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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Has this championship changed how you either think or act regarding KSU MBB?

« on: March 13, 2019, 12:53:21 PM »

I'll be satisfied (which shouldn't mean anything to anyone else) when we've stopped being the "surprise" team of the year, picked to finish middle-of-the-pack in the Big XII and go into a year with the actual expectation as being either the team to beat or one of the teams to beat.

That goes for football as well.

To that end, I don't care who the coach is, what he looks like or what his/her demeanor is (almost). If they can get us past the conference championship once a generation is good enough for me/us mentality, then I like them.

Quess you are saying that you are satisfied with our basketball program since thats exactly what we did this year.  Good for you.

Try reading it again but slowly this time.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Has this championship changed how you either think or act regarding KSU MBB?

« on: March 11, 2019, 11:30:16 AM »

I'll be satisfied (which shouldn't mean anything to anyone else) when we've stopped being the "surprise" team of the year, picked to finish middle-of-the-pack in the Big XII and go into a year with the actual expectation as being either the team to beat or one of the teams to beat.

That goes for football as well.

To that end, I don't care who the coach is, what he looks like or what his/her demeanor is (almost). If they can get us past the conference championship once a generation is good enough for me/us mentality, then I like them.

A single year does not define consistency.

That other school down the road from us goes into each season in the discussion concerning whether or not they can win another NC. Similar to OU in football. Conference championships, particularly in MBB, are nice (not to me but to the national media) but the prize is the NC.

We should, and I believe can, be at that level.

A conference championship once in pretty much a generation is not really where I think we can be.

Weren't we picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12?  Doesn't seem middle-of-pack to me.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Has this championship changed how you either think or act regarding KSU MBB?

« on: March 11, 2019, 10:52:16 AM »

I'll be satisfied (which shouldn't mean anything to anyone else) when we've stopped being the "surprise" team of the year, picked to finish middle-of-the-pack in the Big XII and go into a year with the actual expectation as being either the team to beat or one of the teams to beat.

That goes for football as well.

To that end, I don't care who the coach is, what he looks like or what his/her demeanor is (almost). If they can get us past the conference championship once a generation is good enough for me/us mentality, then I like them.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: General NFL thread: 2018 LA v New England for it all.

« on: March 11, 2019, 10:31:02 AM »

AB going to Raiders.  I'd be more worried about this if they had someone to throw to him.  Glad Raiders and not Indy.  I see AB getting super frustrated in short time and causing turmoil again within that organization.  I predict he and Gruden with clash.

That'll piss him off even more - he won't even be the first in that probably long and growing line.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: KU Basketball is Hurting

« on: March 06, 2019, 12:29:27 PM »

My perfect (almost) scenario would be (a) don't win the Big XII (check), (b) lose in the 1st round of the Conference tournament, (c) lose in the 1st round of the NCAA, (d) NCAA comes down and crushes their smokes for AD violations.

You'd be able hear the wailing in China.

God what a great year that'd be.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official: New Uniforms Dream and Info Thread

« on: March 05, 2019, 10:18:33 AM »

Bring these back pls.

Tom

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So were the teams!

Is that what we want to define as throwback? Throwback to what - futility U?

That letter arrangement is atrocious.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Makol Mawien

« on: March 05, 2019, 09:31:16 AM »

his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").

KSURFC8 rockets into my awareness as a giant dumbfuck.

Ooooh. Please tell me, if you've even noticed, how many time he's tried to back into the basket and just gotten used, lost control of the ball or committed some other atrocious t.o.. I watched at least twice, possibly three times, last night when Barry passed the ball directly to him down low, hit him right in the rocks he calls hands and the ball almost immediately went on the floor but not in his possession. and no, he can't jump worth a crap particularly for someone his size and his position. Unless he's left completely alone and/or untouched, how many times have you seen him miss or screw up a dunk from underneath the basket? Too many times.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Makol Mawien

« on: March 04, 2019, 10:12:47 PM »

Mak is FINE.  Everyone shut up about it.

You must be watching someone else.

He's got hands of freaking stone. He can't turn and shoot, can't take a pass and go straight up, when he tries to back his man up he usually gets backed down and his subsequent jump shot as about the same altitude as Bill Lambier or Dennis Rodman (about 1").


We're almost playing 4 on 5 on offense every time.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.

« on: December 12, 2018, 12:47:45 PM »

I suppose if we had one we could ride, hard or not, two things would have happened;
1. We would too and;
2. Bill might still be our coach

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Kansas State Football / Re: Win the Dang Day.

« on: December 12, 2018, 12:25:09 PM »

As opposed to
"keep chopping wood"
"rowing the boat"
"just get better each day"

They all have them. It's up to us to keep them from getting out of control.

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Kansas State Football / Re: I WILIL GIVE THE STUPID NORTH DAKOTA DORK A SHOT, I GUESS. WHATEVER.

« on: December 12, 2018, 12:20:33 PM »

All you f**ks that want to dump your season tickets and parking passes, I'll take as many as you can supply as long as they're decent seats. East side, upper level, you got what you paid for and good luck dumping them. Keep the end zone seats as well. West and East side lower level. Let's talk or just tell me where I can pick them up.

When we come running out of the locker room sporting an all black (Ft Riley Day would be good) and a veritable plethora of alternative unis on other Sats, I'll be ecstatic. One more year of the 1986 Dallas Cowboy throwbacks would have made me puke. I'll be sooooo happy when that look is the throwback. However unlike a lot of you "if it ain't HCBS, I ain't playin'" knuckleheads, I'd have still gone and watched.

Think about it for a minute. We weren't coming close to maximizing our scholarships, players were running away like the place was on fire and we stood a good chance of being out coached by the Mad Hatter if we stood pat. What choice did we have and Brent just wasn't coming. Not until his son graduates and if you figure it, that will be about the time that this contract will either be renewed or he'll be fired.

I'm stoked for the future and that starts now.

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Kansas State Football / Re: LHC Bill Snyder

« on: December 12, 2018, 11:53:52 AM »

Bill has gone from acting like a child, to being pretty cool about this whole thing. Listening to him speak at the Football and Band Banquets, his attitude was both positive and reflective.

Makes me wonder if Bill is open to being an asset to the Football program. (Visiting with requits, calling HS coaches to maintain relationships and bridge ties to Klieman, and just being Bill)

So keep Sean?

He's retired. He needs to act like it and let the new coach do things his own way. Get out of the way and stay that way unless asked/requested.

As for Sean, if he's willing to re-dedicate himself to making our special teams as special as they had been and will swear that he'll be completely loyal to the new coach, the staff, the players and the AD, then he can stay. Any doubt, he's gone.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Makol Mawein

« on: February 27, 2018, 10:21:03 PM »

To be fair, Stokes has been far worse than Mawein

Really? I missed Stokes' two travels, pitiful attempt at a dunk and a pass that was lazy beyond description and ended up costing us the game. Please show me what anyone on our team did worse than that (you can exclude the HC only because he didn't wear a  uniform).

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Kansas State Football / Re: OFFICIAL ALEX DELTON AMENDS THREAD FOR NON-BELIEVERS AND SQUAWKS

« on: December 27, 2017, 03:57:43 PM »

Having your QB, that's already had multiple concussions, as your primary runner is not a plan for long-term (or possibly even short-term) success.

He's going to get hit, hit hard and possibly hit dirty. Defenses know he's one hit away from another concussion and if you don't think they'll try to put him out of a game, your nuts.

RBs will not want to come to KSU. Why should they.

TE's will not want to come to KSU unless they enjoy being the sixth OL.

WO's will not want to come to KSU unless they think the best way to the NFL is through receiving punts and KO's.

Good to great QB's will not want to come to KSU and get abused the way we abuse our QBs.

I'm sorry, I like Delton and think he's a hell of a competitor but he's one significant hit away from having his playing career ended. True leadership by our AD and Athletic Department would question what we're doing to our QBs and as the HC, LHC Bill Snyder needs to answer those questions.

A win last night was way better than a loss (duh!) but you seriously have to ask yourselves whether or not the way we play is really a good direction for the program. I don't think it is.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean

« on: December 27, 2017, 03:47:17 PM »

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO WHAT WE DID
LHC Bill Snyder closed out his 26th season as Kansas State head coach last night, coming back with four unanswered touchdowns in the second half to beat UCLA 35-17 in the Cactus Bowl.  The former Iowa assistant is godlike in Manhattan, having built the program from quite literally nothing; attendance was so low before he arrived at KSU in 1989 that the program was threatened with moving to D-IAA or disbanding altogether.  The stadium is named after his family.

With his future as coach in question due to his age, it's Snyder's family that's a bit of a problem now.  Snyder has a perpetual contract, allowing him four years on the same terms going forward.  In other words, there is no negotiation pushing the issue of Snyder's retirement.  Snyder has done nothing to put his job in jeopardy, and could not be fired even if he did -- HIS FAMILY'S NAME IS ON THE STADIUM -- and he holds the absolute right to remain in the job for as long as he wants.  And Snyder has made it clear that he wants his son to have the head job when he retires.

Sean Snyder is the Kansas State associate head coach and special teams coordinator.  He started his collegiate football career as a punter at Iowa, moved to Kansas State with his dad in 1990, and was an all-American punter for Kansas State in 1993.  He has been an assistant on staff since 1994.  Sean Snyder has never called a play, and never been a serious candidate to leave the school.  As Sam Mellinger at the Kansas City Star pointed out last month, he would not be a serious candidate to be a head coach at any other program.

The previous athletics administration tried to short circuit the Snyder succession plan by hiring then-Colorado defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt as a coach in waiting.  Leavitt's resume would make him a more obvious choice for KSU: He's a former Wildcat assistant, he essentially built the USF program from scratch, and while he's had his share of scandal, his on-field track record is excellent.  Snyder would have none of it, not because Leavitt is unqualified or deficient, but because his name isn't Snyder.  Of course, there is another former Kansas State assistant on the market who has called plenty of plays and won a few more games than Sean Snyder.  Again, there is no sign that Snyder would allow Bret Bielema to take over should he step aside.  On Signing Day last week, Snyder was noncommittal about his future, clearly indicating that he'll wait until the coaching carousel has stopped long enough that Kansas State would have no choice but to promote Sean.

LHC Bill Snyder announced Wednesday he is a definite maybe to be back at Kansas State next season.

In other words, a continuing example of how not to run a college football program on National Signing Day. Or perhaps more accurately -- a textbook example of how to take out that same program at the knees.

"I'm in the process [of deciding]," Snyder told reporters. "It will be a little bit."

The guess here is that Snyder -- the game's oldest coach -- absolutely knows whether he is coming back for a 27th season. But for reasons both petty and stubborn, he's stringing out his announcement.

Better for his agenda. Bad for K-State football. Really bad.

I'm not saying this is Iowa's situation.  For one, Brian Ferentz has now called some plays.  For another, Brian Ferentz did coach somewhere else for at least a few years.  But there is little doubt that Kirk Ferentz has the same unbreakable bargaining position as LHC Bill Snyder -- Ferentz's created more by contract than reputation, but that contract was built on twenty years of stability and success -- and the same end goal.  Frankly, the same candidates at Kansas State would likely be in play at Iowa; both Leavitt and Bielema have ties to the program, though Leavitt's are obviously not as pronounced as having a Tiger Hawk tattoo.

I asked Twitter one day earlier this month if it would be OK with Ferentz retiring in January if it meant Brian Ferentz got the job:


The most common response was something like "Sure, because at least he could be fired if he was unsuccessful."  And that seems to be where Kansas State is headed at some point in the next few years, a move not toward the best candidate but toward some semblance of accountability from a coach for the first time in years.  And man, that's an uninspired reason to make a hire.  But watch KSU closely over the next few weeks (and, if Snyder doesn't leave, the next few years), because it could be a look at our future.



https://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-news/2017/12/2473/its-not-plagiarism-if-you-link-to-it-is-in-waiting

Incredibly well written/said.

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Kansas State Football / Re: So it’s Cactus Bowl day

« on: December 26, 2017, 10:14:34 PM »

If there's anyone out there that still thinks Sean Snyder is ready to be a HC, they need to seek immediate therapy.

How exactly is that related to this game?

Every time (and I'll admit it's not been many since we're not wearing baby blue and yellow) they show HCBS, there's sonny boy yacking in his ear. Since each time it's not a kick-off or punt, it's pretty evident who's calling the game.

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Kansas State Football / Re: So it’s Cactus Bowl day

« on: December 26, 2017, 10:12:47 PM »

Cats are going to pull this out.

That may be true and I hope it is but that doesn't make it any less of a piss poorly coached and called game by our inept and bordering on incompetent coaching staff.

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Kansas State Football / Re: So it’s Cactus Bowl day

« on: December 26, 2017, 10:04:56 PM »

If there's anyone out there that still thinks Sean Snyder is ready to be a HC, they need to seek immediate therapy.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)

« on: November 29, 2017, 10:11:08 AM »

I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

You don't think that same logic applies, at least in part, as to why we can't seem to bring in any quality OC/DCs during this version? That and of course the fact (a little speculative I know) that HCBS can't seem to find it in himself (or his DIR of Football Operations) to look another grown man in the eye and tell him that he's fired.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Sean is not head coach material

« on: November 27, 2017, 01:29:00 PM »

Assuming you believe a head coach is more of a CEO than a day to day "coach", a case could easily be made that Sean is much more qualified than Brent.  I'm not advocating one way or another, just sayin'

That's a good thought. Plus, both the OC and DC coming to work for Sean would know that they will likely have a ton of autonomy in their role.

There's a scenario. Sean gets the HC position, fires Dimel (among others) and hires his Dad as the OC.

sean will have one coach on his staff that brent won’t and his name is bill. could complicate things for sean

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Kansas State Football / Re: Sean is not head coach material

« on: November 27, 2017, 12:56:22 PM »

Plus, you know that TONS of prospective assistant coaches will want NOTHING to do with Sean after his Iowa State game sideline antics.

Not sure this is true. Agree with it or not, Sean was visibly standing up for his players and team. If you watch at least some of the video, HCBS was standing there watching and wasn't making a single move to intercede or tell him to calm down. Implicitly, he agreed with his son's behavior. I'm guessing that as long as he doesn't do anything remotely similar to his subordinates, any assistants considering coming to work for him would have no problems with Sat.

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Kansas State Football / Re: It's Venables

« on: November 27, 2017, 10:52:36 AM »

Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?

I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.

You make some very broad assumptions that I just don't think are true. Unless you can prove otherwise.
1. If it's only perceived and not reality (i.e. recruiting), then it's not so much a problem with the program as it is a problem with and for the individual. There are other reasons besides Manhattan that keeps us from getting a larger pool of "better" recruits to attend KSU.
2. You are absolutely correct that a "huge" portion of our fan base (you should have mentioned a huge portion of the college football community in general) believes that what HCBS has accomplished at KSU is special but you cannot, without some statistical data to back your argument up, state that that same "huge" percentage would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State."

Lastly, outside of Leavitt and Venables, who are the remainder of the "number" that qualify under your criteria and that we'd actually hire? Patterson, Stoops, Mangino, Bennett? Nope, nope, nope and nope. What else you got?

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Kansas State Football / Re: Sean is not head coach material

« on: November 27, 2017, 10:26:53 AM »

He might be more qualified to be KSU's HC than its OC.

In terms of CEO style, I can see that.

But in terms of the normal route (i.e. GA, position coach, and offensive/defense coordinator position), he doesn't meet the basic criteria.

We're not talking about normal here.

"Abby Normal" Greatest comedy ever! Might actually more applicable than we'd like to admit.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Sean is not head coach material

« on: November 27, 2017, 10:07:13 AM »

Stoops and mangino are available.  As well as Bert and Bennett after the last round of firings.  (Arkansas and Arizona St.).

You (and a couple of others apparently) missed my point. HCBS brought with him or hired people he knew to fill critical positions here at KSU. Who are those same types of people that Sean would know or could bring in? Almost his entire "coaching" life has been in and around KSU. IMO, his ability to hire the same caliber of people that his dad did when he arrived here, is severely limited. So again, unless he's willing to basically, not totally, work with what's left to him, he'll be handicapped from the outset. Not something I'd like to see. For him but more importantly for us.

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Kansas State Football / Re: It's Venables

« on: November 26, 2017, 10:56:46 PM »

I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.

Winning a 2nd NC and seeing your asking price go to somewhere between $4+M and $7+M can make a lot of hell tolerable.

I'm afraid that at some point soon, if we've not already reached it, we've priced ourselves right out of the market for him.

But on the upside, Schiano's probably available at a good price. Might even be willing to take a defensive position coaches job first. Hmmmm?

Brent, no one is going to pay you that much, don't be silly. Also how do you not know Schiano is Ohio State's DC, don't you guys have meetings or something?

Rumor has it that he was the one with the camera. He'll be available to anyone soon enough.