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Do you think the team will have to burn the uniforms in Houston so we don't bring the disease and smell they will get from the LSU Lions team back to Kansas?They'll have to, or the entire state of Kansas will smell like corn dogs.
He can’t even figure out how to light it.https://twitter.com/HuskerWave/status/1379473077831098375
They fired this guy
We should hire him to be our cigar smoking coordinator.
Kansas covered the spread. Kill the fatted calf!If there’s such a thing as a good 12 point loss at home to fall to 1-6, this was one.
I’m hoping the alliance forces a max number of schools per conference. Get that along with the 5-6 auto bids they were already talking about and we’re good to go.Why would you penalize teams for playing in a tougher conference?
I’ve been the biggest “no BYU” poster on this bbs, but screw it. I’m in. Will be nice to have some conference foes at the office water cooler. And maybe they can be the new Big 12 villain.
They and UCF will fill the villain roles left by OU and UT quite well. Both fan bases have convinced themselves they are here to save the Big 12 and they will act like that for eternity even though they were just a couple of years ago both programs were bringing in literally couch cushion money in television revenue.
Here we go
https://www.deseret.com/2021/9/10/22666176/big-12-needed-byu-cougars-more-than-byu-needed-it
We definitely need to act better than and dismissal of them. Would be nice to come up with a nickname for the group.The Band-Aids
Yes, but that's not really the point. The conference needs to grab two schools to stay at 10. There's no sense rushing to get to more than that any time soon. There are no brands available other than BYU. The rest are just filler. There's no sense in bloating the conference with them when you have the option to wait and let them compete for your affection for a few years. It's a lot easier to add a worthless school than it is to remove one. Worst case scenario would be having the PAC break open and having no room for the Arizona schools because you already added Memphis and Boise or some similar combination ofI just don't understand the rush to add marginal schools. Go ahead and grab Houston and BYU to start and then just sit tight for a bit. There's no circumstance that leads to the Big XII imploding because they didn't add a couple city schools like Memphis and Cincinnati soon enough. It is possible that something happens to allow a PAC school or two to shake loose.
Also, move the headquarters back to Kansas City. Giving Texas control has provided nothing of value.
You think they should have gotten Houston before UCF?
schools.
Nothing previously agreed to by anyone means anything if the PAC12, big 10, ACC, and SEC come to an agreement on how they want the world to work.This is the correct answer.
LOL at the idea that the NCAA is going to have to allow a busted conference auto bid status. Keep rough ridin that chicken.I thought MIR already covered it, but my impression was that the NCAA couldn’t simply revoke status as an autonomous group based on the fact your conference doesn’t include any blue bloods.Yeah if the theory is strength in numbers I don’t see why either “side” would completely leave out a P5.They won't be.
They can't and I posted two different articles about it but that won't change people from deluding themselves into thinking that little ol' K-State will always get screwed.
Humiliating, if true.Humiliating either way, really.
I'm not running down the Big XII at all. I live in KC and would hate to lose the tournament. I just find it funny that Kansas and Iowa State seem to think that the Big 10 is salivating over the prospect of getting the 7th and 8th picks of teams from the Big 12. If there were 8 schools in the original Big XII that could add value to the Big 10, the conference would have never started to crumble in the first place. Adding Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland has been an unmitigated disaster. Anyone who thinks that adding Kansas and Iowa State is the way to counter the SEC adding Texas and Oklahoma is out of their rough ridin minds.Nebraska has been such an incredible success story for the Big X that you can hardly blame the conference for wanting to go back for seconds and thirds. Who needs Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and A&M when you could have Nebraska, Kansas, and Iowa State? I'll see the SEC's triple header of Texas vs Alabama followed by Oklahoma vs Georgia then A&M vs LSU and raise you Kansas vs Ohio State, Nebraska vs Penn State, and Iowa State vs Michigan.People tend to believe what they want to believe. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes it isn’t.
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For sure, could happen, but i'm having a hard time believing OSU and Michigan are cool with less money per year to play anyone, let alone KU. Who knows though.
It's really funny listening to MooZoo fans talk crap on Big XII. IIRC your team got their ass kicked for close to 30 yrs from K-State and were crying to the BIG to take you to get away from yearly beatings.
Nebraska has been such an incredible success story for the Big X that you can hardly blame the conference for wanting to go back for seconds and thirds. Who needs Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and A&M when you could have Nebraska, Kansas, and Iowa State? I'll see the SEC's triple header of Texas vs Alabama followed by Oklahoma vs Georgia then A&M vs LSU and raise you Kansas vs Ohio State, Nebraska vs Penn State, and Iowa State vs Michigan.People tend to believe what they want to believe. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes it isn’t.
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For sure, could happen, but i'm having a hard time believing OSU and Michigan are cool with less money per year to play anyone, let alone KU. Who knows though.
I had a chance to read Dodd's article in a non speed read fashion and it sounds pretty legit, for once he may have actually nailed the business side.Everything Texas and Oklahoma have said about this is very careful to reference 2025. If there's a coordinated strategy between the schools and ESPN, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't use the same language. There's a very obvious "wink wink" at the end, but that disclaimer is likely enough for plausible deniability. They'll just say the strategy was for whenever the schools leave, and the schools say they're leaving when the contract is up.
Some the easiest dots on the planet to connect at this point relative to what they are trying to do.
ESPN/OU/Texas need total Big 12 implosion to wholly avoid either a non desired protracted exit, or an expensive rapid exit. As of now, they're negotiating from the highest number in order to get out early if the Orphaned 8 hold fast.
from TTU rivals guyIt makes perfect sense that USC would want to leave the PAC as currently constructed but would be lured back if Texas Tech and the west Texas market were to stroll into town.QuoteI cannot confirm all of the details below and, therefore, I am not reporting the following. I want to be very clear about that. But you all subscribe to RRS in large part because you want an inside look at what is going on with Texas Tech athletics, and there's obviously a lot going on. This is an instance, and there will likely be more instances like this in the coming days and weeks, where I feel good enough about certain details lining up with what I've heard elsewhere to pass it along. Let's call it informed chatter.
I spoke with a long-time source with close ties to Oklahoma State today. Here's what he told me:
... Mike Holder, Oklahoma State's former athletic director, has been working with various individuals at Texas Tech with the objective of getting the Red Raiders and Cowboys into the Pac-12.
... Oklahoma State may have a chance at a Big Ten invitation.
... If Oklahoma State goes to the Pac-12 with Texas Tech, it would likely be as part of a foursome that includes Kansas and Kansas State.
... If Oklahoma State ends up in the Big Ten, then Texas Tech, TCU and two others would end up in the Pac-12.
... The source thinks that Oklahoma State wants to stay linked with Texas Tech but that only happens with the Pac-12.
... The reports that the Big Ten is considering USC is great news for Texas Tech and possibly Oklahoma State because Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff will want to keep USC happy and expansion into Texas does that.
... Nothing will happen until the SEC officially accepts Oklahoma and Texas as members, which could happen on Friday at some point. That will get the ball rolling.
see you at Sugarfish for sush brahs
The Big 12 needs to worry less about finding some theoretical school to add that will boost the profile of the conference (there aren't any) and looking for another conference like the AAC to partner with instead. The only way anyone will care about the conference is it it's part of the playoff formula. The auto bid is as good as gone, but maybe the conference champion can play the champion of a sister conference for a guaranteed spot.Explain to me how this makes sense in your head? You think the Big 12 schools are going to leave the Big 12 for the MWC or AAC?
This dude has these eight schools voluntarily disbanding their own conference for a conference with smaller markets and a smaller media deal. LOL what is going on with some of you?
Why/how would the remaining 8 schools stick together? When OU and UT leave, and our existing TV contract is up, we won't be able to command the money anymore.
I guess we don't HAVE to leave, but we'll drop to G5 money and TV deals either way.
Because the Big 12 has autonomy status. And whatever the new Big 12 looks like would definitely have a better media deal than either the aac or mwc, combined.
What is autonomy status and who controls it? I would think it can be snatched away with our only top tier schools leaving.
The NCAA controls it, and it isn't going away, however it won't stop the usual trolls, alarmists, conspiracy theorists, and dramatists from acting like the NCAA will meet tomorrow just to screw the Big 12.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11321551/ncaa-board-votes-allow-autonomy-five-power-conferences
That article is 7 years old. At any rate our Revenue is about to take a 25 million dollar annual haircut.
Why would the article need to be newer, it's established law in college athletics? Do we need a current article explaining 12 men's basketball scholarships?
Also why did you bring up what you think our revenue is going to be? You asked about what autonomy is, and I showed you apparently that isn't enough to stop the panic so we're going to talk about projected revenue. Well, the initial point was to show the two reasons why it's ridiculous to think the Big 12 schools would just join the aac. I gave you your two reasons, autonomy and the Big 12s significantly higher media rights payout.
since you seem to have all the answers, whats your solution for the big 12 to continue functioning, while still paying out 35m/year to its' members? Once UT and OU leave that money goes with them.
The Big 12 functioning has nothing to do with payouts. The Big 12 schools will get less money when this deal is over, whether it's in 2022 or 2025. The worst case scenario is the most likely one and that's we take on some group of 5 schools and the payout gets reduced to an AAV of, let's say $17 million. My response is, so what? Why should that matter to you? We've made big money since this last media deal was done, what has that done for your fan experience? Did you have more fun watching games in 1999 when we were broke or in 2020 when we got more tv money than USC, Clemson, and Oregon? Whose fans are happier now, Memphis fans or Tennessee fans, Cincinnati fans or Syracuse fans?
All of this money we've made the past decade is just bloat. It isn't going to you and me and it isn't going to the athletes. We'll be fine. I know it sucks hearing people around the country acting like your school is like Tulane and Tulsa sucks, but we'll be fine.
There's some rich irony about our fans in particular, who have spent the better part of the last decade pining for the 90's, now freaking out because our revenue will fall back and we'll be broke, just like we were when we all fell in love with Kansas State.
I think as it stands now, yes this is possible, and probably the best scenario save PAC texting us the address to the party. If some combo of KU, ISU, OSU leave for the big 10 then this is all out the window and it's everyone for themselves.
I do still think for there to be any sort of viability the B12 needs to find a major program to add, whether it be someone like BYU or trying to persuade a current P5 program to jump ship.
