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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: December 01, 2021, 12:31:55 AM »

So he never refers to Gene by name?

I watched the both of them during the ceremonies for Darren earlier this summer. I did find it weird that Gene inserted himself in those ceremonies given he wasn't involved with K-State at all when Darren was here. Anyway Bill and Gene were in very close proximity on the field but never interacted.

We know that Bill is around at least a bit still, I can't imagine he shared his saltines with Gene so this is probably the first time Gene is being exposed to a glimmer of how much Bill hates him.

Also this should 100% put to bed any notion that Gene won't cut oscar's throat at the end of this season. Just a month on the job, bro tried to push out a legend who was in chemo.

the "athletic director" that he's referring to is currie, not gene.

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: December 01, 2021, 12:03:12 AM »

more on "the athletic director"

"amid the cancer treatments, the fatigue, spring football, and the persistent rumors regarding my future, i encountered another situation. I learned that for an undetermined period of time the athletic director had been calling our players and some of our assistant coaches into his office. he apparently had been asking them to critique our program and my job as head coach. i took issue with the manner by which the conversations were facilitated. it was the veil of secrecy that surrounded these conversations with members of our program that most angered me."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: December 01, 2021, 12:00:12 AM »

more on "the athletic director."

"media speculation and rumors shifted toward the future of our program. one theory suggested that i was going to corner kansas state into hiring sean as head coach. those theorists were unaware that a few years prior the athletic director eliminated the language in my contract that enabled me to name my successor. i felt that even if i was to step down just one week before the start of the season, the athletic director would find his own guy."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 11:56:49 PM »

Sounds exactly like this

no, no, no. this book is much better. it's no comparison.

also, i should have noted earlier, the cancer chapter is actually quite good. it's about as close to the real bill as you will get and did contain some personal details that were (to my knowledge) not disclosed previously.

this part was the best:

"i called president myers a few days after my surgery and told him i had throat cancer. the athletic director pushed for me to step down. i discovered that he already had an individual in place to become the next head coach. i asked president myers to inform the athletic director that i intended to return for the 2017 season."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 04:22:15 PM »

most k-state fans will like this book. it is perfectly fine. but for me, it was just...meh. too shallow and unrevealing. the stuff i cared to read about most - specifics of how the '98 loss crushed his soul, his perception of prince, the feeling of watching his program crumble to the ground 2006-08, his feuds with currie, the '12 baylor loss, etc - were all either unaddressed or quickly glossed over. we don't really learn anything new about him outside of a few anecdotes. i wanted to love it. but i just didn't.

it is 10x better than the prior book though!

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:57:04 PM »

"i run through hundreds of purple pens every year writing notes. my print appears diagonally on my notes and letters because i'm left-handed and i find it easier to write across my body. i probably began this writing style in elementary school. we sat in those wood desks with the arm that flapped over, and there were only right-handed desks, so i had to reach across the desk in order to write."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:50:53 PM »

"after jon and i spoke with ron, he left the hotel room. jon and tim wanted to offer ron the head coaching job when they brought him back into the room. i still held out for someone else. "would you allow me to make one last phone call for someone you could interview?" i called jim (leavitt), who told me that he couldn't pursue the kansas state job. (...) jon and tim called ron back into the hotel room, and they offered him the position."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:47:45 PM »

"i can't say that the decision to end the equestrian program didn't strain our relationship, but john did what he believed was in the best interest of the athletic department. the decision just made no sense to me."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:38:12 PM »

saddest part of the book, from bill's childhood:

"i witnessed a scene by happenstance that crushed my longstanding belief that professional wrestling was real. while walking by the locker room, i stole a glance at four wrestlers, who were laughing with one another over beer and cigarettes moments before they were supposed to step into the ring and fight each other. i never saw pro wrestling the same way ever again."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:32:47 PM »

chapter 17, "Stepping Down."

"...I had a big smile on my face. I had never been one to allow that sort of thing to happen..."

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Kansas State Football / Re: bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:29:00 PM »

the word Prince appears seven times; six for Ron, one for the Prince of Saudi Arabia.

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Kansas State Football / bill's book

« on: November 30, 2021, 03:27:15 PM »

the word "significant" appears 74 times.

in chapter 8, it appears eight times in six pages.

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Kansas State Football / Re: The Mask

« on: October 15, 2021, 08:48:21 PM »

good god, kansas state becomes a little more iowa state-y every year. 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

« on: July 26, 2021, 10:37:03 AM »

New Big 12:

Baylor
Colorado State
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
North Dakota St
Oklahoma St
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah State
West Virginia

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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

« on: July 23, 2021, 04:12:15 PM »

the pac 18 would be a cool conference.

wash & wash st
arizona & ariz st
usc & ucla
cal & stanford
oregon & oregon st
colorado & colorado st
kansas & kansas st
utah & utah st
texas tech & baylor

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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

« on: July 23, 2021, 04:08:05 PM »

eff conferences. k-state needs to go the independent route. stream all games through a premium subscription offered through the university's athletics site, then schedule a bunch of reckless big games against perennial powers and bluebloods to add exposure, TV opportunity, etc - home, away, neutral, wherever. everyone will laugh and say it won't work. k-state will be a national laughingstock. but it beats standing against the fence like losers while all the other superior programs in bigger markets get picked before you do. and k-state might not get picked anyway.

damn, even if k-state got 50k subs at $100/year that's only $5 mill.

hopefully they can sell some ads. 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

« on: July 23, 2021, 04:05:11 PM »

eff conferences. k-state needs to go the independent route. stream all games through a premium subscription offered through the university's athletics site, then schedule a bunch of reckless big games against perennial powers and bluebloods to add exposure, TV opportunity, etc - home, away, neutral, wherever. everyone will laugh and say it won't work. k-state will be a national laughingstock. but it beats standing against the fence like losers while all the other superior programs in bigger markets get picked before you do. and k-state might not get picked anyway.

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: vegas

« on: July 06, 2021, 12:51:16 PM »

hell's kitchen on las vegas blvd, right outside of caesars, is very strong & bonus points for convenience.

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: vegas

« on: July 05, 2021, 04:23:46 PM »

Will be there Monday-Thursday(5-8) this coming week. As I had thought, everything is open and I am chipped and ready for some pool/gambling action.

make sure to visit circa downtown at some point on your trip.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Favorite K-State Writer of all time? - It's Jmart, leader of Rivals.com K-State

« on: July 05, 2021, 04:22:52 PM »

what was it?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Happy "retirement" oscar, now let's find your replacement

« on: April 07, 2021, 09:28:15 PM »

THIS IS OUR HUGGY!

yessir. highly regarded coach who is available almost entirely due to character issues who will win big wherever he goes.

it's not even a hard decision. and compared to self, he's practically a choir boy.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Happy "retirement" oscar, now let's find your replacement

« on: April 07, 2021, 09:25:04 PM »

miller's ceiling is higher than anything k-state basketball has ever had. in year four of a dramatic rebuild, he had zona as the 14th best team in KenPom. then 2nd best (33-5 overall). then 3rd best (34-4 overall). then zona fell off for a couple years—to 19th and 18th. yes, crap hit the fan in recent years, but it was far from a nosedive even despite all the NCAA stuff. they were 19th last year and 29th this year.

miller put 13 guys in the NBA in a decade, including three players in the '20 draft. five of his former players went top 10, including deandre ayton 1st overall in '18. almost all of them left early. part of the reason he hasn't been able to sustain top-10 level success every year is because he recruits guys who are too good to stay three or four years!

what a nice problem to have.

when weber's players leave early, it's almost always to transfer to another school!

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Happy "retirement" oscar, now let's find your replacement

« on: April 07, 2021, 11:59:28 AM »

three elite eights, five sweet 16s, five conference titles, three conference tourney titles, lottery picks, good recruiting despite a conference that nosedived the last 6-8 years, cheating, scandal, winning, fun, Sean Miller, the difference is experience, experience the difference.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Happy "retirement" oscar, now let's find your replacement

« on: April 07, 2021, 11:56:58 AM »

gene should call these coaches, in the following order, and offer them the job:

1. john beilein - beilein is out of coaching, but you know he won't be for long. he made a mistake exiting college for the cavs and now needs a compelling reason to get back into it. k-state can appeal to him: beilein loves to rebuild programs. he's been doing it his whole career - from le moyne to canisius to richmond to west virginia to michigan. this is a perfect opportunity. beyond that, he can bring his son, patrick, aboard and groom him to be the coach-in-waiting. patrick is a rising star who will need to rehab his image after resigning from niagara for "personal reasons."

2. rick pitino - this would be bob huggins part II. pitino used iona to rehab his image, and now we've all forgotten about the bad crap he did. would he leave iona for k-state given that he probably prefers to live in NY? maybe. but here's how to sweeten it: offer for his son, richard, to come aboard and become the head-coach-in-waiting. richard has a bright future despite "failing" at minnesota. the conference has been brutally hard and he's been very unlucky between signing one trainwreck recruiting class and then having bad luck with injuries. rick would love the opportunity to coach alongside his son at a school with a legit chance to go all the way. (richard hired by new mexico already)

3. sean miller - great recruiter and program builder. would orchestrate an immediate turnaround. can go toe-to-toe with bill self when it comes to cheating for recruits. very good chance he splits from arizona. this would be a huggins-like landing spot for him - a chance to rebuild his image while other schools will take a pass due to ncaa sanctions, fbi, etc baggage.

4. kelvin sampson - he took wazzu, okla, indiana and now houston to the ncaa tourney. capable of immediate turnarounds. willing to cheat. highly likely to say no, as he's 65 and has lived in houston for a decade now extending back to his time w the rockets. but at least reach out to see if he's interested in a return to the big 12. (too good for us now, made FF)

5. porter moser - great coach and better person. has proven he can do more with less. k-state is not a catholic school however and moser values religion. he also previously turned down offers from UNLV and st john's. he will say no - but gene should make him say no.

6. kyle smith - big schools will come after him in a few years after he leads wazzu to a top-4 pac-12 finish and ncaa tourney appearance in 2022. k-state has a chance to be early before his stock surges and not have to compete with better schools willing to offer more money.

7. frank martin - i don't love this, as i think frank is an overrated coach. but as far as infusing energy into the program and having the fanbase go batshit crazy, it would be hard to argue against bringing him back. he loved k-state but hated john currie. he would be embraced and his time at south carolina is ending soon.

https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1379839534452641798?s=21

Time for Mean Gene to make a move. This is Tim Weiser/Huggins all over again.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Happy "retirement" oscar, now let's find your replacement

« on: April 02, 2021, 05:03:39 PM »

gene should call these coaches, in the following order, and offer them the job:

1. john beilein - beilein is out of coaching, but you know he won't be for long. he made a mistake exiting college for the cavs and now needs a compelling reason to get back into it. k-state can appeal to him: beilein loves to rebuild programs. he's been doing it his whole career - from le moyne to canisius to richmond to west virginia to michigan. this is a perfect opportunity. beyond that, he can bring his son, patrick, aboard and groom him to be the coach-in-waiting. patrick is a rising star who will need to rehab his image after resigning from niagara for "personal reasons."

2. rick pitino - this would be bob huggins part II. pitino used iona to rehab his image, and now we've all forgotten about the bad crap he did. would he leave iona for k-state given that he probably prefers to live in NY? maybe. but here's how to sweeten it: offer for his son, richard, to come aboard and become the head-coach-in-waiting. richard has a bright future despite "failing" at minnesota. the conference has been brutally hard and he's been very unlucky between signing one trainwreck recruiting class and then having bad luck with injuries. rick would love the opportunity to coach alongside his son at a school with a legit chance to go all the way. (richard hired by new mexico already)

3. sean miller - great recruiter and program builder. would orchestrate an immediate turnaround. can go toe-to-toe with bill self when it comes to cheating for recruits. very good chance he splits from arizona. this would be a huggins-like landing spot for him - a chance to rebuild his image while other schools will take a pass due to ncaa sanctions, fbi, etc baggage.

4. kelvin sampson - he took wazzu, okla, indiana and now houston to the ncaa tourney. capable of immediate turnarounds. willing to cheat. highly likely to say no, as he's 65 and has lived in houston for a decade now extending back to his time w the rockets. but at least reach out to see if he's interested in a return to the big 12. (too good for us now, made FF)

5. porter moser - great coach and better person. has proven he can do more with less. k-state is not a catholic school however and moser values religion. he also previously turned down offers from UNLV and st john's. he will say no - but gene should make him say no.

6. kyle smith - big schools will come after him in a few years after he leads wazzu to a top-4 pac-12 finish and ncaa tourney appearance in 2022. k-state has a chance to be early before his stock surges and not have to compete with better schools willing to offer more money.

7. frank martin - i don't love this, as i think frank is an overrated coach. but as far as infusing energy into the program and having the fanbase go batshit crazy, it would be hard to argue against bringing him back. he loved k-state but hated john currie. he would be embraced and his time at south carolina is ending soon.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1378096792017977344