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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: MAGA
« on: July 02, 2020, 11:18:06 PM »what part of that did you consider "hate" someone who makes me uncomfortable?
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: MAGA
« on: July 02, 2020, 11:13:50 PM »hey eastcat, what's the draw to post here? there are, unfortunately, a lot of like minded kansas state places to be how you are on with your fellows. just curious.
Why the hate for different opinions?
Serious question. Posted here for 10 years and I can't remember this level of intolerance on goEMAW.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: the stupidity of ksu
« on: July 02, 2020, 11:08:19 PM »KSU is now receiving desist letters from first amendment foundations.Yeah, speaking out against racism is a terrible look. 100% agree.
Great look guys.
woof
what is racism? Does it only apply to black athletes?
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Re: the stupidity of ksu
« on: July 02, 2020, 11:05:07 PM »KSU is now receiving desist letters from first amendment foundations.
Great look guys.
woof
Already on the short list of NRA Collegiate Coalition schools with Coal Aggie.
First amendment, not second.
Freedom of speech infringement. For sports players appeasement. If that doesn't say backwoods loser school status, I don't know what does.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: the stupidity of ksu
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:42:44 PM »
KSU is now receiving desist letters from first amendment foundations.
Great look guys.
woof
Great look guys.
woof
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:24:01 PM »Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?
For who?
I haven't seen the school do anything for Asian, Hispanic, Indian or middle eastern students. Really students at all, just bending over backwards for athletes who make a scene.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: July 01, 2020, 08:56:20 PM »Here I have an idea, match every scholarship you grant an african american student athlete with 5 more just like it for african american non athletes. That would feel a little more genuine. pffft of color my ass!
I LOVE the idea of more scholarships for non-athletes.
maga
No maga here, bro. Just a fan of more scholarships for scholars.
You mean like earning them for what you know and not what you look like?
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: July 01, 2020, 08:54:53 PM »I can def hear the grumbling throughout the stadium, though. I don’t think it would last for a whole season though. Most people resistant to the phrase Black Lives Matter haven’t put much time into trying to understand it.
You won't hear anything in the stadium, it will be empty.
If you want to support the NAACP, it's legit go ahead.
BLM advocates violence and killing cops. WOOF.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 30, 2020, 11:37:24 AM »Remember how bothered gE posters get when they'd see the "racist piece of crap" tag in their profile here?
KSU as a university can't brand a student that, but the community can. Long before the tweet, EMAW's and MHK'rs should've been pointing the kid out everywhere he goes and announcing there goes the racist piece of crap.
What? How immature of behavior is that?
This event with GF was originally about police brutality. That was a valid conclusion and concern. It has been hijacked into a society engineering wealth redistribution plan like Zimbabwe.
All dissent bullied and shouted down in the name of racism.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 03:21:24 PM »Alright possibly racist posters Purplewood and Eastcat, group up with me.
The question isn't whether or not it was a joke, or if it was a joke, whether or not it was funny. The question is, how much oxygen do you give a single, insensitive tweet? And on what basis is that response justified? The marketplace of ideas will work itself out.
Depends if you have popular/famous people totally lost in their emotions or not.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 03:14:01 PM »https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66060QuoteUniversities have always been places where controversial ideas can be widely shared and discussed. Our goal, embedded in our Principles of Community, is that this discourse be civil, with participants being treated with dignity and respect. We want every student on our campuses, as well as all faculty and staff, to know they are safe and to be treated with respect and common decency. These have been our values since our founding. There is no place on our campuses for racism, hate and bigotry.
Or jokes apparently.
The left loves talk and speech until it's words they don't like. Then it must be suppressed, rejected, controlled, punished.
It has to be one of the most blatant double standards in modern political discourse.
I mean, there might be an example out there, but outside of maybe serial killers and war criminals can you think of a “joke” about a recent dead guy that was well received by either end of the political spectrum?
It’s in extremely poor taste either way, but considering the source and the race conversations surrounding Floyd the tweet was basically a dog whistle into a megaphone.
Like when Dave Chappelle made a skit on "Not believing" Michael Jackson's child molestation accusers? OR his skits on OJ murdering his wife?
You guys can't define a threshold on this, because it's a double standard.
George Floyd met an unfair and unjust death, but that doesn't make the man a saint. Even if he were the most nobel person in history, endorsing a public university to control a students private twitter account is absurd.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 02:54:41 PM »https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66060LOL no one believes it was a joke. no one. it wasn't . and i would ask why all my republican conservative friends most non KSU grads reject this kid's tweet too. in fact i can't find anyone anywhere on the political spectrum that didn't reject the comments and hope they never have to see something similar again. so it doesn't appear to be a "left" thing. it appears to be a human thing. i'm almost positive if asked that even Trump would reject this type of speech. so i'm not sure who is left. is there anybody in your pocket? or you by yourself?QuoteUniversities have always been places where controversial ideas can be widely shared and discussed. Our goal, embedded in our Principles of Community, is that this discourse be civil, with participants being treated with dignity and respect. We want every student on our campuses, as well as all faculty and staff, to know they are safe and to be treated with respect and common decency. These have been our values since our founding. There is no place on our campuses for racism, hate and bigotry.
Or jokes apparently.
The left loves talk and speech until it's words they don't like. Then it must be suppressed, rejected, controlled, punished.
It has to be one of the most blatant double standards in modern political discourse.
Who decides if it was a joke? The joke court or the joke police?
"Hello joke Judge, we have alot of really sensitive people around here, I need you to rule if this joke was a thought crime or not. According to the plaintiff, he didn't find it funny."
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 02:50:40 PM »https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66060did kansas state have a racism problem before last Friday? i mean i know most racism is hidden and spoken behind closed doors but the way these things are written make it sound like we have a problem that maybe others dont have. there is no reference to national perspectives. i'm glad they are putting down some plans for that this is good. but isn't it amazing what 1 punk ass kid on social platform a platform famous for bad purposes can do to the image of hundreds of thousands of other people with no association to the kid? if ksu can flip this thing from a negative to a positive then hats off to them.
An update from Dick
KSU mostly had a hoax hate crime issue that painted it in a bad light.
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article221373355.html
Both incidents garnered national public attention and damaged the university's reputation. Neither were punished or prosecuted. I suspect Jaden won't have the same outcome, due to the color of his skin.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 02:41:07 PM »
https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66060
Or jokes apparently.
The left loves talk and speech until it's words they don't like. Then it must be suppressed, rejected, controlled, punished.
It has to be one of the most blatant double standards in modern political discourse.
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Universities have always been places where controversial ideas can be widely shared and discussed. Our goal, embedded in our Principles of Community, is that this discourse be civil, with participants being treated with dignity and respect. We want every student on our campuses, as well as all faculty and staff, to know they are safe and to be treated with respect and common decency. These have been our values since our founding. There is no place on our campuses for racism, hate and bigotry.
Or jokes apparently.
The left loves talk and speech until it's words they don't like. Then it must be suppressed, rejected, controlled, punished.
It has to be one of the most blatant double standards in modern political discourse.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 02:24:44 PM »At risk of being labeled a racist, I also cringe when college coaches openly endorse Black Lives Matter. I think very few people know what this actual group stands for or what it's endgame really is. But, questioning the group -- is out of the question -- and is only done by 'racists'.
it means that black lives matter, not terribly difficult to comprehend
woof
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Mr. Johnson, who was black, told police negotiators that “he was upset about Black Lives Matter,” Chief Brown said. “He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”
5 dead, 9 injured. How soon we forget.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: MAGA
« on: June 29, 2020, 10:37:33 AM »I mean this is so very sad and racist. "Honey grab your gun we got a parade of colored folk walking by the house yelling things."
The rioters broke down their fence and were in their yard. After the looting, burning and destruction I'd be protecting my crap too.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 29, 2020, 10:31:09 AM »https://twitter.com/CoachKli/status/1277393564650164226
Hopefully he can win in front of an empty BSFS.
Like it or not the program only exists because the fans pay for it. Not because the players play for it.
Most KSU fans do not support BLM or its race-revenge pandering narrative. Telling the average white Kansan they're evil and then asking for a donation won't play out like you think it will.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 28, 2020, 08:48:53 PM »
On a serious note, this season would be a great opportunity to end football at the college level.
We know its dangerous. This is a convenient place to stop.
We know its dangerous. This is a convenient place to stop.
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: MAGA
« on: June 28, 2020, 08:46:23 PM »K-State is doing the right thing. Good lawd some of you people shouldn’t be allowed to run anything. You’d have your entity sued into oblivion in about 4 days.
It's worth getting sued for. Let's say they cut him a check for $600,000. You think that's going to be more than the amount they lose from student recruitment and donations for this guy sticking around and continuing to drag the school into this? $600,000 in tuition, books, room, and board, is literally like 5 students, they've probably already lost that. How much money and reputation damage has already been done? People are sending pictures of the most prominent black woman on campus in a noose. The only way to stop this circus is to get him the hell away from any university association, let him transfer to liberty or oral roberts.
I get the racists wanting the university to do nothing, but business wise, there is no argument for keeping this guy here.
How much did KSU lose when the previous two KSU 'hate crimes' were later found out to be hoaxes, perpetrated by their own 'victims' for political purposes? You know, to intentionally drag the university through the mud?
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article221373355.html
The school went through a ton of s*** for that. Public condemnation on a national level, holding solidarity rallies.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 28, 2020, 07:23:41 PM »Why was my post deleted?
Did eastcat actually have a post deleted?
Yep. Asked Michigan cat why he hated the constitution so much.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Status/Twitter/Whatever steve dave Wants To Talk About Thread
« on: June 28, 2020, 03:33:21 PM »If kstate says his behaviors violate the code of conduct then what’s recourse does he have?
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If he sues, they would have to prove it.
K State is a government institution in the eyes of the courts. The bar is far higher than we think/want/feel.
Jaden hoodwinked the university via twitter and the surgeons on the football team. He's going to get rich.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 28, 2020, 03:27:43 PM »You're making a gigantic reach if you are classifying that tweet as harassment.
If I tweet out something derogatory about Jesus, am I harrasing Christians?
I'd guess the idea would be to expand the behavior to include things outside of that tweet as well.
Yes, and also to consider the environment we're in. If he'd made the same joke about someone like say, Prince, no one would have noticed. It was very targeted and part of a pattern.
You can interpret almost anything as a pattern. Incredibly short sighted precedence to set.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 28, 2020, 03:25:31 PM »
Why was my post deleted?
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 27, 2020, 10:01:27 PM »If KSU implements an anti-racism policy to expel this POS, I would donate significantly more than usual if the University ends up in a court battle over it. If there was ever a time to test free speech laws against anti racism policies, this is it.
The tweet itself IMO is just distasteful. But the fact it comes from a racist absolutely elevates it to a racist statement.
Why do liberals hate the constitution so much? Is that piece of paper racist too? Did it hurt your feelings?
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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« on: June 27, 2020, 09:57:51 PM »Apparently twitter gave him a 12 hour timeout today
And the people who threatened him?
This is a really bad hill for the players to die on. A George Floyd joke on twitter?
GMAFB.
If that's the direction its going to go, lets shut down sports for a year and let all the schollys go. This season is going to be a dud financially anyways.