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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: 201* Concert Thread
« on: February 20, 2019, 11:23:32 AM »

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Recent motion picture viewing - Add your own!
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:41:22 PM »
The Beach was on HBO last night. Young Leo totally slays in that movie.

One of my favs

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Jussie Smollet
« on: February 18, 2019, 11:08:05 AM »
America loves a comeback story, his career is not over.

Considering the vast majority of Americans had no idea who this guy was before this incident, I don't see him ever shedding this scarlet letter. This is particularly disappointing because it simultaneously stokes racial animosity while making it harder for real victims to be believed. You really think he can survive this?

LOL.
Your first sentence is a real two America's perspective. To millions of Americans Smollet is just as recognizable as Will Arnett and Jason Sudekis (I literally had to look these dudes names up, recognize their faces, forgot their names).

Your second sentence should be put on a poster for white fragility. White people have been blaming black men for crimes they didn't commit literally every day since emancipation. We wanna take bets on how many of my people are locked up because some white person wanted to pin a crime on them that they didn't commit, how many lynched, executed by the government? When any of that happens do white people feel the need to blame them for stoking black distrust in the white power structure? GMAFB on "stoking racial animosity," anyone who uses this or any other false accusation didn't need this to fuel the animus. Black people are 12% of the population, it should be clear to all that we hold no keys in controlling what white people think about race relations.

I know you don't condone his actions, if indeed the allegations of a hoax are proven to be true. But thanks for reminding me we have an ugly history of prejudice in this country, and in too many cases unrelated to this instance, that pattern continues today. If you want to make this about that, then I'm outtie. If unrelated to this case, you want to point out other instances of black people being unfairly victimized by the justice system, then I'll gladly stand beside you and voice my strong disapproval. Have a great day.

What I want is for people to stop making this about anything but one dude and an elaborate lie. I don't want white people using these highly publicized hoaxes as a crutch for improved race relations.  The boy who cried wolf talking point is 100% unacceptable, I'll hear it from the dax's, ksuw's, and the 27's of this world, but well meaning liberals and moderates should be metaphorically smacked every time they do it.
That's fair. 

But if we shouldn't give this episode any significance broader than the individual actors in this case, would that have been the case if Smollet was actually attacked by MAGA guys? 

In other words, let's say that two guys did attack Smollet and shout "this is MAGA country" and the events unfolded like Smollet actually reported.  Would you give credence to a trump supporter who said "wait a second, these highly publicized instances of violence shouldn't be given any significance beyond the individuals involved.  They aren't evidence of my intentions, the intentions of the president, or the intentions of those that support the president."

I could go either way on it, but I think we should probably be consistent.  Either we attach broader significance to these actions, or we limit the significance to the actors involved.

I don't think it's ok to paint with a broad brush like that, but I think you can definitely point to the motivators or a lack thereof in each case. Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Trump and Fox News are absolutely tapping into something dark and evil. I don't see any liberals or democrats advocating for staging hate crimes.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Jussie Smollet
« on: February 18, 2019, 09:23:42 AM »
You should all stop pretending that much of the media isn’t at least partially complicit in these hoaxes.

They reported what the police told them  :dunno:

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Jussie Smollet
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:35:20 PM »
That's an amazing take, 27

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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Kc restaurant suggestions
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:01:47 PM »
Holy crap  :horrorsurprise:

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Terry Pierce is a Trump supporter?  :sdeek:

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Jussie Smollet
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:31:37 AM »
I don’t like Trump and MAGA people, so who gives a crap about the truth?

I disagree with your position.


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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Jussie Smollet
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:45:32 AM »
Trump and MAGA people are, kind of, the victim if you think about it

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« on: February 16, 2019, 09:51:32 PM »
lol bucket is obsessed:


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Strong rebuke

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« on: February 16, 2019, 07:54:26 PM »
1.4 million fewer on food stamps.

Thanks Obama

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 16, 2019, 12:03:24 PM »

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Bill 'Strong Bull' Weld
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:21:12 PM »
Will he poke the Trump bear?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 03:36:43 PM »
The levels of illegal border crossing/attempted illegal border is at unprecedented levels.

Good one, Dax!

 :lol:

At current pace, it will at minimum blow by the previous 5 Federal Fiscal Years by a wide margin, likely months early.   The current FFY avg is 60K caught/inadmissible a month . . . that's just what they catch.

Where'd you get your numbers, Dax?

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

I missed that key point. Good job.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:24:21 PM »
The levels of illegal border crossing/attempted illegal border is at unprecedented levels.

Good one, Dax!

 :lol:

At current pace, it will at minimum blow by the previous 5 Federal Fiscal Years by a wide margin, likely months early.   The current FFY avg is 60K caught/inadmissible a month . . . that's just what they catch.

Where'd you get your numbers, Dax?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:10:08 PM »
The levels of illegal border crossing/attempted illegal border is at unprecedented levels.

Good one, Dax!

 :lol:

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:09:13 PM »
Fixing the border without a rough ridin' medieval wall.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:06:14 PM »
Not one person has ever posted."all I want is an open border" on here but dax needs that stawman to base his wall of text on.

The policies and politicians you support belie this statement in it's entirety.

Quit lying, Phil.

Your tapout is noted. Moving on.

It's either one of two things, Phil.  Either you guys are playing politics with national security, or you want open borders.   Which is it?

The third option is missing.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 01:57:47 PM »
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: EMERGENCY!
« on: February 15, 2019, 10:28:31 AM »

 :buh-bye:

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