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Read, clown, READ.  Did Frank Martin have to deal with opponents unethically stealing committed recruits?  Did he have to deal with toxic negative fans?  Did he have to deal with fat lazy unmotivated players?  Did he have to deal with a cancerous recruit like Richmond?  Or losing his best player to a broken hand?

Maybe he shouldn't recruit lazy, unmotivated, cancerous players then. But, you're right, no other coach has had to deal with an injury to one of their players. Ever.

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Unfortunately you're more likely to end up with this after he decides it's everybody else's fault:

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oscar Weber has shown he can win at the highest levels when he isn't saddled with the negativity of a delusional fan base and he doesn't have to deal with unfortunate incidents one after the other. 

In 2006, he had the verbal of Eric Gordon, he was one year removed from the championship game, and then the refs stole the Washington game, Gordon decommits due to the shady practices of Sampson, Jamar Smith becomes an alcoholic, Frazier breaks his hand, McCamey is a lazy player, and Jereme Richmond ends up a disaster. 

How many coaches could come through that and still take a team to the NCAA, beat UNLV like a drum, and hang with #1 Kansas?  Very few, if any.

Then of course, this year, Mike Thomas the AD has to throw Weber under the bus mid season which then tanked the year.  15-3 at one point, first place in the Big Ten at one point, then Thomas has to go on the radio and show no confidence in Weber, and the wheels fell off at that point.

You guys are going to be eating crow after a great season and great recruiting haul by Weber.

One problem with this. Illinois had already collapsed when Mike Thomas went on radio and said Weber would be evaluated at the end of the year. They had lost 5 of 6 (including a loss to a horrible Penn State and home loss to Northwestern) and made it 6 of 7 the next day against Michigan.

And no "hell of a good coach" goes 50-56 in the Big Ten at Illinois unless he's walking into a complete rebuilding job.  Weber was at Illinois 9 years, 3 of which were good, 1 of which was decent (the 24-10 team), while the other 5 were complete failures. When your failure rate is greater than 50% as a college coach at a good program, you're more than deserving of a pink slip.

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