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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 11, 2011, 07:03:04 PM »

Meh. Frank just played the game, but not well. Had the ear of a reporter, probably a bit ticked at Currie and the situation in Miami and he brings out the wrong talking point, or at least a poor version of it. In another year things will be a lot different.

If Frank happens to have his worst year next year that contract negotiation is going to be awkward as hell.  That contract provision about renegotiating a full year after the benchmark was reached is very weird and frankly I'm a bit stunned that Katz agreeing to it.

Yeah, that's a bit...odd.

Frank: "I met one of my requirements. Let's talk raise."
John: "You also just finished 7-11 in conference and lost in the 2nd round of the NIT."

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 11, 2011, 06:57:26 PM »

Nick Wright has done a good job clown suiting us this afternoon.

'Grats Frank. 

Cliffs

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 11, 2011, 05:20:13 PM »

I think it's a mix of Frank being a bit upset Miami hasn't at least reached out, making a bad PR move and getting too honest in an interview, and making a poor play to get a contract negotiation .

I've never been ignorant enough to think Frank doesn't at least have mild interest in the Miami job. I may be ignorant, though, in believing that just because Frank has interest in the Miami job it doesn't mean he hates Manhattan/K-State.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: late night in the phog

« on: April 08, 2011, 05:54:16 PM »

lol

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 08, 2011, 01:43:54 PM »

King wrote that?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 07, 2011, 07:35:52 PM »

Meek sounds upset.

I'm not.

Well that's good.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM »

Meek sounds upset.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Don't really know where to put this...

« on: April 07, 2011, 03:47:15 PM »

a wizard's curse

Mizzou mediocris pro infinitio

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 08:08:26 PM »

I take back my earlier 30% comment.  Less, much less.

So, you're thinking there's less chance he leaves?

Less than 10%.

Threat level moved down to green.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 04:53:35 PM »

After these stories, it's going to break my effing heart if he goes.  I'd just be really disappointed.

I'll punch a child if Frank leaves. This would make me hate Bill even more. Don't do this to Bill Frank, he doesn't deserve even more SF hate.

20 candidates, seems like a lot no

It's a search firm.

If anything, that helps us, IMO.  My understanding of these search firms is that they like to keep it within their network to propagate business.  For example, a coach or agent gets affiliated with a search firm, and like an MLS listing, they become part of the network.  Generally, if you're not a part of the network, you don't get suggested as a candidate.  It gives coaches and agents a reason to affiliate with that search firm.

If there's a list of 20 people, and Frank hasn't been contacted, it says to me that Miami is using a search firm Frank or Katz isn't affiliated with, and the interim AD is probably going to go with the safe play and just use the search firm all of the way.

Also, if they're saying they want this wrapped up in a month, GMAFB.  This shouldn't take more than a week or two if they had their cac together.

Plus you'd think about half are either unrealistic dream candidates or last ditch, "we've struck out with everyone else" candidates.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 04:18:46 PM »

Frank Martin's agent says no contact with Miami
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BY KELLIS ROBINETT
The Wichita Eagle

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/06/1796618/martins-agent-says-no-contact.html#ixzz1ImQq3X00

MANHATTAN — Frank Martin continues to be mentioned as a likely candidate for the open basketball coaching position at Miami, but as of Wednesday afternoon his agent had not been contacted by Hurricanes officials.

"I have talked to no one from Miami," said Richard Katz, of KMG Sports Management. "I hear the same rumors as everyone else, but no one has called me about Frank."

During a Tuesday interview with Tim Brando on a nationally syndicated radio show, Martin said no one had contacted him, either.

"No one's called me, Tim. I've got a great job. I work with great people," Martin said. "... I'm at a great place. And if people want to throw my name out there, I look at that as a compliment and I look at that as being lucky and fortunate that I'm in a good place right now and that people out there respect what we've done here."

But Martin, who has turned down interview requests through K-State officials, went on to tell Brando: "In this business, it's hard to ever sit back and say, 'Never say never,' " when asked about the possibility of accepting a new job.

Miami interim athletic director Tony Hernandez has told media in south Florida that he is looking at 20 candidates to replace Frank Haith, who was recently hired at Missouri, and would prefer to make his selection in less than a month.

He mentioned no specific names, but has hired the Atlanta-based consulting firm, Parker Executive Search, to assist in the hiring process. N.C. State hired Mark Gottfried on Tuesday.

Katz said he had not been contacted by any search firms on behalf of Miami, either.

Another possibility for Martin right now is a contract extension with the Wildcats. He agreed to a new contract in March 2010 that pays him an average of $1.55 million a year through 2015.

By guiding K-State to a third-place finish in the Big 12 this season, tied with Texas A&M, Martin has met the criteria in his contract to become eligible for an extension.

According to contract language, Martin and K-State athletic director John Currie are supposed to "agree to negotiate in good faith from April 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012 a modification, extension, or revised employment agreement."

If they fail to reach an agreement during that negotiation period, the amount of Martin's buyout, which is currently $1 million, drops to $500,000.

K-State athletic director John Currie could choose to bump up that timetable to put an end to the speculation surrounding Martin. But Katz said he has not spoken with Currie about a new deal, saying that is not a current priority for Martin.

"Any coach with an existing contract, whether it's Frank or anyone else, they're always eligible for a contract extension," Katz said. "At this point in time, I have not talked to Kansas State about a new contract.

"Frank, when he signed his new contract last year, was very pleased with it and thankful. He's a loyal guy, and he likes Kansas State. At this moment there is nothing else going on."

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/06/1796618/martins-agent-says-no-contact.html#ixzz1ImQwyiMh

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 02:38:27 PM »

I didn't get to hear all of it. Heard his opinion on the Haith hire (Doesn't know him personally, recruited decent at Miami, needs to hire a solid staff) and got out of my car. Got back in and he was talking pretty generically about the twins, Selby, and Robinson.

See 2011 thread

Awesome. Thanks

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 02:24:01 PM »

I didn't get to hear all of it. Heard his opinion on the Haith hire (Doesn't know him personally, recruited decent at Miami, needs to hire a solid staff) and got out of my car. Got back in and he was talking pretty generically about the twins, Selby, and Robinson.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 06, 2011, 02:16:53 PM »

Was he the guy on 810 this afternoon? Heard him talking about some of the KSU 2011 cruits.

Eric Bossi

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 05, 2011, 08:19:32 PM »

can anyone read the insider rumor on espn?  any new info or other candidates not mentioned here?

Update: UCF head coach Donnie Jones and Florida State assistant Stan Jones are two others rumored to be candidates for the Miami opening.

Donnie Jones jumped out to a quick start in his first season at UCF and led the Knights to a 21-12 record. But as the Orlando Sentinel points out, there is some question as to how much better of a job the Miami job would be. He already has a good thing going at UCF and is set to return sophomore guard Marcus Jordan and sophomore forward Keith Clanton.

Stan Jones has previous experience coaching at Miami and could be a viable candidate for the job, having served as a Hurricanes assistant under Leonard Hamilton from 1996-2000. He then followed Hamilton to the Washington Wizards for one season before joining him again when he was hired at FSU.

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As we explained earlier, Kansas State coach Frank Martin appears to be a perfect fit for the Miami (Fla.) coaching vacancy (which should open up when the news of Frank Haith to Missouri becomes official). However, is it really the best fit for Martin? Eric Bossi of Rivals makes an interesting point that while Martin is by far the most qualified, Miami may not be a better job than K-State. Also, with what Martin has established in Manhattan, would he want to take a job that clearly does not have a similarly excited fan base.

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Adam Zagoria of ZagsBlog.com tweeted late Sunday that, according to a Division-I source, "Miami is Frank Martin's 'dream job.'"

Sun Sentinel sports writer Dave Hyde writes this morning that the Kansas State coach is "the obvious, first rumor at the new guy."

Hyde adds: "On one level he fits the bill: A Miami guy, a Cuban-American, a coach who's won at Kansas State. There also are some questions about how he carries himself and runs a program to be answered."

One potential sticking point could be whether the Miami administration is willing to go from someone like Frank Haith, viewed as an all-around likable person, to a more fiery and intense coach like Martin.

- Joe Kaiser

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Morris Twins break out of handcuffs, almost out of Bill's grasp

« on: April 05, 2011, 04:54:07 PM »

http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?4222-Selby-gone&p=50649#post50649

They should be ashamed of themselves.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 05, 2011, 04:47:13 PM »

I think this is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?  This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) right?


Can't anyone renegotiate at any time ever?

Yeah, but it doesn't mean something comes out of it. This way the contract either changes someway in negotiations or his buyout is cut. That is unless Currie and Martin meet and both agree the contract is fine as is and move on.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Between the Lines with BITB

« on: April 05, 2011, 03:24:57 PM »

BITB just destroyed the ku whining point that the field should be shrunk or less mid-majors should be in.

"The best team in the country won.  Did you see those guys?  There is NBA talent all over that team.  Do you think the Morris twins were going to go inside and score on UCONN?  I don't think so."

BHKUF: Well Butler isn't one of the teams I have a problem with being in the tournament

I wonder which one he does have a problem with....

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Morris Twins break out of handcuffs, almost out of Bill's grasp

« on: April 05, 2011, 01:45:46 PM »

@JayhawkSlant JayhawkSlant Staff
From what I've been told, Josh Selby is in Baltimore with his family. Not in Las Vegas like reports indicate #kubball

Then...

@theprogramkc The Program
The Program has confirmed from people in Vegas earlier reports that Josh Selby IS at Impact Basketball working... http://fb.me/Fh3nix3R

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 05, 2011, 01:38:38 PM »

But here's the deal, did Yow and Williams not get along because Yow wanted more wins, considering that Gary hasn't produced all that much since his national title run, and he's noted to have gotten lazy on recruiting, and gotten militant about the whole AAU situation?   Or is it because she's just a b_tch?   Now back in the day, I was around quite a few D1 women coaches, and I will say that most of them were psychotic b_tches (which is way beyond the typical a$$hole you get out of their male counterparts) . . . so maybe that carries forward into female athletic administrators as well.

I'd say it's a little bit of both. Also, Yow coached back in the 70s and 80s, so she'd fit into your mold of psycho bitch coach, but now she happens to be an AD.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 05, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »

NC State related:

Dear Wolfpack Family,

I am writing to share with you the status of the search for our new head coach for men's basketball. There have been telephone conversations with successful coaches that did not develop into meetings -- sometimes because we did not wish to pursue those coaches further and sometimes because the coach involved is happy where he is.

The conversations have been candid. We have not tried to sugarcoat the challenge of rebuilding our basketball program. Our absence for 5 consecutive years from the NCAA Tournament was noted by each coach as evidence that the program is in poor shape and will require a special effort to rebuild.

Finding a coach with the fight and fire to do this job has been a challenge. That said, we will find an excellent college coach who shares the vision of what State Basketball can become and is up for the challenge.

I realize there are multiple rumors surfacing about the nature of the search on websites and in newspapers. Once our new coach is hired, I will be in a position to bring perspective to a number of those rumors. But, right now, we need to remain focused on finding a talented collegiate coach who is a fighter, full of confidence and appreciation for the opportunity to lead our basketball program back to national prominence.

That will happen in spite of those who believe this cannot occur.

Wolfpack Basketball is destined for a revival. We will accept no less. Please keep the faith while we continue the search. Your emails and text messages of support have meant everything to me. I am blessed to be your AD.

In the Spirit of the Pack,

Debbie

She just sounds awful at her job

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Hoops Status/Wall/Twitter/Facebook Post Thread

« on: April 05, 2011, 11:08:13 AM »

Jpullz0 Jacob Pullen
Finally on this plane about to take off I was gone do Dallas for a day but rather just be in manhattan

 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 04, 2011, 05:15:33 PM »

AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Makes me a little nervous, where I wasn't before. 

Seems like a lie. 

Why would he lie?

For me it's the word "yet".  Makes me think he's expecting/wanting to get contacted.   

He's smart enough to expect at least contact.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Favorite moment from the Frank era?

« on: April 04, 2011, 04:24:13 PM »

That time where Denis couldn't hit a FT in a big game, then after missing the first of two, Denis looked at Frank and Frank made him laugh.  Then Denis hit the second FT.   

The smile on their faces. OMG

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)

« on: April 04, 2011, 04:17:04 PM »

AKuperstein Adam Kuperstein
by JBBauersfeld
Kansas State coach Frank Martin told our sister station Telemundo51 that he has not been contacted by Miami about coaching job yet

Frank is probably just giddy with anticipation for that phone to ring and hear South Beach on the other line.