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Kansas State Football / Re: What Would Our Current Record Be If Daniel Sams Was QB The Majority Of Snaps?
« on: November 05, 2013, 07:04:13 PM »
Maybe 6-2 with a more experienced Sams running the show against Baylor.
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Kansas State Football / Re: What Would Our Current Record Be If Daniel Sams Was QB The Majority Of Snaps?
« on: November 05, 2013, 07:03:33 PM »
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Kansas State Football / Re: Bowl Game v Nebraska
« on: October 28, 2013, 07:48:14 PM »Just what is a "steffy?"A boner in North Dakota.
LOL. Holy crap that made me laugh.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:57:58 PM »I hope the guy is ok
I think regardless, everybody can agree on that. Sending more positive thoughts that way.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:29:42 PM »Quotewhat the eff did any of you expect to happen?So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday? Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?
I was just as concerned for him as every time I've seen a football player have a life threatening injury. I felt a pit in my stomach and I reaffirmed with my 7 year old son standing next to me that he was not allowed to play football for the reasons he was also witnessing.
He wasn't playing football. I sincerely hope you're lying about your 7 year old son, my 4 year old daughter knew he wasn't playing football.
Well hopefully, your daughter was smart enough to draw the comparison between a person being tackled and a football player.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:25:38 PM »Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.
Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"
Someone help me out with the point here
You know when you see a poll where the question is something like Is fire hot and only 98% of the people say yes, I've always wondered the mindset of the other 2%, guess I'm seeing it now.
The point is, did you not realize it was dangerous before? If so - why the outrage now? I thought everyone understood this was someone risking their health for your entertainment.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:21:44 PM »Absolutely did watch it happen and immediately said, "He's either knocked out cold or something is broken." I'm not going to sit here and say that I wasn't scared for that kid, but i'm also not going to immediately call for the skit to end. After he walked off the field with a little bit of help and had proper medical attention, I watched the game.
I feel like I'm debating a 3rd grader. Why do you think the spear is necessary for the skit? You do realize the spear and the skit are mutually exclusive, right?
I don't; And I feel like you're not reading my posts. I don't think anyone has the right to dictate what another person voluntarily does to their body. If you want to make a list or something for people to sign who could do without the willie tackle, I'll sign it. But I'm not about to demand another person not do something they may want to do.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:18:27 PM »So now that it's clear that the midfield tackle is pretty dangerous those of us who weren't that worried about it before should stick to our previous opinions out of stubbornness?Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.
Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"
It's okay to let new experiences change the way you think about certain things.
Oh I see, so people that aren't smart enough to realize someone might get hurt after getting speared, they are just dumb asses with no foresight... That explains why I'm having this debate with you clowns. Here's another shocker for you, if you piss on an electric fence, it will feel like your dick is getting ripped off.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:15:00 PM »"Hey you volunteer to eat so you should be responsible for what you eat."
I know this will shock the hell out if you, but yes. But let's not get too far off topic.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:11:36 PM »Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.
Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:04:54 PM »Quotewhat the eff did any of you expect to happen?So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday? Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?
I was just as concerned for him as every time I've seen a football player have a life threatening injury. I felt a pit in my stomach and I reaffirmed with my 7 year old son standing next to me that he was not allowed to play football for the reasons he was also witnessing.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Need a hotel for the weekend? I'm your guy.
« on: October 28, 2013, 05:00:17 PM »hey you jerks- this isnt a joke. i need to get rid of this hotel room...
oh and its got 2 queens in it and you cant smoke cigs in the hotel room but you can just outside the lobby.
Did the queens not charge you or something?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:53:50 PM »MiR did it better than I could have.
Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.
I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.
Are they forced to be in this position? Because if so, I reverse my stance.
Why are you having such a hard time coming off of this simple minded point? I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield? The 53,000 people that saw the skit didn't volunteer to see a non football player, seemingly at the time, dying on the field. In addition to the obvious nightmare fuel to the fans and liability risk to the university, the skit is really dated and played. They have been doing that for at least 6 years in a row, it won't be missed.
So now there's a difference between football players and non football players potentially dying?
What I can't get off of, is if someone "wants" to get speared, I really don't care. I'm making an issue of it, because these are the same conversations that lead to talks about changing rules, that in my opinion, ruin sports. Look, I won't allow my kid to play football while he is under 18/my responsibility. But if people are going to do this activity, you bet your ass I will watch. Same reason people rubberneck at car accidents, it's human nature. I don't even really care about the skit - but Jesus, what the eff did any of you expect to happen? Are we going to switch to flag football when a player gets hauled off seizing up after a bad hit? What about the players that live for the thrill of contact sports?
Keep the skit optional, have no consequence for someone opting out, sign a waiver and let people do what they want to do.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:25:55 PM »
Don't bring emotion into a debate founded on logic. What the eff does someone's political leanings have to do with this?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:21:51 PM »MiR did it better than I could have.
Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.
I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.
Are they forced to be in this position? Because if so, I reverse my stance.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:20:37 PM »
God dammit shell shock.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:18:39 PM »good lord, shut up
Good lord, everyone else shut up. You guys are the ones crying about someone getting hurt during an entertaining skit that requires physical contact.
That isn't the point, you rough ridin' moron. First of all the willie skit or and other skit don't require someone getting speared. No one is advocating for the removal of all skits, just one that doesn't require someone to be maimed. Who rough ridin' cares if he volunteered to get hit, you think it is a good idea for the university to allow that massive liability risk to continue? There are lots of stupid things people would volunteer to do that wouldn't be a good idea for the school to showcase at midfield of a football game.
I also find it hilarious that these two morons are calling those of us that were actually there to see it soft because we were affected by thinking we were seeing a kid die in front of our faces. No one is impressed by your moronic false bravado, most people who chime in with that bullshit are giant pussies.
It was an accident, there were no victims; if this event shows anything, it's that future participants should be required to sign a liability waiver with an understanding that they know the risks they are taking.
Whatever.
If people want to do crazy crap - they're welcome to. I'm not even involving myself in this discussion for the purpose of disclosing who is being a pussy or not. I just think it's absurd when people think they know what's best for other people.
I don't know a rough ridin' thing about you MIR or anyone else here. But if someone needs to get their rocks off by being speared on the 50 yard line in front of 50,000 people. Who the eff cares?
Now, if someone would like to continue this discussion under the correct observation that this kid was not forced by the university, (or falsely led to believe he could not be injured), I'm all ears. But stop suggesting this kid was a victim.
What are you guys doing at a football game if you get all emotional while watching an 18-21 year old kids putting themselves in position to potentially lay on a field dying in front of 50,000 people? It's a contact sport - people die. You might see it sometime and it will be tragic, but it the natural consequence of playing contact sports and subsequently watching them.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 03:45:54 PM »good lord, shut up
Good lord, everyone else shut up. You guys are the ones crying about someone getting hurt during an entertaining skit that requires physical contact.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 03:32:52 PM »
And if Willie misses and the bullet hits some kid in the stands, it's the kid's fault. That kid knew what he/she was getting into when he/she walked into BSFS.
Your blurring of the line between willing participant and bystander/victim, although hilarious, is not at all relevant and pretty ridiculous. The fact that you're attempting to draw comparison between someone who knowingly agreed to be put into a situation where they could be harmed and someone who only agreed to be entertained is incredibly irresponsible.
Your hypothetical would only have merit if willie tackled the willing participant so hard, that he flew into the crowd and injured innocent bystanders.
It was an accident, there were no victims; if this event shows anything, it's that future participants should be required to sign a liability waiver with an understanding that they know the risks they are taking.
Do I care if this willie skit continues? No. I sure as crap wouldn't sign up for it and I would strongly discourage anyone from doing so. I will however, watch and be entertained at people willing to sacrifice their bodies for the purpose of entertainment/competition.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 28, 2013, 02:50:18 PM »The Willie tackles have to stop, ShellShock. We can't have KSU students getting Coach Kill'd in front of a packed house while 50,000+ screaming fans cheer while he convulses on the powercat. It's just some dumb skit and you really won't miss it.
Might as well stop playing football also...I mean, players have concussions/broken bones/knocked out all the time and people get tackled out there too right? Heck, tailgating in the parking lot seems dangerous as well because there are cars driving around in the same area that people are running around and having a good time right? Better yet, the drive to BSFS is dangerous because cars are unreliable. Soon enough, nobody will want to leave their home to do anything. See what i'm getting at here? There are risks with everything whether it be volunteering in a skit, to playing, to driving, to whatever.
It was/is a sad thing what happened to that kid don't get me wrong, but everyone taking it way out of proportion is a little crazy if you ask me.
Yeah. We see what you're getting at here. Still not worth it.
Not really anyone's place to say what is or is not worth "it" - other than the person being tackled. As stated above, he knew the risk while signing up, unless this was all against his will. If you don't think it's worth it to you, then don't step on the field. Who knows, getting tackled in front of 53,000 people on the powercat at BSFS may be this kids life long dream. Who the eff are you to deny him that?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 27, 2013, 06:51:47 PM »
So... Why hasn't anyone posted video yet? I couldn't see him on the ground through the band from the NEZ
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Kansas State Football / Re: Willie Skits
« on: October 26, 2013, 07:34:38 PM »
Willie knocked the piss out of that mountaineer; Pretty sure he died in the ambulance.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Another One For Our Guy Daniel
« on: October 14, 2013, 08:28:55 AM »well the last two games he came in on the second play so that scheme is used upLife starts the rest of the season knuckleheads
I'm not so sure. I think Sams will get the majority of snaps from now on, but Snyder is going to play Waters. Waters probably gets a couple more starts.
depends entirely on what what was promised to waters. "I promise you'll be the starter for the first 6 games.... I promise you'll start the whole season.... yada yada yada..."
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Kansas State Football / Don't forget who started the game.
« on: October 05, 2013, 06:09:15 PM »
Another loss for waters. :smh:
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Kansas State Football / Re: So... we've seen Jack suck at running the ball
« on: October 05, 2013, 04:40:23 PM »
Hahaha!!!! eff anyone that's ever said "maybe the coaches have a reason for not letting Sams throw."