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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: oscar Weber facts
« on: September 20, 2012, 11:33:19 AM »

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.  Weber's a pretty good coach who got stale at Illinois.  Why go onto another board just to piss on their new hire?

You say "got stale," I say "missed NITs and was the first coach to ever get fired for performance at Illinois."  Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

#teamMrBread

Lou was let go for performance. 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: oscar Weber facts
« on: September 20, 2012, 09:09:33 AM »
Well, not only that stuff, but losing Jamar Smith (now a fringe NBA player), losing Quentin Watkins around the same time, having Demitri McCamey being just good enough (and a 3.5 year starter) to dissuade other PG prospects from coming.  Our backcourt was a mess for a while.

we have a pretty similar story here.  we lost beasley and walker after just a year apiece, which put us off track from the start.  then our top recruit, wally judge (now a one-footed jumper in new jersey) left, and we lost sutton, asprilla and russell at about the same time.  finally, we had jacob pullen sitting in the backcourt for four years, so obviously pg recruiting was a no go.  you know the rest of the story,
our coach signed three straight top 10 classes, didn't make the tourney 3 out of his last 5 years and lost something Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like 13 or 15 or whatever of his last 20 games with those recruits, so we fired him and hired your coach.  poor devil never had a chance.

Yep, snake bitten.  Faced some issues that just don't happen to every other coach every where.  Poor old oscar.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.  Weber's a pretty good coach who got stale at Illinois.  Why go onto another board just to piss on their new hire?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: oscar Weber facts
« on: September 19, 2012, 11:21:04 PM »
Jereme Richmond sticking around another year(and getting his crap together) probably would have helped oscar at Illinois.

D.J. Richardson being a decent player but not living up to his Top 50 ranking probably didn't help.

Finishing 2nd on Jon Scheyer didn't help.

Probably biggest "woe" was having Sampson and Indiana swipe Eric Gordon away. 1 and done but still a big time player who might have been able to alter the momentum of their program ala Beasley. Don't think Coach Chester likes him too much.

Well, not only that stuff, but losing Jamar Smith (now a fringe NBA player), losing Quentin Watkins around the same time, having Demitri McCamey being just good enough (and a 3.5 year starter) to dissuade other PG prospects from coming.  Our backcourt was a mess for a while.
His last team was the most talented he had recruited.  The wheels fell off right after we knocked off Ohio State. 
As to my comments re: Kansas and Texas Tech:  oscar had a great record against MSU, the class of the big 10 during his tenure.  His teams struggled more than they should have against Penn State.


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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: oscar Weber facts
« on: September 19, 2012, 12:18:17 PM »
Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: OFFICIAL WELCOME Westicles THREAD!!!
« on: September 19, 2012, 11:51:23 AM »
Westicles to want me.

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