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FFF was the definition of EMAW. I knew him and his sister and brother. Great people all around. The best of people. Fatty loved Snyder and it's only poetic justice that this team last year went 10-3 the same year fatty passed away. There was no bigger K-Stater than fatty4ksu.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« on: December 23, 2011, 03:19:43 PM »
Does anyone remember when Les took a bunch of DITR's and kicked the ever loving crap out of Bill's most talented team of all time?
You mean the game where Ell came back too early from injury and looked like he was on 5 times the recommended dose of oxy so he didn't feel the pain from his torn rotator cuff? Yeah, I remember that game.

Miles's best year at OSU was that 9-4 season, and his overall conference record at OSU was 16-16. Even LSU's best years prior to this one, Miles never lost less than 2 games. With the kind of talent he had the year they won the title, he should have mowed the road with every team on his schedule, but he somehow managed to lose to an unranked Arkansas team and a middle tier Kentucky team.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« on: December 23, 2011, 10:51:06 AM »
ask yourself this- If Miles coached the Wildcats this year how many games do we win.  If snyder coached the tigers how many?

 Theres your answer.

If Miles had three years at KSU to build his program we are Big 12 champs this year.  Snyder at LSU the last 3 years and they are a mid tier SEC team.  It's pretty clear. 
This is both comical and ignorant. Miles never even won the South at LSU so what would make you possibly think he could win the Big XII at KSU in 3 years? Even the year he won the MNC he lost 2 games with a team far more talented than the ones he lost to.

If Snyder had gone to LSU or Bama back in '89 instead of here the man would have rewritten all the records. Bama would've taken Bear Bryants name off the stadium and replaced it with Snyder's.

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Our relationship with Fort Scott is not a good one and has not been for sometime. We've had exactly one recruit from there in the last 8 recruiting classes (Rob Jackson), and I don't think that's cooincidence.

Lavonte David was a guy that seemed like he was on our radar early last year, as was Davis, and soon thereafter their recruitment fell off. I've been told that the coaches there have purposefully steered players away from KSU, to Nebraska in the case of David.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Tre Walker looked good in mop up duty.
« on: October 15, 2010, 03:35:12 PM »
He needs to add 30-40 Ibs, but he will be a good one for us down the road. Him and Arthur at linebacker is a move in the right direction.

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Wabash-  How many times did you watch him play?  


You don't simply get it, do you?  Unlike Special K, I don't pretend to be a college football talent evaluator.

I do trust a coaching staff at Boston College who also happened to recruit Matt Ryan and another one in ECU more than a I do some random douche on a message board when it comes to talent analysis, however.

Tard logic is going to one fracking JUCO game at Fort Scott, watching the dude play and writing off all his ability on your clipboard like you're some sort of fracking expert.

I'll tell you what I am qualified to grasp is that we had three QB's on scholarship last year and none of them could beat out a transfer from South Florida with one arm that transferred to the program in August.  It takes a monkey to identify this is a critical recruiting need.

At the end of the day, this isn't about Dominique Davis.  Davis is one part of an overall systemic problem.  But, not surprisingly this is too complex for you to understand.  Nobody is saying this guy is the next Joe Montana, you dumbass.

What we're saying is, at least offer the kid a scholarship.  shazbot!, take a flier.  Is he the best JUCO quarterback in the land?  Probably not.  Is he better than most of the options you've currently got on your roster and would he generate some competition at the very least?  Yes.  

It's not the end of the world to not land Davis.  The problem is not landing anything at the position, when there were a number of obviously viable options available out there last season outside of Cameron Newton (Davis being one of them) , and then just throwing your fracking hands up in the air when you strike out on your supposed top choice that was a pipe dream to begin with.




I saw him play twice in person, and by you and dax sitting here and pointing to one game with some scewed stats (a game which you probably didn't even watch) against a weak opponent you're doing exactly what you claim I'm doing--i.e. pretending to be a talent evaluator. At least I can say I've seen the kid play in person twice.

I'm not disagreeing that our QB recruiting is abysmal, but you don't go offering every kid with two arms and plays juco ball somewhere. Like I said, there were other options at QB in addition to Cam Newton that I was hoping we would make a push for that we didn't go after or didn't get. I don't hold it against our coaches for not offering Davis, though, because, in all honesty, I don't think he's a Big XII talent (not saying our own QBs are either, for clarification) and I'll stand by that statement.

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Talking football with Dax is like talking pork with Saul.  fracking pointless.

1000 plus yards and 10 TD's in four starts at the D1 level . . . meanwhile Carsy Coffman will be lucky to duplicate that in 12 starts.  400 yards plus of total offense in his first start under a brand new coaching staff in a brand new system.  

You're an incredible dumbass.

Oh but wait, how many offers did he have coming out of Ft. Scott??  The Tard logic of jtksu.   Hey look at all the guys K-State was after last year . . . and how many did they get, the Dumb and Dumber coaches kid out of Maryland. 






And look at his stats while at Fort Scott. There's a reason why no major DI-A programs offered the kid outside of ECU.

Tard logic is thinking that one decent game against TULSA, where BTW, the opposing QB outgained Davis in passing yards, completion percentage, and had the same TD:Int ratio, makes a great QB. I guess we probably should've offered Tulsa's Kinne too? LOL

Quality post, dax. Maybe do a little research before you try trying to justify idiotic statements the next time.

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Yes.  We should have offered every single JUCO qb in the country that was better than Coffman and signed one of them.

Davis.  Not good enough for Special K, but good enough for Boston College and ECU.  You're right. 



Seriously man, you should just stop now. You act like Boston College and ECU are powerhouse programs. It's not like USC or Miami offered this kid and we completely blew him off. He was not a talent in the juco ranks, and anybody that follows KS Jayhawk conference juco football or knew anything about him would agree.

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...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?


Right, and how many other BCS programs don't have a single legitimate D-1 QB on their roster?  Just name a couple.

Are you seriously going to tell me that you think Dominique Davis is a worse option that Carson fracking Coffman?




Have you even seen Davis play? I have, and there were better options out there than him. Look at his numbers and at least do some research on the guy before you go touting him as the the savior of the K-State QB position.

Coffman could have been unseated by MANY JUCO QBs in the last year's class, so by your logic we should have offered every single one of them?!? Comical

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Holy $hit . . . now it even gets worse.  I had no idea on the back story on this kid.   He started 3 F'ing games at BC as a Redshirt Freshman with Steve Logan as the QB coach.

So we had a guy at Ft. Scott, he started 3 games at BC, only left because of academic issues, even though he could have, he didn't sign with ECU in Feb. because of Holtz leaving . . . and K-State never even offered.

 :flush:
...and neither did about 115 other Div-IA programs, but what do all those coaches know anyways?

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Yeah, my all time favorite tard talking point from last season post-rationalizing Snyder's QB recruiting failure was that Cameron Newton was the ONLY juco quarterback on the planet worthy of a scholarship offer.  Still love it.  Cam Newton or bust, because everyone else is worthless - more worthless than three quarterbacks currently on the roster that wouldn't start for Washburn.
And if you had seen Davis play, you would be saying he wouldn't start for Washburn either. There were other QBs in last year's JUCO class I was hoping our coaches would make a stronger push for in addition to Newton, and Davis wasn't one of them.

Like I said, the kid had size and average speed for a dual-threat and that was about it. There's a reason why ECU was his only offer, and if they took a chance on him and it pays off, props to them to taking a roll of the dice and succeeding.

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Garrett and 3 other dudes are from FSCC. :dunno:

Correct. That's how we stumbled upon this Davis during the recruiting season last year. No one could figure out why we didn't go after him until someone suggested that he was just a product of his teammates being too dominant...which is obviously insane.
I got a chance to watch him play twice last season, once in the Jayhawk conference championship game against Butler, and once in the national championship game vs. Blinn.

I'm glad to see the kid is having some success at the DI-A level, but I was unimpressed with him both outings and thought our coaches made the rigth decision in not offering him. He had the size of a prototypical college QB and moved pretty well but lacked vision, was inaccurate, and did little to make me think he would succeed at this level.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and looking at what we got and how he did in his first game, it's easy to say we should've offered, but, at the time, there was no reason to think he would be successful at as a BCS starting QB.

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