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However, I also will not excuse Martin's role, and I suppose I was hoping by year four he would have started to figure out some better methods to get his lessons taught, especially by the time league play roles around.

his role in the losses was his inability to better prepare the team to defend and limit turnovers.  his in game decisions had nothing to do with losing.

32052
Here's the thing this week, we've seen Franking around at both extremes and its frustrating. First was the "throw the young guys out there in crunch time" (both Gip and Angel) and it backfires because both make critical mistakes. Then its "teach the young guys (and some old guys) a lesson by not letting them see the floor". This has usually happened against opponents thatFrank clearly thinks we'll be fine against and sometimes it backfires like it did today.

_fan, the problem with pointing a finger at either is that neither was that important.  ar-t and gipson weren't the reason they lost against baylor - the entire team, including veterans was unable to control the ball, and to a lesser extent, defend.  to blame ar-t or gipson or to blame martin for playing them is ludicrous.  those aren't the guys primarily responsible for winning or losing games this season.

to blame martin for not playing ar-t at ou is even worse.   kstate didn't lose because they didn't have ar-t, and he sure as hell wasn't going to come in and fix the problem of 10 guys not being able to defend.

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Over the next two minutes we got the lead down to 8 with a 10-0 run.  That is momentum in this league in an away game.  To say otherwise is dishonest at best.

the defense was horrible during that "run".  ou just missed open shots.  that's not a sustainable way to take momentum, cut a deficit or win a game.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: win the conference
« on: January 14, 2012, 06:26:41 PM »
our goal for this season is still the same.  let's take care of business, cats!

post like a champion today.

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Have you rough ridin' watched OU this year? There are only 3 maybe 4 Big 12 level athletes on the roster, and there is no rough ridin' size.  Pledger and Fitz can both score a little but they're flawed athletically. I would take KSU's roster over OU's everyday of the week.

we have a lot of stupid posters over here, shf.

32056
Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 05:09:42 PM »
congrats, soonerhoopsfan.  you deserved a day like today.

32057
horrid coaching decisions which kill momentum (zone today). 

this is what i mean.  i mean, did you see how bad kstate's man was?  how could you possibly object to playing zone?  there is no way it could be worse.  so they hit a 3 right after, that doesn't mean anything, they were scoring at will against the man.

it's just mindless knee-jerking.


oh, and we never had momentum.

32058
Either way its on the coaches. 

ultimately everything is on the coaches.  i don't object to blaming them, i object to the knee-jerking, reactionary way of allocating blame.

32059
I know, right? As you would expect, though, it didn't work Sys. :frown:

we can only lead them to water.

32060
Frank got clownsuited today on every level.

dax's world, where every loss proves a coach outcoached, a player stupid, and backup quarterback to have been better than the starter.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:56:32 PM »
angel has the best lateral quickness of our combos (not saying a whole lot)

yes, but i wouldn't minimize ar-t's lateral quickness.  he has fantastic feet/body control/balance.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:48:15 PM »
I do think Tay is our best on ball defender.      His footwork is pretty solid and i think he does a pretty good job getting thru screnes.

you're right, he does a great job on screens.

32063
We had a 40-minute long defense lapse today.

pretty thick line, really.

32064
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

yes.

32065
Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:44:08 PM »
Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?
southwell

no, he is.  obviously he can't guard a 5'10" pg, but he does a better job on 3s than our 1s do on 1s.

32066
They played like they ran stairs for 2 hours, 2 hours prior to the game today.

they played like they all ran stairs instead of practicing defense.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:39:23 PM »
Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell
ar-t
irving
spradler
mcgruder

jones

i'd listen to arguments on flipping mcgruder and spradler.  or ar-t and irving.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:37:40 PM »
Likewise on defense, Tay is our best on ball defender and its not close.   JO disrupts a ton of shoots inside of 8 feet.

i don't know if he's kstate's best on ball defender (i don't think he is, but really, none of our perimeter defenders are anything special), but it is certainly close.  he does not offer a substantial upgrade over the other guards.

agree on dob.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:35:39 PM »
I don't think Tay is that great a defender.

he's not.  especially if the help is poor.  he needs help.

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Oh yeah. I think for awhile i just posted the link to the bball board in every football thread.

good job, kougar24.

32071
When you call people pussies you completely invalidate any salient points you may make.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:21:21 PM »
so, like, everyone back to reality yet?  this team is NIT-ish.  remember when we drilled a good MU team at home in 08/09? 

no, they've played good defense at time this year.  they will again.

32073
Frank says just now that Angel needs to change his mental approach if he's going to play.

how about changing your mental approach, stan.  ever heard of that one?

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:17:39 PM »
First comment out of Frank on postgame - I was right when I was mean to Stan on Tuesday.

it's good the martin can still recognize that he was right.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: unbelievable
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:13:59 PM »
The thing is the defense pretty much stinks in Big 12 play. We played great defense in 1 game and terrible defense in 3 games. The last two games we have allowed both teams to shoot an eFG% of 59%.

kinda, yeah.  although the d against baylor was a lot better than against ou.  iirc, it was pretty good in parts of the ku game, but not consistent.


i really can't compare today's d to anything.  it was worse for an entire game than any martin d i can recall for a long time.

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