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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: One year Weber
« on: December 16, 2012, 05:08:07 PM »
do you have any idea how stupid you would look in that shirt?

Anyone wearing that to a basketball game would look brilliant...and even more so as the game progresses.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: I hate everything
« on: December 16, 2012, 04:21:09 PM »
If we had Gottlieb in this current situation I wouldn't be nearly as hateful/depressed. I'd figure (a) Doug's got a learning curve ahead and (b) Doug will recruit very well. With our loser coach it's the exact opposite.

I'm under the assumption that Doug wouldn't have turned the team into a herd of pussies running around in circles.  I think he even mentioned that he thought we already had all the right pieces in place and would just tweak things a little to better suit our strengths.  Whatever the case, someone is going to have a hard time convincing me that he would have mumped this up worse than oscar

It's hard to imagine.  He's taken two of our best players (McGruder & JO) and rendered them useless.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: One year Weber
« on: December 16, 2012, 04:07:11 PM »
Get it done soon....Christmas presents!   :fatty:

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Tuck 22
« on: December 16, 2012, 02:59:15 PM »
It's quite the pickle, no doubt.  It seems like we might be further along with weber than we were with wooly, however the "look what illinois is doing this year, just give him time" will be a currie/oscar talking point.

Illinois this year should be the opposite of a oscar/Currie talking point.

The "oscar Factor" is defined (by me) as the increase in wins by Illinois this year less the increase (that's plus the decrease for the math impaired) in wins by K-State.

It is going to be a big number.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Florida Game Attire
« on: December 16, 2012, 02:54:30 PM »
K-State gear with paper bag over your head....giant "Fire Currie" poster.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Show Cause Penalty
« on: December 16, 2012, 01:50:24 PM »
Weber can be our John L. Smith

John L didn't have a multi year contract worth shitloads of money.  Only Currie in that stupid.

Come to think of it, you might have just found our next football coach.

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Who is your one win?

I'm figuring between @WV, @TCU, OU they can stumble into a win.  After losing to KU by 40+, all hope will be gone.

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Telling moment of the night...

1st half; team runs offense, generates nothing, and exhausts the shot clock. Angel (IIRC) is at the top of the key and covered, passing to JO on the wing as the clock expires. JO swishes meaningless 3 pointer.

I think it was Tay who passed to JHR, but yeah. :facepalm:

Memories of JO taking Jake to the wire in the 3 point contest.

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JO looks like maybe he is taking one for the team and sacrificing his senior year in the name of #burnitdown.

Well done.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 16, 2012, 12:51:25 PM »
There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

Still, if people had a "give him a chance" mentality, that means that they didn't like the hire either.  It just means they are withholding judgement for now.

You can't be #burnitdown and #givehimachance.  They are mutually exclusive.

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Yes.

I don't think that oscar has lost this team yet, but clearly the team is lost. They just have no idea how to play anymore.

That said, if/when oscar does lose them...

When I look at the schedule, I'm counting on the team mailing it in after a 1-5 conference start.  Look back at the conference prediction thread.  Damn near everyone had them above .500.  I think I was 5-13 or so.  I hope I'm wrong.  I hope they go 1-17.  #burnitdown

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 16, 2012, 12:33:07 PM »
If the kind of basketball you saw tonight got him hired, why would it get him fired?  Didn't Currie watch any Illinois games last year?

No, I'm sure he didn't.  I'm not convinced he even knew who oscar Weber was until Gene Keady threw out his name.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 16, 2012, 12:32:09 PM »
There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

Everyone hated the hire when it was made you dumbass.

Bullshit, there were plenty of "give him a chance" pusses right here on this board.  A week after the hire it was probably 50/50.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: One year Weber
« on: December 16, 2012, 09:43:30 AM »
Just replace obamas face with curries shiteating smirk on the Wannabe Marxist Dictator billboard.

lol

There was a time when we almost had a "fire Currie" billboard, but then all the candyasses went all "Let's wait and see".  Not pointing at you Koug, I remember you being on board.  Steve Dave, sys, Rusty, etc were all on board as well.  Everyone who pussed out on that movement should be banned from bitching about anything basketball related for the duration of the season.  They wanted to "wait and see", now STFU and watch this shitstorm unfold on the court.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 15, 2012, 11:02:21 PM »
There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

I meant by us.

Oh, I know.  I was #teamburnitdown long before it was cool.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 15, 2012, 10:53:09 PM »
There is no tolerance for throwing away a season for the sake of a 'system' in big time athletics any more, especially considering the tepid response to the hire to begin with.

Oh, Brucie won't be shown an ounce of tolerance.

Unfortunately he'll be shown mountains of tolerance by Currie.  Firing him before his contract is up would hurt the bottom line, which is all he cares about.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Fire oscar
« on: December 15, 2012, 09:39:32 PM »
I think many people thought that our half court offense couldn't get worse than it was under Frank.  Those people were wrong.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:45:03 PM »
If the Patriot Act taught us anything, its that responding rapidly with new laws, because of emotion, is not a smart way to govern.

Yes gun violence is completely isolated and brand new.  In Chicago last year 700 people were killed by guns.  That's 700 in one US city.  I'd certainly love to know how many more hundreds of thousands have to die before it stops being a rapid response based on emotion. Is your number 50,000,000?

mine is pretty high.

If you're a liberal, that number is apparently in the billions when it comes to producing and shipping DDT to Africa where almost a million people, 90% under 5 years old, die of malaria every year.  When it comes to banning guns, that number is about 20.

Hey look someone else who can't debate the topic at hand so they employ the two wrongs make a right argument.  Start a thread about malaria, I'll start talking about heart disease, pediatric aids, or some other crap

Just pointing out the usual liberal double standard, which you fell nicely in to.  Thanks for your cooperation.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:43:21 PM »
If the Patriot Act taught us anything, its that responding rapidly with new laws, because of emotion, is not a smart way to govern.

Yes gun violence is completely isolated and brand new.  In Chicago last year 700 people were killed by guns.  That's 700 in one US city.  I'd certainly love to know how many more hundreds of thousands have to die before it stops being a rapid response based on emotion. Is your number 50,000,000?

mine is pretty high.

If you're a liberal, that number is apparently in the billions when it comes to producing and shipping DDT to Africa where almost a million people, 90% under 5 years old, die of malaria every year.  When it comes to banning guns, that number is about 20.

Why does Africa need us to make them DDT?

I have no idea, but the libs have banned it's use and production in the US and severely restricted it's use worldwide, all in the name of some species none of us would even know were gone if they went extinct tomorrow.  We could virtually end malaria within a few years if we wanted to, but apparently African lives are worth 1/1000000th of Connecticut lives.  If that's not the case, explain the media sensation 26 deaths have caused compared to the 2000+ malaria deaths that occur every day?

Why not return to prohibition?  Alcohol related deaths are FAR more prevalent than gun related deaths, and alcohol serves no useful purpose.  You ok with that, or are you going to adhere to the usual double standard?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:35:41 PM »
I'd start by asking the UK and Australia how they did it.

Guns aren't banned in either of those places.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:30:38 PM »
If the Patriot Act taught us anything, its that responding rapidly with new laws, because of emotion, is not a smart way to govern.

Yes gun violence is completely isolated and brand new.  In Chicago last year 700 people were killed by guns.  That's 700 in one US city.  I'd certainly love to know how many more hundreds of thousands have to die before it stops being a rapid response based on emotion. Is your number 50,000,000?

mine is pretty high.

If you're a liberal, that number is apparently in the billions when it comes to producing and shipping DDT to Africa where almost a million people, 90% under 5 years old, die of malaria every year.  When it comes to banning guns, that number is about 20.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 09:13:20 AM »
Quote
According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.
Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.)

In 83.5% of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first -- disproving the myth that having a gun available for defense wouldn't make any difference.

In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors). In 64.2% of these gun-defense cases, the police learned of the defense, which means that the media could also find out and report on them if they chose to.

In 73.4% of these gun-defense incidents, the attacker was a stranger to the intended victim. (Defenses against a family member or intimate were rare -- well under 10%.) This disproves the myth that a gun kept for defense will most likely be used against a family member or someone you love.

In over half of these gun defense incidents, the defender was facing two or more attackers -- and three or more attackers in over a quarter of these cases. (No means of defense other than a firearm -- martial arts, pepper spray, or stun guns -- gives a potential victim a decent chance of getting away uninjured when facing multiple attackers.)

In 79.7% of these gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun. A quarter of the gun defenses occured in places away from the defender's home

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 14, 2012, 10:50:22 PM »
How many children died of malaria today in the world?  Don't dare suggest that we start producing DDT and shipping it to Africa though.

ddt is banned in the us, and severely restricted worldwide.  even though use of ddt can prevent some human deaths, it has other consequences which are considered to also have importance.  good example.

If by "some" you mean "hundreds of thousands" and by "other consequences which are considered to also have importance" you mean "the possible extinction of a bunch of species no one would miss", you are correct.

But lets spend shitloads of time, money, and media coverage on trying to ban guns in the US, because apparently 20 kids in the US and some  bats and frogs are more important than millions of people in Africa.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 14, 2012, 10:44:53 PM »
No one needs a rough ridin' hand gun


Gun manufacturers should go the way of big tobacco

When the home invaders come through your door, get back to me on that.

1) T's & P's on being so afraid of the world
2) according to gun nuts, a knife will do just as well, keep that in your nightstand.

1) T&P for your family whose lives you apparently don't value
2) thanks for making my point

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Re: Another school shooting
« on: December 14, 2012, 10:37:20 PM »
No one needs a rough ridin' hand gun


Gun manufacturers should go the way of big tobacco

When the home invaders come through your door, get back to me on that.

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