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Kansas State Football / Re: Fiesta vs. Oregon

« on: December 22, 2012, 11:01:52 AM »

Oregon's Nick Cody sidelined for the game...sucks for the senior but oh well I will take anything that will help us out 


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21440035/oregon-lineman-nick-cody-sideline-for-fiesta-bowl-by-academics

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official Klein for Heisman (Kleinsman) Thread

« on: December 07, 2012, 04:04:56 PM »

Exactly, Klein had 1 bad game thats it. Maybe thats where my butthurtness stems from. All it took was that one bad game for everyone to forget the rest of the season then the ESPN hype machine was in full effect for JM. I just hope Teo steals it from him somehow

YES.  One bad game was all it needed to take for Klein this year. 

Everyone was willing to look past his otherwise less than mindblowing statistics (that heisman winners usually have) if he could have gotten K-State to a national championship.  Klein's whole deal is "he's consistent and he's a winner," well against Baylor, he blew it. 

We played fewer teams that are horrible.  He played more teams that are better than our best team.  He also had far better numbers than Klein.

A&M lost 2 of those 3....K-State won both

So that somehow makes K-State's schedule harder?

No, the fact we played pretty much double the amount of bowl teams makes it a harder schedule.

Right, but "bowl teams" is just another metric.  Why should "bowl teams" be more important than "BCS bowl teams," or "currently ranked" teams, or "10 win" teams? 

Granted, K-State's SOS is 13 and A&M's is 29th.  BUT that difference is relatively marginal and Klein has far worse statistics.  SOS is only part of it.  Wins is only a part of it.  But only a part, that's why Golden at ND (8th SOS, undefeated) isn't a heisman contender.

You have to be in the NC or have the numbers.  Klein doesn't have either.  Manziel does.

I am not going to get into all of this again I took apart these talking points earlier in the week.  Dlew if you're going to call people dumbasses and the such you need to reassess a couple of things, namely that Klein had a bad game against Baylor thus disqualifying him/not making him worthy to win the Heisman.

Klein did not have a horrible game against Baylor.  Not using the standard of other Klein games this season, not using the standard of Manziel games, and not using the standard by other dual threat QBs who historically won the Heisman minus Cam Newton.  Klein had 3 TDs and nearly 300 yards passing, you won't have to look hard to find worse games by the three groups I mentioned in the previous sentence.  Yes, he threw three picks which was his high, but goodness it isn't historically awful and we shouldn't make it out to be.  And losing late also historically doesn't matter as far as winning the Heisman so please don't mention that again.

This isn't about whether Klein is worthy of winning the Heisman.  Their standard is ambiguous, and there have been recent winners with worse numbers.  There is always an argument for who is or isn't worthy that can be made for anyone.  This is about people using lazy arguments to justify who they think is best, it angers me when some dumbass fat, cheet-o eating sports writer does this.  It makes me rage filled when a K-Stater uses the same dumb argument to try to cut down other K-Staters who want something good for their school and a guy who busted his ass for five years.

Would I have voted for Klein in I lived in Seattle and unaffiliated with Kansas State, I don't know.  What I do know is that I wouldn't make my decision based on the fact that one of the candidates had a "bad" game in which he threw for 300 yards and had three scores and then vote for a guy who had two "bad" games where he threw for a combined 449 yards and 0 passing TDs in an offense predicated upon him throwing, a lot.  I can also say with fair certainty that if you were a heisman voter unattached to a school and unswayed by media coverage that if you had a guy with Klein's profile leading going into the Baylor game you wouldn't drop him for the game that he had when he had 3 or 4 worse before that one.  Also did you know that in the Alabama game he threw for less yards and the same amount of TD passes than Klein did against Baylor?

What I'm saying is stop trying to sound intellectually superior to other fans when the method of making a decision is logically flawed and just as based on emotion as the people you are railing against.

Church! 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Doing it wrong, but Texas fan on the game

« on: November 29, 2012, 12:40:36 PM »

 

 

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Kansas State Football / Re: -11

« on: November 26, 2012, 11:26:57 AM »

Looks like Case is starting (now sure how i feel about this  )

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8677061/case-mccoy-texas-longhorns-start-qb-vs-kansas-state-wildcats

Feel good, he sucks

 

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Kansas State Football / Re: -11

« on: November 26, 2012, 11:07:15 AM »

Looks like Case is starting (now sure how i feel about this  )

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8677061/case-mccoy-texas-longhorns-start-qb-vs-kansas-state-wildcats

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Kansas State Football / Re: -11

« on: November 26, 2012, 09:52:38 AM »

Do we have any update on our injuries? I know Bill never comments about it but just wondering if we got any insider information on how our cats are doing with this nice bye we had.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official Klein for Heisman (Kleinsman) Thread

« on: November 20, 2012, 10:13:31 AM »

I am feeling optimistic that if Klein has a stellar performance (4-5 touchdowns / 300-400 yards) against Texa$ on Dec 1st that could sway judges into pulling him in for a close victory over Freshman Johnny. A mizzou / USC win would help as well 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official Klein for Heisman (Kleinsman) Thread

« on: November 19, 2012, 01:53:55 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/11/19/heisman-survey-johnny-manziel-manti-teo-collin-klein/1714173/

fickle indeed...

Wondering how "Official" these people are...

"USA TODAY Sports Media Group survey of its 37 official Heisman voters"

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official Klein for Heisman (Kleinsman) Thread

« on: November 19, 2012, 01:23:36 PM »

I think he'll be fine if we beat Texas. He's white, christian, and not a freshman. Most of the tuck voters will like that.

I am thinking the same for Klein...I want him to win on his abilities but with a solid win against Texas I think the above will help him pull ahead and win..

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Kansas State Football / Re: Official Klein for Heisman (Kleinsman) Thread

« on: November 19, 2012, 11:27:23 AM »

http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman12/

Kind of surprised but the Heisman race has been weak all year.

They dont update that page till tomorrow 

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Kansas State Football / Re: WSJ joins bandwagon

« on: November 16, 2012, 01:49:12 PM »

Kansas State wears one purple uniform at home and one white uniform on the road—and that's it. "At Kansas State," Davis said, "the throwback uniform is the current uniform."

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Kansas State Football / Re: Texas

« on: November 15, 2012, 02:58:10 PM »

I am hoping with these crazy ticket prices for this game we get GameDay + emotional send off for our seniors + Heisman lock up for Klein + MNC game + rush the field!!!   

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Kansas State Football / Re: Injuries

« on: November 15, 2012, 02:53:50 PM »

Any recent update on Baby Lockett condition? Want him to drive up those all purpose yards on the bears 

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Kansas State Football / Re: The Curse!

« on: November 15, 2012, 12:29:42 PM »

Up and ordered 

http://www.sicovers.com/Product.aspx?pid=2579

Awesome! Ordered! 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Do we know or have a good idea of the Texas game time yet?

« on: November 14, 2012, 11:01:00 AM »

Have we heard more around the game time of the Texas game?

I am guessing we probably wont know for sure till next week but just trying to plan ahead since I am traveling from Oklahoma.

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Kansas State Football / Re: The Curse!

« on: November 13, 2012, 06:39:00 PM »

ez, you alright my dude, don't let em get you down

Doing well my man. I understand that repeated posts sucks..it happens.

 

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Kansas State Football / Re: The Curse!

« on: November 13, 2012, 01:20:38 PM »

I think it's funny when someone thinks they are the biggest K-State fan, and that on a board with thousands of posters, they are the first one to have seen something like this. Just hilarious.

Yeah I got a kick out of it 

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Kansas State Football / Re: The Curse!

« on: November 13, 2012, 01:19:43 PM »

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Kansas State Football / The Curse!

« on: November 13, 2012, 01:18:09 PM »

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Kansas State Football / Re: Let's talk scenarios

« on: November 10, 2012, 10:05:39 PM »

I got a scenario for you-

I already got a hotel for Dec. 1st, I suggest you make arrangements if you haven't already.  We have a huge MOAP, we all get rip roaring drunk and act like idiots, we head into the Bill and watch the KSU Cats beat Texas by oh, let's say 40, then we rush the field and act even stupider, then we drag the goal posts to Aggieville and go bananas til like 4 AM.

How's that scenario?

Got my arrangements to do something similar to this 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Let's talk scenarios

« on: November 10, 2012, 10:01:33 PM »

I made a chart to encompass all scenarios that michigancat has laid out for us in this thread:

 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Let's talk scenarios

« on: November 10, 2012, 09:52:16 PM »

Does Oregon jump to #1 tonight with K-State being #2? I think the computers will factor in enough still to hold us to #1..thoughts?

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Kansas State Football / Re: -7.5

« on: November 08, 2012, 08:46:16 AM »

I thought I saw 8.....omg is it moving?!?!?!

Yes, it was at 8 for a while.  Some dipcrap Ohio St fan on covers.com is claiming that he has insider info that Klein hasn't taken a snap all week.  I say, so what.....he did that last year, too.

Well I too have insider information that says he is playing...so...

Hope your right Put some money on that -7.5 line 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Who to Root Against (Not ND)

« on: October 30, 2012, 09:32:58 PM »

In celebration of our #2 ranking I bet a parlay of money line for Pitt, USC, and LSU to win $20 to pay $2020. Go cats! 

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Kansas State Football / Re: Texas: Huge Victory Over a Kansas State University

« on: October 29, 2012, 11:00:13 PM »

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