I tried to voice my concerns about this team and fan apathy on tos a couple of days ago and got gang raped by a couple of the sunshine pumpers. My point was that if this team does not start putting in the effort, or if Weber does not change things up then the fans wont put in the effort either. I was told that this team is working there butts off and that I was a disgrace and not a "real fan" for even mentioning it. Well, two days later we lay a stinking pile in Seattle and the sunshine boys persist. I'm a church going man, but no Christmas miracle is going to save this season.