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Kansas State Football / Re: Iowa State

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:02:13 PM »

I'm currently posting this from the ISU student union

  that's me on these losers

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Kansas State Football / Re: Iowa State

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:58:25 AM »

I've been offered free suite tickets to ISU/Iowa game next weekend and immediately turned them down.  I would need to be paid to go see that trash.

Ehh, I might take that if offered cause it's @Iowa and not ISU. That being said, decided to look up that game to see if it's worthwhile, and stumbled upon that the old Cy-Hawk Trophy resides in the Hy-Vee Hall's Iowa Hall of Pride. That is like the most Iowa-y thing I have ever heard of.

Yeah, Iowa City is like 100000x better than lames

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Kansas State Football / Re: iowa state roll call

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:56:08 AM »

What's Hessan Haus?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:47:07 AM »

I do all of my financial crap online, or at least 99%.
Some of you think I should not have a reasonable expectation of privacy?

I've heard this analogy a lot. I think a difference between financial fraud and the photo leaks is that the financial fraud can be undone - you can get your money back. Once these photos are out, they're out. You can't take back what people have already seen.

not to mention the fact that paying bills is something most humans have to do. like have to. i pay bills every month but i've never taken a nude picture of myself with a phone. a bunch of reasons why i suppose but one of them being "what if i lost my phone and people saw it or something". i wouldn't really want that, so i haven't done it. also i think the people that hacked the accounts should get in trouble for the same reason that i think all people who break in and steal should.

C'mon Rick, nobody should have to take responsibility for their own actions, it's 2014.

Take responsibility for their actions? I wasn't aware that photographing yourself nude was illegal or a societal wrong.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:26:32 AM »

I do all of my financial crap online, or at least 99%.
Some of you think I should not have a reasonable expectation of privacy?

They don't think that. It's a crude and simplistic talking point. No one who uses any sort of device thinks that.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:14:00 AM »

Also not to totally dwell on the negative, but I was really happy for you guys for getting that Sunday night game. That was very cool and I should have mentioned it last week, those promos were very sexy!

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:11:50 AM »

I wonder what MIR thinks about the Dodgers shitty attendance.

It's a baseball issue, not a Kansas City issue.

I don't know what their attendance was yesterday but it looked abhorrent. FWIW their capacity percentage is top 5 in the league, I looked it up when I saw that "crowd" they had. Also overall league attendance down.

What I'd like to know it's why is there a seeming apathy in Kansas City with this team? I'm happy for the long suffering fans, but why isn't the bandwagon rolling? Do people hate the Glass family that much? Apparently last week the Chiefs last preseason game had a rating 4x higher than the Royals that night, that seems crazy to me. I'm just shocked that this franchise is in a position that they haven't been in for 3 decades and there isn't more buy in. Everyone loves a Cinderella story in sports.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 09:07:30 AM »

I think people should be more angry with Apple than they are.

The phishing explanation is laughably absurd, someone should get fired for that.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 09:05:43 AM »

People that think there should be no expectation of privacy on anything stored on the INTERNET make me sad inside. Just because it has become a de facto reality doesn't make it right

Thing is, no one really thinks this. It's an easy place to live when we're talking about celebrities and nude photos. If slucat had pictures of her kids hacked, stolen, and sold to a child pornographer (happens all of the time) then we wouldn't hear this internet is free game stuff. There are many many many more examples of stuff that's accessible to the internet that people hold sacred.

Not to mention that "they put it on the internet" is factually incorrect.

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Kansas State Football / Re: iowa state roll call

« on: September 04, 2014, 08:55:45 AM »

I will be sitting in the Iowa St. section.  You think I will be ok?  I'll be excited to report back good quotes I hear from the crowd.

the passive aggressive comments will be a treat.  bring a recorder.

Yeah, this.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 08:53:45 AM »

Daris, why are you so angry about this? First of all I have no idea why you guys keep using raw attendance numbers. Oakland's capacity is 35,000. The attendance data that I see goes back 14 seasons, out of those 14 Kansas City hasn't had a better capacity percentage since 2011 and they have only had a better capacity percentage 4 years out of the last 14 (08-11).

Are you seriously contending that the stadium doesn't have a severe effect on attendance? I'd point out the percentages of Minnesota, Milwaukee, Colorado, Watshington, etc. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh definitely didn't see their attendance increase after they moved out of their dumps.

Might have something to do with the greater metro of Oakland/San Fran being 7.4M vs. the 2.3M that is the greater KC metro. 

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 03:45:15 AM »

I mean, the internet is still real life. It seems pretty silly to me that people who take all of these precautions to keep themselves shielded from the public in other facets of their life, wouldn't take the same measures for digital content they put on the internet. I'm sorry. What happened to them sucks, but c'mon. They know that people are constantly trying to pry into their lives, because our society eats that crap up. I don't really understand how anyone is surprised here.

Are you saying that an 18 year old that had the audacity of competing in the Olympics at 16 years old shouldn't have the same expectation of privacy as anyone else?

And again, I'll take exception to "digital content they put on the internet." There's lots of information about all of us accessible to hackers that we didn't put there. I'm assuming you have a job, have a bank account, or pay bills, right?

She is/was a public figure. Society is shitty. I think she should. However, there's plenty of people who disagree with me and want to know what she had for breakfast.

If you put it on a device with access to the internet, it's on the internet. Yes, I'm fully aware that almost everything I have ever done is on the internet. That's the way life works. You know what I don't have online? Any nude photos, mostly because I haven't taken any, but also because I haven't but them on a device with access to the internet or given them to anyone. As far as I know, that's the only way to maintain sole possession of digital content.

I don't want to put words into your mouth but you sound like the fact that these were nude photos makes these victims less worthy of sympathy. It's interesting that some people view hackers in a more favorable light than people who decided to do something completely legal but intimate for a loved one. Not saying you fall into this category, I'm not at all sure, but there's a sizable element that do.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 03:07:19 AM »

I mean, the internet is still real life. It seems pretty silly to me that people who take all of these precautions to keep themselves shielded from the public in other facets of their life, wouldn't take the same measures for digital content they put on the internet. I'm sorry. What happened to them sucks, but c'mon. They know that people are constantly trying to pry into their lives, because our society eats that crap up. I don't really understand how anyone is surprised here.

Are you saying that an 18 year old that had the audacity of competing in the Olympics at 16 years old shouldn't have the same expectation of privacy as anyone else?

And again, I'll take exception to "digital content they put on the internet." There's lots of information about all of us accessible to hackers that we didn't put there. I'm assuming you have a job, have a bank account, or pay bills, right?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 03:01:43 AM »

I didn't read the whole Daris and MiR discussion before posting my earlier comment.

These hackers didn't bumble around on the internet testing iCloud accounts until they stumbled across Verlander's. You make it sound like some smash and grab job. They were targeted specifically for their celebrity.

I agree with Daris. What was stolen is simply an object. Some objects have deeper personal value to their owners than others. Theft is wrong. Slut shaming is another issue entirely. These pictures were stolen from these celebrities for some sort of personal gratification, not to shame the individual.

Yeah of course the release was targeted, that's common sense. They have access to so much more than that, there is no athlete and celebrity iCloud, these criminals have photos and personal info for thousands, if not millions of regular people. That being said, I don't want you to be confused about how I feel about this issue. I couldn't care less about the method, frequency, or the motivation of those who released these or any other photos; it isn't relevant. Side note, I don't buy Apple's explanation of these people being victim to a phishing scam.

With your second point, again the value of these photos aren't up for any of us to agree or disagree. That is solely determined by each individual victim. I wouldn't at all doubt that some of these women don't care at all, while others may view this as the ultimate invasion into their private lives. That isn't for anyone else to determine.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 02:11:39 AM »

You guys have heard about the celeb nudes trading ring, right? What got leaked from that 4chan spin off last weekend only begins to scratch the surface. That's why that lady's picture from several years ago showed up. This has been going on for sometime.

yeah. i do. not sure mir does. 

We were talking about how you think these women, should view this as if their wallets were stolen. I am legitimately confused as to what Metalhead's post has to do with anything I've said. I don't think he was interjecting this into what we were discussing. Did I say anything about prevalence and frequency?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 01:26:24 AM »

http://archive.cincinnati.com/article/20090322/NEWS01/903220312/Nude-photo-led-suicide
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/sexting-related-bullying-cited-in-hillsborough-teens-suicide/1054895
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/bulle/features/2010/what_really_happened_to_phoebe_prince/the_untold_story_of_her_suicide_and_the_role_of_the_kids_who_have_been_criminally_charged_for_it.html

I don't think these parents would agree with the stolen wallet analogy, in the Phoebe Prince case and previously unmentioned Erin Andrews case the law certainly didn't.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Hacked accounts

« on: September 04, 2014, 01:16:00 AM »

1)someone taking nude pictures of themselves on something that is internet accessible= leaving themselves vulnerable to people looking to cause problems.

2)someone getting so drunk that they pass out and can't defend themselves=leaving themselves vulnerable to people looking to cause problems.

Well here is the first problem right here. Those people had no intent of anything being on the internet, they didn't put it there, they took pictures with their phone. I'm not into victim blaming in any circumstance but in your second example the victim did something reckless before they were victimized. In 2014 your entire life in accessible on the internet, is opening a bank account to pay your bills akin to getting blacked out drunk?

so, having an iPhone, they had no idea this would be uploaded to the cloud?

Most people don't, no, same with androids. I'm tech savvy and I got suckered with the permissions from the new facebook messenger app.

in general, people are getting worked up because they feel these people stole something personal. a first kiss. their virginity. whatever. i get that. it sucks big time and i feel for them. the problem is, they didn't. they had a wallet or a computer or a microwave stolen.

I don't think that's up for anyone, other than the person affected, to determine. I certainly hope that no one that I care for is placed in this position and their feelings fall somewhere in the spectrum between getting their wallet stolen and feeling like they were raped. These people being in the public eye helps them deal with this in ways others can't. There are stories of regular people having compromising photos of them posted online and that coupled with increased scrutiny caused suicide.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 01:05:59 AM »

JFC.  i just dont know how you justify all of this, you look at my soccer posts in the past, its about not liking soccer.  everyone gets that.  you come over after a royals win and crucify our fans for the attendance.  SKC had just lost, i get that, but you chose to post in the royals thread first(before i went to the soccer thread) and vent your frustration that your team didn't win.  i mean the time stamps are there, and obviously you had intent on continuing your royals bash.  how am i the one who started this? this hypocritical bull crap is old.

I don't know what your point or end game is, so if I tell you that your soccer trolling posts over the past two weeks have kept me up at night with angst will you shut the eff up about it?

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 01:01:37 AM »

Daris, why are you so angry about this? First of all I have no idea why you guys keep using raw attendance numbers. Oakland's capacity is 35,000. The attendance data that I see goes back 14 seasons, out of those 14 Kansas City hasn't had a better capacity percentage since 2011 and they have only had a better capacity percentage 4 years out of the last 14 (08-11).

Are you seriously contending that the stadium doesn't have a severe effect on attendance? I'd point out the percentages of Minnesota, Milwaukee, Colorado, Watshington, etc. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh definitely didn't see their attendance increase after they moved out of their dumps.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:41:23 AM »

MIR stop trolling. We have the highest average attendance in 20 years and we'll beat it next year and you know that

Ugh, never accuse me of trolling ever again, it's absolutely the worst thing about this board. I mean TBT in the soccer threads is so pathetic, that's not my deal. I'm not really in tune with trolling but does it involve posting facts?

I'm happy you have the highest attendance in 20 years, I mean you should, big deal. 15,000 ANNOUNCED for a night game in September when you're a half game up when you haven't seen the playoffs in 30 seasons is embarrassing. KC is 25th in average attendance and 21st in capacity percentage in a season where you've been in the hunt all season.

LOL, if me in my terrible trolls is bothering you LOLOLOLOL

So you translated me calling your trolling pathetic into it bothering me. Okay dude.

no other reason to explain it.  i have .000001% of posts in the soccer thread, you singling me out for trolling is a clear sign it affected you.

either that or the fact that the very last post in the thread was this

Tough loss tonight, is this true?

 

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:38:26 AM »

Baseball attendance is really dependent on pre-season season ticket sales. The season ticket base is ALWAYS a year behind the success of the team. Unfortunately, KC fans have been conditioned to go to T-Shirt tuesdays, buck nights, and fireworks Fridays. I wish the stadium attendance was higher, but it is what it is. Loyal Royals fans are amazing. I've been to 9 games so far, and plan on 3 more, which is about my capacity in this season of life. Most loyal fans are like me, and the city should be proud of averaging more than 23K for the season. And MIR, please, you know what you were doing. Put Sonofadaxjones on that post and it would make plenty of sense. You came over here expecting Royals fans to defend attendance numbers and attacked it looking for a response. You're a smart dude, and a good poster, but that was a punk move.

First of all I told you I wasn't trolling, I feel like you're calling me a liar.

That thing about season ticket sales is absurd, it's September and you are in a pennant chase. I'm trying to find the hard numbers but I think Houston has had a higher attendance increase since April than Kansas City, that's sorry. Why are you talking about the loyal Royals fans? I don't think I said a thing about the people there or people that go to games. We are talking about the 30,000 empty seats.

Also come on man, Oakland has tarps because they play in a 80,000 seat football stadium. That's a reason to praise their fans not criticize them. Safe to say that their attendance would be even better if they had a top 5 MLB stadium like The K.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:28:47 AM »

MIR stop trolling. We have the highest average attendance in 20 years and we'll beat it next year and you know that

Ugh, never accuse me of trolling ever again, it's absolutely the worst thing about this board. I mean TBT in the soccer threads is so pathetic, that's not my deal. I'm not really in tune with trolling but does it involve posting facts?

I'm happy you have the highest attendance in 20 years, I mean you should, big deal. 15,000 ANNOUNCED for a night game in September when you're a half game up when you haven't seen the playoffs in 30 seasons is embarrassing. KC is 25th in average attendance and 21st in capacity percentage in a season where you've been in the hunt all season.

LOL, if me in my terrible trolls is bothering you LOLOLOLOL

So you translated me calling your trolling pathetic into it bothering me. Okay dude.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:26:02 AM »

MIR stop trolling. We have the highest average attendance in 20 years and we'll beat it next year and you know that

Ugh, never accuse me of trolling ever again, it's absolutely the worst thing about this board. I mean TBT in the soccer threads is so pathetic, that's not my deal. I'm not really in tune with trolling but does it involve posting facts?

I'm happy you have the highest attendance in 20 years, I mean you should, big deal. 15,000 ANNOUNCED for a night game in September when you're a half game up when you haven't seen the playoffs in 30 seasons is embarrassing. KC is 25th in average attendance and 21st in capacity percentage in a season where you've been in the hunt all season.

i mean based on your post before, about it being worse than the rays and whatever and how the a's wouldn't allow it, you have to be trolling.

the a's have finished in first place 6 out of the last 14 years and are only averaging 1,500 more a game than the royals who haven't put a team in the playoffs since 1985 and have the longest active drought in mlb. i mean that's a troll, right? i mean, it's better than the alternative.

Oakland is 14th in capacity percentage and they play in what is easily the worst stadium in the league and may be the worst venue for it's sport in all of North America.

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: 2014 Ryder Cup

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:23:09 AM »

The pundits say we're the underdogs. Even without Tiger, I say we win.

If this team had 2000 Tiger they would still stink, and of course we haven't won in the UK in a generation I'm still pissed about the Meltdown in Medinah

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Other Sports (Tiger's Back) / Re: The Royals

« on: September 04, 2014, 12:13:55 AM »

MIR stop trolling. We have the highest average attendance in 20 years and we'll beat it next year and you know that

Ugh, never accuse me of trolling ever again, it's absolutely the worst thing about this board. I mean TBT in the soccer threads is so pathetic, that's not my deal. I'm not really in tune with trolling but does it involve posting facts?

I'm happy you have the highest attendance in 20 years, I mean you should, big deal. 15,000 ANNOUNCED for a night game in September when you're a half game up when you haven't seen the playoffs in 30 seasons is embarrassing. KC is 25th in average attendance and 21st in capacity percentage in a season where you've been in the hunt all season.