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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: EVERYONE NEEDS TO WAIT TO FULLY FORMULATE OPINION ON oscar WEBER

« on: April 01, 2012, 01:46:08 PM »

Frank Martin did that in 2009-2010

Beat UNLV by 15 points and lost to KU in overtime by 2. Although KU was ranked 2 in the nation...he did beat the number one team earlier in that month. Research, clown. RESEARCH.

Read, clown, READ.  Did Frank Martin have to deal with opponents unethically stealing committed recruits?  Did he have to deal with toxic negative fans?  Did he have to deal with fat lazy unmotivated players?  Did he have to deal with a cancerous recruit like Richmond?  Or losing his best player to a broken hand? 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: EVERYONE NEEDS TO WAIT TO FULLY FORMULATE OPINION ON oscar WEBER

« on: April 01, 2012, 01:08:43 PM »

oscar Weber has shown he can win at the highest levels when he isn't saddled with the negativity of a delusional fan base and he doesn't have to deal with unfortunate incidents one after the other. 

In 2006, he had the verbal of Eric Gordon, he was one year removed from the championship game, and then the refs stole the Washington game, Gordon decommits due to the shady practices of Sampson, Jamar Smith becomes an alcoholic, Frazier breaks his hand, McCamey is a lazy player, and Jereme Richmond ends up a disaster. 

How many coaches could come through that and still take a team to the NCAA, beat UNLV like a drum, and hang with #1 Kansas?  Very few, if any.

Then of course, this year, Mike Thomas the AD has to throw Weber under the bus mid season which then tanked the year.  15-3 at one point, first place in the Big Ten at one point, then Thomas has to go on the radio and show no confidence in Weber, and the wheels fell off at that point.

You guys are going to be eating crow after a great season and great recruiting haul by Weber. 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: SUPPORT oscar WEBER

« on: April 01, 2012, 10:15:16 AM »

KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles).  This is a package deal.  KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain.  And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.

You mean the Jay Price that recruited Meyers Leonard?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: SUPPORT oscar WEBER

« on: April 01, 2012, 10:00:49 AM »

PurpleKrush is a notorious WFF (Weber First Fan) from the Illini HQ forum. Do not think the Scout Board or OrangeKrush117 are representative of Illini Nation.

Weber has good intentions, but is just bad at it. He's a whiner, not a leader. He plays the victim instead of overcoming challenges. He couldn't fill Self's shoes and I certainly can't see him filling Martin's. His recruiting was all over the map, usually a year behind the curve. JMHO, but this is possibly the worst job he could have landed. This is a similar situation to Illinois. Taking over from a popular coach that bolted. He wasn't that impressive a hire at Illinois, but most gave him more than a fair chance. He's already off on the wrong foot here and I can't picture this ending pretty.

After poisoning Illini Nation with your hate, now you feel the need to continue beating a good man in a pathetic attempt to poison the fans of Kansas State.  Before he's ever coached a game? 

Weber took Illinois to 37-2 and the national championship game.  Weber's first 3 years were the best 3 years stretch Illinois has ever had.  He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents.  The Chicago area blackballed him because he wasn't one of them - just like what happened to Kruger.  He had to deal with unethical coaches in the AAU scene there calling him a racist.  He had to deal with following up a coach that likely cheated and definitely played in the gray area.  He had to deal with the former head coach stealing recruits away from the area as he spent the last year recruiting Collins and Wright and Villanueva away to his new job.  He had to deal with fans that didn't like his voice, or his suits, or his hair.  Just horrible angry people that hated him because he wasn't a slick car salesmen that cheated.

And through all that, he took Illinois the the title game.  Deron Williams talks glowingly of him, I'll talk his word over that of a basement dwelling internet poster. 

I just wish that the haters could move on and simply wish oscar Weber well.  He's a good man, a family man, an ethical man, and he's a hell of a great coach. 

I hope he takes KSU to heights not seen. 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: SUPPORT oscar WEBER

« on: March 31, 2012, 09:04:57 PM »

oscar Weber is a good man.  He's classy, he's honest to a fault, and he's a damn fine basketball mind.  He brought Illinois to their best performance ever.  He didn't suddenly forget how to coach. 

He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents with players getting into trouble off the court, the Eric Gordon fiasco, bad luck with injury after injury, and players that simply weren't as good as advertised or were lazy and didn't want to improve. 

He was also railroaded by legions of entitled spoiled fans that surrounded him with nothing but negativity the entire time he was there. 

And this mantra that he only won with Bill Self's recruits is hogwash.  First off, Self got worse every year he was at Illinois, and secondly he showed what a great coach he truly is with the 08-09 team that finished 2nd in the Big Ten after a losing season.  That team came out of nowhere, and had they not lost their best player to injury, they were primed to make some noise in the tourney.

You people should be grateful to have the brilliant coaching, the hard work ethic, and the clean and upstanding citizen heading up your team.  I am still attached to Weber, and I think he got a raw deal here at Illinois.

I now have a 1B team to the 1A of Illinois, I look forward to following oscar and your Wildcats!