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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 25, 2012, 12:32:22 AM »

and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.

But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".

If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands.  Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.

If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.

who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"?  Fitz? 

to repeat:

bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this.  he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance.  the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract).  But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out.  if he goes out that's how he will leave it.

I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder?  I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.

IMO, this means Fitz is actively campaigning against Currie, and he doesn't care at this point what Currie does to him.  You don't tell your thousands of subscribers that there is a rift between Currie and Snyder unless you want them to pick a side, especially with his particular clientele. 

You want to get fans to revolt against our AD?  Tell them that Snyder doesn't like him.  He'll be wearing that Scarlet A until the day he leaves.

I find it interesting that Manbeck openly criticizes the KSU AD the same day.  It's like everyone that's upset with Currie just decided to come out firing on a day where Frank looked fantastic on CBS.

Did you read my question or just quote the wrong post?  Trim had the right answer, I didn't ask why Fitz is mad, its common sense.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: % chance that frank is gone?

« on: March 25, 2012, 12:29:46 AM »

Well I was going to go about 20% until I saw that the athletic department has people planting negative stories about Frank.  Now I have emotionally said my goodbyes to the staff.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 25, 2012, 12:24:38 AM »

Has Fitz mentioned Currie blocking Leavitt before today? What an ass.

I hadn't seen it here or there that's why I asked, then again I only read like three threads on the football board.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 25, 2012, 12:19:45 AM »

and the bill v. currie stuff has been going around forever.

But not out in the open with someone "inside" saying specifically that it's "not good".

If Fitz is going on his board saying that, now it's common knowledge to thousands.  Obviously, it's going around via email because, hey, I got the email.

If the Currie vs. Frank thing is the Pacific theater in WW2, the Enola Fitz just dropped one Hiroshima.

who the eff are you talking about that's "inside"?  Fitz? 

to repeat:

bill is a control freak who doesn't want any meddling but ultimately he isn't going to get worked up with stuff like this.  he probably does hate currie but his point of reference is the wefald regime where he was the compliance.  the fact that his name is NOW getting drug into this is a fantastic indicator that frank is staying or at least working against currie for some reason (the only reason conceivably being to get a new/better contract).  But, frank is rough ridin' weird, maybe he's just burning this rough rider down on his way out.  if he goes out that's how he will leave it.

I'm not understanding what Frank burning the mumped down has to do with Fitz talking about a rift between Currie and Snyder?  I'm fairly sure that Frank doesn't give two shits about what Fitz posts on his message board.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 11:08:12 PM »

Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.

Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything.  Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new?  I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving.  Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.

You think Gopowercat does open records requests?  LOL, ok.  This is about Fitz not getting scoops Currie probably restricting their access to some info and also not just casually leaking stuff like previous regimes.

of course not, I didn't say that either, but he is clearly pissed about the open records blocks, he's made multiple references to it the last 24 hours

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 11:06:23 PM »

or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving. 

LOL, no.  It's about himself.  It always is.

We need all the foot soldiers in the war against Currie we can get, whatever the reason.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 10:56:58 PM »

Fitz is on our side, and I can't believe it. Well I should, no matter how much of an eff up he is he still likes successful athletic teams.

Fitz seems unbelievably pissed, and is spilling everything.  Is this stuff about friction with Old Ballz and Fitz stating that Currie blocked Leavitt new?  I don't know if Fitz' anger is mostly about the open records blocks or the EMAW in him not wanting to see Frank leaving.  Either way he knows the best way to get the tucks to turn is to talk about Currie pissing off Synder.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 09:55:01 PM »

  leave her out of this

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 02:38:54 PM »

How should we feel about him denying the USC stuff without really denying it? I'm still worried 

He didn't come close to denying it, he was closer to confirming it than denying it.  The only thing we can take from that was remotely positive was he gave the appearance that he thought Currie's hands were tied with Jamar.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 02:34:42 PM »

not wearing the K-State pin or Ft. Rileyo pin for his flair.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Official Coaching Search 2012, and John Currie plane/car/bus tracker Thread

« on: March 24, 2012, 02:29:22 PM »

I'm all for the bobby gonzalez experiment. The tucks would all be expecting another fiery brown skinned crazy man and get hit with a snowcoat. I doubt he would be tempted to steal anything from the manhattan mall, so its all good.

lol, his batshit crazy sister is also a great side bene.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 12:37:13 PM »

If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told.  Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.

Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst.  That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.

Tennessee was the UK of the SEC when Pearl was there bad conference or not.

Uh, he won 1 conference championship and had 1 elite 8 in six years.  He'd get run at UK for that.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings

« on: March 24, 2012, 10:11:41 AM »

(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume.

Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight.

I don't think you know what a sociopath is, and I haven't had a drink in months.  I made a mistake and drove drunk.  Doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic.  Keep getting personal, though.  It just reflects poorly on you as a person.

I definitely know what a sociopath is and you are one, but I shouldn't make fun of alcoholism, it isn't funny.  Sorry.

Not even close.  If anything, I care too much about what you guys think of me, and I open myself up too much to your continued abuse.  As for alcoholism, it's not funny, and no, I'm not an alcoholic.  If anything, I'm a pothead, but I haven't smoked or drank in months, like I said.  You are the one who seems to be overly aggressive and a little extra sensitive.  Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you get so personal over a post that merely lists Sagarin/ESPN's top 30 programs of all-time. 

As I said earlier, seek therapy.

 

Only a crazy person would procreate with that nasty ginger thing you call a wife.

stones, glass houses, etc. of course there are several more examples of you melting down and acting foolish.  Should I give you a pass for these incidences because you were drunk/high?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 10:01:21 AM »

If all this nicey nice with the ncaa results in goodwill towards getting pearl out of ncaa hell a year early, it's somehow a good move all told.  Pearl's ceiling is higher imo.

Their major college coaching accomplishments are nearly identical and Pearl had the luxury of coaching against UK when they sucked and the SEC was never as good as the Big 12 was at its worst.  That being said I like Pearl, but there is no evidence that he is a better coach than Frank Martin.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 01:48:44 AM »

It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school.  Pettiness, spite and greed.  And we're the victims.

Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable.  Both of them, equally.

This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.

All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in.  To see this.  It's truly disgusting.

Kidding right?  All Frank has done for the school and the program is make it as relevant as it ever has been.  How do you not realize that all of this butthurt is BECAUSE of what Frank has done for the school and program?

I'm talking about this event occurring right now.  At this moment in time he's being an irrational, vindictive mothereffer.  What is transpiring right now is Frank trying to embarrass Currie.  This has nothing to do with the past.  All that's great with what he has built over the course of the last five years for this school and this program, he would be a complete dumbfuck to kick tom the curb, simply to run off to basketball purgatory in South Carolina so he can act out his vendetta to get back at his boss.  IF he does that, he's every bit of a loathsome, selfish bad person as Currie.

That's not being butthurt, that's the truth.

Lots of negative assumptions.  Just to embarrass Currie?  Really?  Isn't it easier to think he's pissed and wants to move on?  He's going to start over again to embarrass someone?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 01:03:58 AM »

i swear, it is amazing how little insight into the human mind most of you people seem to have.  do any of you really think that making 2.0 million vs 1.5 million has more impact on your daily happiness than working for someone who, at the very least, likes you enough to hire you vs someone you detest and who detests you?

i'll never judge someone for leaving a job due to a hateful relationship.  or even a mildly uncomfortable one.  and i find the idea that excess money is more important than your relationships with coworkers to be laughable in it's idiocy.

 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 12:17:43 AM »

http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin

Haskins doing my light lifting.

Even "light lifting" doesn't mean "laziest piece of crap printed about the subject"

lol

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 12:10:58 AM »

@NCAASportsGuy: Source: Officiating crew for #kubball #ncstate game left cocaine residue & evidence of murdered prostitute in St. Louis hotel suite.  #NCAA

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 12:07:37 AM »

http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2012-03-23/kevin-haskin-so-carolina-job-may-intrigue-martin

Haskins doing my light lifting.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 24, 2012, 12:03:46 AM »

It really sickens me what these two fools have done to our program and school.  Pettiness, spite and greed.  And we're the victims.

Currie and Frank are absolutely despicable.  Both of them, equally.

This a great school, proud basketball program, and tremendously loyal fans and good people that deserve far better than either of these two rough ridin' assholes.

All the support and energy and hard earned financial investment we've all poured in.  To see this.  It's truly disgusting.

Kidding right?  All Frank has done for the school and the program is make it as relevant as it ever has been.  How do you not realize that all of this butthurt is BECAUSE of what Frank has done for the school and program?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 23, 2012, 11:36:47 PM »

If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.

The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless.  We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid.  we also pushed for the practice facility.  To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick.  straight up dick.  It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes.  I would take it as a personal insult.

I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad.   GET. OVER. IT.

Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"

No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF.  Which wont happen.

We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us.  If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.

Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?

Of course we did it for us, and having a program we wanted.  How does that change crap?  we showed the kind of support that there will never be at SC.  It benefited Frank to the tune of 6 figures that none of us (besides Beems) make every year. 

If Frank left for a better program, or more money, I'd reconsider.  But he isn't.  You and I both know SC isn't paying Frank 2 mill.

Limestone, you know full well that if he wins at USC they will support him.  Everything we think about USC was us before Huggins came to town.  We both sat through plenty of conference games with 5000 of our closest friends.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 23, 2012, 11:33:51 PM »

If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.

The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless.  We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid.  we also pushed for the practice facility.  To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick.  straight up dick.  It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes.  I would take it as a personal insult.

I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad.   GET. OVER. IT.

Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"

No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF.  Which wont happen.

We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us.  If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.

Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?

If Frank didn't even wait on his mandatory contract renegotiation with us after April 1, yes.

There is no language in the contract preventing an offer/negotiation before next Sunday.  Besides if he is dead set on leaving what good with a negotiation do if it didn't start with Currie handing in a resignation letter?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 23, 2012, 11:25:57 PM »

Honest question: If Frank takes the SC job, should Katz be fired?

I mean, really, what agent would okay that move?

  is that a joke?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 23, 2012, 11:24:18 PM »

If Frank had left for Miami, I could deal with that, it's home and I understand
If Frank left for a better job, I could deal with that, it's a promotion and I understand
But to leave for a down grade after all the work he's put in and basically start from nothing, it just doesn't make sense, which is probably why it will happen.

The 18-40 year old fanbase of KSU galvanized behind him and supported him regardless.  We went, we got loud, we invented the OOD and FTB (well, one guy did but still) and we pressured Currie to make sure he got paid.  we also pushed for the practice facility.  To take a lateral (at best) move because he has a beef with his boss means he is a dick.  straight up dick.  It means what we did is worth jack crap in his eyes.  I would take it as a personal insult.

I don't care of Currie is to blame for making poor Frank mad.   GET. OVER. IT.

Don't run away to SC because I can guarantee, it will be the last stop on the coaching "ladder"

No one will touch him after this unless he takes SC to a FF.  Which wont happen.

We didn't do that stuff for Frank, we did it for us.  If BTK was a good basketball coach after what we went through the previous 15 years we would have done the same things.

Those of you mad about the fact that this is USC, would you still be mad if they paid him $2 mil before bonuses?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Frank watch 2012:

« on: March 23, 2012, 11:16:02 PM »

MIR, you're rebuttal? 

Don't really have a rebuttal, I don't know what that man is going through at work, nor do I know what his tolerance threshold is.  I don't feel like watching lots of basketball and reading message boards qualifies me to know whether the man is a coward, hypocrite, pussy, etc. that's what message boards are for I guess and that's okay I suppose.

I'm sure we've all made decisions in our lives that people could externally second guess, it really doesn't mean anything.  If he does leave I'll be grateful for the 5 years we had and hope the next 5 will be better.  I won't even be mad at Currie unless it is confirmed that he's a liar like Fitz is hinting at.

also if you put your signature between we will actually be able to see it.