize in exhibiting gross behavioral conduct that of course leads to rude and obnoxious behavior in their players. ("Character and fair play be damed; let's win this f...... ball game.")
So after reading the above, you might ask this old and proud K-Stater, "Well, now what did you think of Frank Martin?"
Easy answer, in three parts... I still can't believe he was hired at Kansas State. I am thrilled he is gone. And I sincerely hope his like never again darkens our doorstep.
And best wishes to Coach oscar Weber and his young team. A gentleman is now back at the helm, and I'm again watching K-State basketball.
"Tramaine Thompson on QB situation regarding predictability: "It's frustrating because we know Daniel can do both and we haven't shown it."
"Tramaine Thompson on Sams: "I don't know if he made an appearance in the 2nd half. To leave all that talent on the sideline is upsetting."