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Kansas State Football / Re: Welp
« on: November 17, 2012, 08:14:22 PM »
Serves ya right for talking crap
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Kansas State Football / Re: Predict the score of the BCS NC game
« on: October 28, 2012, 08:09:33 AM »
Oregon - 26
Bama - 19
Bama - 19
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Kansas State Football / Re: Boise State thinks this Big East move is bullshit
« on: October 05, 2012, 06:09:46 AM »How does one not see a steer in the road?
Obviously the driver can't steer for crap.
Or can't steer to avoid crap.
You don't swerve to avoid animals while driving a semi.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Game thread
« on: September 01, 2012, 07:47:00 PM »
Whats going on KSU?!?!
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Kansas State Football / Re: Sick of hearing 8 wins would be a good season
« on: August 14, 2012, 09:51:15 AM »
It doesn't have anything with you guys wanting to be good, I hope you guys do great. It'll be good for the conference, but I don't see you guys being as fortunate in that many close games as you were last year.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Sick of hearing 8 wins would be a good season
« on: August 14, 2012, 08:15:50 AM »
Looks like there's going to be some upset kitty fans this year
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 03, 2012, 11:22:52 AM »Are you going to hang around with us here? I hope so. You like us, I think. We're welcoming to others, too.MARYLAND? what kind of a rube cheers for a team in a different state. LOL, real classic, SailorCowboy
Moron, I'm in the military. I'm stationed here.
Did you see that .gif I posted pretending it was Bullet the Horse?
I'll stick around when I'm not deployed. Yeah, I saw the pic, it was pretty good.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 03, 2012, 11:07:34 AM »MARYLAND? what kind of a rube cheers for a team in a different state. LOL, real classic, SailorCowboy
Moron, I'm in the military. I'm stationed here.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 03, 2012, 10:26:35 AM »SailorCowboy, did you see the picture that KFOR had yesterday showing a couple of street lights melting in Stillwater?
oh my. hope you drink you're water, it's hot down here. go pokes
Yeah I saw that. Crazy stuff. It's hot up here in Maryland, but nothing like whats going on back home. Feel sorry for those guys.
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Kansas State Football / Re: Upstanding Bowlologist Jerry Palm causes people to place faces on his last name.
« on: August 03, 2012, 06:10:24 AM »
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Kansas State Football / Re: Predict where our KSU Cats are in tomorrow's Coaches Poll!
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 01, 2012, 09:11:12 AM »OSU won some close games that could have gone either way as well. A&M? Stanford? K-State?
We won a few more games in crunch time than you did, that's all.
A little different:
OSU's close games: A&M #8, Stanford #4, K-State #14 (All three ranked top 15 when we played them)
KSU's close games: Eastern Kentucky, Miami, Baylor #15, Missouri, Texas Tech, A&M, Texas #23, Iowa State
Doesn't really mean much to me what they were ranked, they were the same team. We played a much higher ranked Oklahoma, I believe. A&M is a wash. Texas, Tech, and Miami are all tough road wins, so I'm not too upset about playing them close even if OSU did blow (or would have blown) them out of the water. Eastern Kentucky we played like crap, but that was the first game of the season and we had a lot of new parts, it shouldn't have been that close. Missouri the same thing to some extent, and OSU lost to Iowa St so I don't really care how we won that game. So yeah, we played a couple of close games against teams we should have beat, but at least we won them all. OSU lost one of those games.
OSU was a better team, they proved that throughout the season. The close games argument is pretty silly in my opinion, we beat all the teams we were supposed to a maybe a few we weren't supposed to. When the two teams faced off, we played down to the final play. Top 2 in the Big 12 last year.
Don't get it wrong. I'm not saying you guys had a bad team. Hell, you gave us all we could handle in our OWN house. However, A&M was ranked #8 in the nation with a lot of preseason hype and we beat them at Kyle Field. They were already beaten up at 5-4 and unranked when you got them in Manhatten.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 01, 2012, 07:13:24 AM »KSU's defense didn't lead KSU to a 10-3 record and the Cotton Bowl last year either.
Well it wasn't your 101st ranked offense. I think it was being fortunate in 7-8 games last year that led to that 10-3 record. Last season could've easily been a 3-4 win season for KSU.
21st in points per play, quit relying on tempo based stats that skew towards teams that pass the ball more and run no huddle. Dumbass.
That's the point I was trying to make when they keep saying that OSU had the 107th ranked defense. It is not a true measure for all teams.
I know why you guys went 10-3. Special teams and Klein. He's a fricken man beast. You know where and when it's coming and you still can't stop it.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 01, 2012, 07:10:27 AM »OSU won some close games that could have gone either way as well. A&M? Stanford? K-State?
We won a few more games in crunch time than you did, that's all.
A little different:
OSU's close games: A&M #8, Stanford #4, K-State #14 (All three ranked top 15 when we played them)
KSU's close games: Eastern Kentucky, Miami, Baylor #15, Missouri, Texas Tech, A&M, Texas #23, Iowa State
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: August 01, 2012, 07:06:09 AM »No, OSU's offense led to a Big12 Champ and BCS win. OSU's defense survived.
OSU Pass Def Eff - #20 (115 YPG)
KSU Pass Def Eff - #76 (131 YPG)
OSU Run Def - #90 (184 YPG)
KSU Run Def - #37 (131 YPG)
OSU Tackle for Loss - #24
KSU Tackle for Loss - #92
OSU Def Sacks - #36
KSU Def Sacks - #84
OSU RZ Def - #12
KSU RZ Def - #77
I would say we "survived" pretty well.
Compairing OSU's defense to KSU defense doesn't make your point. KSU's defense didn't lead KSU to a 10-3 record and the Cotton Bowl last year either. You said OSU's defense lead them to their record/bowl. That's not true. The offense clearly lead the way for the team. OSU's defense is middle of the pack. Middle of the pack defense's don't lead you to a 12-1 record.
It was a bad choice of words. What I meant was, the defense was "good enough" to win them a BCS bowl. I wasn't insinuating that the defense won our games last year, it was definitely our offense. However, our defense wasn't as bad as everyone thinks it was. They keep looking at the 107th ranked Total Defense stats and say "OMG, they suck". What they don't take into account was the number of plays our defense was on the field. It's not like our 1st team defense was playing four quarters and couldn't get the opposing offenses off the field. We built up early leads this year and often and emptied the bench to get our backups some playing time.
1. Against ULaLa we played 2's/3's after going up 44-10 in the 3rd Qtr and the backups surrendered 24pts.
2. Against Arizona the starting defense only allowed 7pts through 3 Qtrs.
3. Tulsa game didn't kickoff until 12:15am and didn't end until 3:30am because of a rain delay. Pokes up 45-6 in the 3rd Qtr. We knew Tulsa wanted to throw the ball so they sold out to stop the pass and force them to run. OSU's 1st team defense forced 4 fumbles before halftime. Of the 365 rushing yards by Tulsa, only 108 were on the 1st team D.
4. Against A&M, Tannehill was their leading rusher. 7 carries for 69yds and a TD (65yds and the TD were on one busted play). We were down 20-3 at the half, needless to say, the backup DE's got in the game on 3rd down.
5. Our 2's were on the field in the 2nd Qtr after we were up 42-7 against your in state rival Jayhawks. Our 3's and walkon's played after halftime and gave up 21pts enroute to a 70-28 win.
6. Weeden struggled in the 1st half against UT. Similar to the A&M game, DE's/DT's were rotated often because UT was running between the tackles every play. Some backups got rotated in but this 26pts given up fell soley on starters.
7. Against Mizz, Bill Young wanted them to force Franklin into throwing the ball (""They gave us what we had been working on all week," defensive end Jamie Blatnick said. "When we see what we've prepared for it works out for us.". Along with his 184yds passing he also accumulated 3 interceptions and lost a fumble.
8. Up 49-3 in the 3rd Qtr against Baylor we emptied the bench. 1st team defense held RG3 to 152yds passing, 2 interceptions, and 0 points in 1st half. Backups giveup 273yds passing and 24 points in the 2nd half.
9. Klein went beast mode. Nothing much to say about this. We were fortunate he didn't connect on those last 3 passes inside the 5. Because I KNOW, Snyder would've gone for the 2 on a QB keeper up the gut and would've scored.
10. Up 49-0 early in the 3rd, same as KU and emptied the bench. 2's/3's/walkons still held TT's offense to 0 points.
11. ISU game was well......
12. During Bedlam, Gundy substituted in the Seniors early in the 3rd after jumping out to a 44-3 lead. Gave up 172 passing yards to Jones in 3 Qtrs while forcing 2 fumbles, recording 3 sacks and 1 interception.
As you can see our defense was actually quite good, when they played. If you take out the garbage time yardage and points http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/feiyou would be quite suprised on how well our defense actually performed. And to bring back as many starters we are, you can see why we are excited about our defense this year.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:59:54 AM »KSU's defense didn't lead KSU to a 10-3 record and the Cotton Bowl last year either.
Well it wasn't your 101st ranked offense. I think it was being fortunate in 7-8 games last year that led to that 10-3 record. Last season could've easily been a 3-4 win season for KSU.
It was special teams, offensive efficiency, and clock management.
You guys had a pretty good special teams too. Clock management is where its at though. If you can drive and hold the ball it keeps those Big12 quick strike offenses on the chalk.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:54:31 AM »KSU's defense didn't lead KSU to a 10-3 record and the Cotton Bowl last year either.
Well it wasn't your 101st ranked offense. I think it was being fortunate in 7-8 games last year that led to that 10-3 record. Last season could've easily been a 3-4 win season for KSU.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:30:25 AM »No, OSU's offense led to a Big12 Champ and BCS win. OSU's defense survived.
OSU Pass Def Eff - #20 (115 YPG)
KSU Pass Def Eff - #76 (131 YPG)
OSU Run Def - #90 (184 YPG)
KSU Run Def - #37 (131 YPG)
OSU Tackle for Loss - #24
KSU Tackle for Loss - #92
OSU Def Sacks - #36
KSU Def Sacks - #84
OSU RZ Def - #12
KSU RZ Def - #77
I would say we "survived" pretty well.
I don't think you will find anybody who will tell you that K-State was better than OSU last year. You will find plenty of tards that think OSU had a bad defense, but those people aren't any dumber than OSU fans who think they won't miss a beat offensively this season. OSU is going to be very tough, mainly because they are returning a great defense, but they will not be nearly as good as they were last season.
I don't know of too many Cowboy fans (other than a few homers) that think we won't miss a beat on offense. In fact most true fans are thinking 8 wins and 9 with bowl. This is if Wes plays well. If not......well.....it's going to be a bad year for the Cowboys. Gundy keeps saying that our offense won't change, but I think it will to a point. Last year our pass set up our run. This year, I think the running game will set up our passing game.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:14:31 AM »No, OSU's offense led to a Big12 Champ and BCS win. OSU's defense survived.
OSU Pass Def Eff - #20 (115 YPG)
KSU Pass Def Eff - #76 (131 YPG)
OSU Run Def - #90 (184 YPG)
KSU Run Def - #37 (131 YPG)
OSU Tackle for Loss - #24
KSU Tackle for Loss - #92
OSU Def Sacks - #36
KSU Def Sacks - #84
OSU RZ Def - #12
KSU RZ Def - #77
I would say we "survived" pretty well.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 10:37:16 AM »OSU's defense also got way more snaps than most teams. when you play pussy bend but don't break defense you can get more to's.
Name Plays Yds Avg TDs Ydspgm
UT 865 3979 4.60 32 306.08
OU 950 4890 5.15 35 376.15
OSU 1089 5938 5.45 44 456.77
KSU 907 5130 5.66 45 394.62
ISU 979 5557 5.68 43 427.46
BU 992 6350 6.40 64 488.46
TT 904 5827 6.45 62 485.58
KU 866 6197 7.16 68 516.42
That's a lot of plays to defend to still allow less yardage per play and few TD's than KSU. That pussy bend but don't break defense led to a Big 12 Championship and BCS win didn't it.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 09:55:46 AM »well your piper tiger team is going to be shredded son so just line that new qb under center (where he likes to have his hands LMAO) and get ready to take it like you're used to taking it. osu = paper tiger.
That's a lot of big talk for a man that has a kitten and a puppy in his signature and as his avatar
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 09:47:11 AM »I do strongly believe that OSU is the third best team in the Big 12 this season behind only OU and Texas, but I think we have a very good chance of beating them at home. OSU is going to force a ton of turnovers and rely on that, but it is going to be very difficult to force turnovers against K-State, a team that rarely throws the football. OSU is going to have to get a big early lead if they are going to win.
We don't just rely on interceptions. We are pretty good at forcing fumbles too.
2011: Fumbles (20); Interceptions (24)
K-State shortens the game by consistently running the football and running the clock between plays. The game will not have as many plays run as a typical game, therefore less opportunity for turnovers.
I agree. That's why we're actually feeling better about this years matchup than last years. We had Weeden/Blackmon last year, but we knew you guys would control the clock and keep them on the sideline. This year our defense should be able to get you guys off the field quicker and get the ball back in the hands of our offense.
Your offense has much less ability to get a big lead early and force K-State to abandon the run, though.
I wouldn't agree with this. We have a lot of playmakers. Yes, most of them you haven't heard of before, but you will. It's hard (damn near impossible) to replace a Weeden. Lunt will make mistakes as a freshman, I'm not saying he won't. But, he ran this offense in high school (yes, the game is quicker in NCAA) and the veterans on the team are suprised by him. Not only his talent, but his maturity and demeanor. The game against UT early in the season will tell us our seasons story. If we get past UT's defense......I don't see anyone stopping us in the Big12.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 09:42:09 AM »I do strongly believe that OSU is the third best team in the Big 12 this season behind only OU and Texas, but I think we have a very good chance of beating them at home. OSU is going to force a ton of turnovers and rely on that, but it is going to be very difficult to force turnovers against K-State, a team that rarely throws the football. OSU is going to have to get a big early lead if they are going to win.
We don't just rely on interceptions. We are pretty good at forcing fumbles too.
2011: Fumbles (20); Interceptions (24)
K-State shortens the game by consistently running the football and running the clock between plays. The game will not have as many plays run as a typical game, therefore less opportunity for turnovers.
I agree. That's why we're actually feeling better about this years matchup than last years. We had Weeden/Blackmon last year, but we knew you guys would control the clock and keep them on the sideline. This year our defense should be able to get you guys off the field quicker and get the ball back in the hands of our offense.
SHOULD
Yes, I wrote should
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 09:39:31 AM »I do strongly believe that OSU is the third best team in the Big 12 this season behind only OU and Texas, but I think we have a very good chance of beating them at home. OSU is going to force a ton of turnovers and rely on that, but it is going to be very difficult to force turnovers against K-State, a team that rarely throws the football. OSU is going to have to get a big early lead if they are going to win.
We don't just rely on interceptions. We are pretty good at forcing fumbles too.
2011: Fumbles (20); Interceptions (24)
K-State shortens the game by consistently running the football and running the clock between plays. The game will not have as many plays run as a typical game, therefore less opportunity for turnovers.
I agree. That's why we're actually feeling better about this years matchup than last years. We had Weeden/Blackmon last year, but we knew you guys would control the clock and keep them on the sideline. This year our defense should be able to get you guys off the field quicker and get the ball back in the hands of our offense.
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Kansas State Football / Re: How Many Games Will We Win This Season??
« on: July 31, 2012, 09:33:13 AM »I do strongly believe that OSU is the third best team in the Big 12 this season behind only OU and Texas, but I think we have a very good chance of beating them at home. OSU is going to force a ton of turnovers and rely on that, but it is going to be very difficult to force turnovers against K-State, a team that rarely throws the football. OSU is going to have to get a big early lead if they are going to win.
We don't just rely on interceptions. We are pretty good at forcing fumbles too.
2011: Fumbles (20); Interceptions (24)
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