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seems like you put a lot of time into making something that nobody gives a cac about   :ck:
Seems like you put a bit of time into making something that proves you're a douche.

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my other quibble with your analysis would be that a turnover is far worse than an assist is good.

how so?  isn't an assist worth more than two points and a turnover worth less than two?

Turnovers come from not using your head and making poor decisions (which plagued the Cats all season long).  I am more forgiving (but not much more) of Jake's turnovers b/c most of them cam from being aggresive.  Everyone else on the team had more turnovers from dumb passes or telegraphing passes.  Assists also take 2 people to complete whereas a turnover is normally a product of 1's effort (or lack thereof).

It's an empirical fact that on a purely statistical basis, Assists are worth more than TOs cost. I just simplified the analysis to simple percentages to make it easier for non-stat geeks to understand. The actual in-depth statistical analysis gives Southwell even more of an edge. And, if you're "more forgiving of Jake's turnovers" because they resulted from aggression, how can you not give Shane the same treatment? Either way, though, that's nothing more than a "gut feel" thing, and doesn't mean much at all in relation to reality.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 04:26:53 PM »
It absolutely blows my mind how much stupid emanates from some of you people. The drivel that continues to slowly drool out of your brains is mindbendingly idiotic.

Note: That is not to everyone on here.

My I write on your "Note to self" pad? Okay, thanks

(Writing quickly.)
I'm too good for these guys--don't visit goEMAW.com anymore.

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ft% is the best argument for optimism re. his shot.  i don't know if the fact that he throws every pass that he sees, half for assists, half for turnovers is a reason of optimism or pessimism.

It's easier to teach a risk taker to be more conservative that to teach a conservative to be more reckless.  IMO.

Also, a 1.1 A/TO ratio is indicative of someone who is making the right decision on his passes about 53% of the time, and the wrong decision about 47% of the time. Given that some TOs come from guys not being ready for a great pass, travels, etc., the good percentage is probably higher than that, but still, I can live with a freshman distributor making good passing decisions 53% of the time, which Will and Shane both did. Especially given the fact that Martavious was only making good decisions (by that scale) about 42% of the time.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 02:54:02 PM »
This is absolutely perfect. The Naismiths do NOT look good in that article. And the Wills look like perfectly reasonable people, with actual evidence that their ancestor at the very LEAST had SOMETHING to do with the invention of the game.


What game?  Thought we were talking about schools.  Help?

Are you drunk?

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jesus man. recruiting rankings are a pretty solid indicator of how good player is/will become.

Well, there's no debating THAT airtight logic. IOW, do I really need to make you a list of McDs AAs that have fallen on their faces, and 2*s that have become beasts?!?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 02:47:55 PM »
This is absolutely perfect. The Naismiths do NOT look good in that article. And the Wills look like perfectly reasonable people, with actual evidence that their ancestor at the very LEAST had SOMETHING to do with the invention of the game.

I don't really give a eff who invented the game, but who sounds more reasonable here:

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Before long he’s screaming, out of breath.

“I’m ready to kick some ass,” he said. “I will hurt somebody. Whoever says it can face me, and I’m 260 pounds.”

But to Ian Naismith, this is more than a theory. These are fighting words.

“This is the first family of basketball,” he said. “Don’t call my grandfather a liar.”

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“I’m sure — more than sure — that my grandfather had a lot to do with the history of basketball,” he said. “He (Naismith) invented the idea. He just didn’t invent the whole game. There’s plenty of room for skepticism.”

Who knows what’s really true and what’s not?” Lawrence said. “A lot of the history that kids read in books, let’s face it, it’s just not true. It gets changed. It gets lost. It gets reinvented and claimed.

“We all wish we knew the exact thing. I just wish my grandfather got a little more credit than he did. Who deserves more credit? Who did what? Who will ever know?”

Naismith sounds like $2MM trust fund baby that prolly claims to have played AAU ball somewhere or something Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) like that.  Perfect butt hurt KU fan.




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he's an asset on offense.

totally disagree. when teams are begging him to shoot an unguarded 15 foot jumper, and he still doesn't shoot it, tells you about all you need to know about him as a liability on offense.

also, the talking point about shane being some sort of great passer is entirely over rated. martavious had a better a/to ratio.


He's only a freshman.  The Morris twins couldn't hit the broad side of a barn their freshman year, and now they're two of the best big men in the country.  Give Southwell some time to get comfortable and work on his jumpshot.

Whenever Southwell gets a RSCI in the top 70 then the comparison would be worthwhile.

WTF?!? What do recruiting rankings have to do with a kid's actual potential after having a decent freshman year?!?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:56:47 PM »
I don't have much respect for any KU fan who actually claims the '22 and '23 "titles." You guys have 3 that you actually WON. No need to claim to have two extra ones that some dude proclaimed 20 years after the fact.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:47:46 PM »
In this case, America can suck it.

Why exactly do you guys root against us so strongly? Sure, I don't like some of your fans. But I was still pulling for you guys against Wisconsin last Saturday.

Just curious.

This is the most honest I will ever be. I effing hate KU. Every single fan, every single player. I have KU alum in my family: I hate them.

I didn't care about KU at all until I came to K-State. After my first football game against KU, the seeds of hate were planted by KU fans. Then came basketball, the tree began to grow. Less than a year into my college education, murder came to mind every time I saw the colors blue and red together.

But I did root for KU to beat Nebraska in football once...

I can respect all of that. I don't have a problem with the fact that you hate us. I was just curious WHY. Thank you.

My personal hate (and I mean when I started to consider homicide strongly) probably goes back to our loss to KU in manhattan in...2007 I think, football. After being assured that "there is no rivalry" from every snooty ass KU fan in the state, the fans decided to mock and deride us in our own town for the entire day. I had GIRLS screaming RCJH in my effing face in the parking lot as I was leaving the staduim after. I was yelled at and mocked by groups of KU (what I assume were frat dudes, but you really can't tell with KU fans...they take douche to a whole new level) fans my entire walk home. Seriously like 2 miles and I was yelled at by at least 7 different groups of people....and I was just walking! THEN, when we beat KU they're even worse!


All the while claiming they don't care about us. Sure.
This x 1 with a lot of 0s behind it.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Next season's potential
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:54:00 PM »
As far as predictions go, I'm going with 22-10 (11-7) as my realistic regular season prediction, with 25-7 (13-5) as the upside, and 19-13 (9-9) as the downside. I think Rodney ups production to 12 and 8, with Jamar at around the same levels, and Jordan averaging maybe 8 and 6. I also think Will steps up his game next year, and puts up maybe around 10 points and 3 or 4 assists per game. I see Shane as a point forward-type, helping set the offense, and averaging maybe 7 or 8 points, 4 boards, and maybe 4 assists or so.

FWIW--I see you guys winning 9 or 10 in the Big XII. I see you guys snagging wins against the lower echelon but in all honesty I don't see the Cats being able to beat or compete with Kansas or Texas or maybe even Mizzery. The loss of Clemente hurt a whole lot more than a lot of Kansas St. fans thought (not that I'm accusing you guys of this). I also think that the loss of Pullen is being underestimated just slightly. I know everyone realizes he was a HUGE part of your success. But he WAS the team. I just can't see Samuels and McGruder carrying the team. I hope I'm wrong.

This team will miss Jake a LOT, particularly early. But, with more balance, I think we'll be just as tough next year, but in a different way. We'll have 4 or 5 guys averaging right around double figures, I think, and some good firepower off the bench. That will make it difficult for teams to just try to take away one guy. If I were weighting the 3 scenarios I presented, I'd probably put the "realistic" one at about 60%, the downside one at 25%, and the upside one 1t 15%. I'm optimistic (but not overly so) that our young guys will step up and take the mantle from Jake. While we won't see the likes of him here for awhile, as a TEAM I think the guys can take up the numbers slack.

Your 'reality' assessment is very possible and very valid. If I were assigning percentages to those same three scenarios. I'd say realistic-40%, downside-45% upside-15%. We aren't THAT far apart. Next year will be an adventure. That is for sure.

Of course, for 2012-13, I'm going with a prediction of 28-4 (15-3), with the Cats ending the Hawks run, so I'm guessing we're a ways apart on THAT one!

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Next season's potential
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:45:18 PM »
As far as predictions go, I'm going with 22-10 (11-7) as my realistic regular season prediction, with 25-7 (13-5) as the upside, and 19-13 (9-9) as the downside. I think Rodney ups production to 12 and 8, with Jamar at around the same levels, and Jordan averaging maybe 8 and 6. I also think Will steps up his game next year, and puts up maybe around 10 points and 3 or 4 assists per game. I see Shane as a point forward-type, helping set the offense, and averaging maybe 7 or 8 points, 4 boards, and maybe 4 assists or so.

FWIW--I see you guys winning 9 or 10 in the Big XII. I see you guys snagging wins against the lower echelon but in all honesty I don't see the Cats being able to beat or compete with Kansas or Texas or maybe even Mizzery. The loss of Clemente hurt a whole lot more than a lot of Kansas St. fans thought (not that I'm accusing you guys of this). I also think that the loss of Pullen is being underestimated just slightly. I know everyone realizes he was a HUGE part of your success. But he WAS the team. I just can't see Samuels and McGruder carrying the team. I hope I'm wrong.

This team will miss Jake a LOT, particularly early. But, with more balance, I think we'll be just as tough next year, but in a different way. We'll have 4 or 5 guys averaging right around double figures, I think, and some good firepower off the bench. That will make it difficult for teams to just try to take away one guy. If I were weighting the 3 scenarios I presented, I'd probably put the "realistic" one at about 60%, the downside one at 25%, and the upside one 1t 15%. I'm optimistic (but not overly so) that our young guys will step up and take the mantle from Jake. While we won't see the likes of him here for awhile, as a TEAM I think the guys can take up the numbers slack.

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1.1 a/to ratio is awful.  Please don't use that as a talking point to hype up your boy.  I don't give a crap if it's 2nd or 3rd best on the team.  Not like it's head and shoulders above Tay's .7 ratio.  

As far as Tay pissing down his leg...he is one of 2 players to actually show up against Duke this year.

Umm... no. A 1.1 A/TO ratio is NOT "awful" on this team. It was second on the team (with Will) in-conference (which is the only time when Shane really got legit playing time). In fact, for a freshman, it's not "awful" at all. As for how Irving played against Dook, who cares? When the games got REAL (in conference), he looked and played scared.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: WTF
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:28:19 PM »
I guess I hate America then.
Yep.

[Now where did I put that al Qaeda recruiting lettter?]

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Next season's potential
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:23:39 PM »
As far as predictions go, I'm going with 22-10 (11-7) as my realistic regular season prediction, with 25-7 (13-5) as the upside, and 19-13 (9-9) as the downside. I think Rodney ups production to 12 and 8, with Jamar at around the same levels, and Jordan averaging maybe 8 and 6. I also think Will steps up his game next year, and puts up maybe around 10 points and 3 or 4 assists per game. I see Shane as a point forward-type, helping set the offense, and averaging maybe 7 or 8 points, 4 boards, and maybe 4 assists or so.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Next season's potential
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:14:23 PM »
I was talking to a KU fan the other day who said he can't stand the Morris twins because they are a couple of thugs and KU should be better than that.
:lol:


It's not an uncommon sentiment. Several of my own KU friends just tolerate those two.

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he's an asset on offense.

totally disagree. when teams are begging him to shoot an unguarded 15 foot jumper, and he still doesn't shoot it, tells you about all you need to know about him as a liability on offense.

also, the talking point about shane being some sort of great passer is entirely over rated. martavious had a better a/to ratio.

Shane>>>>>Martavious.

It's not even close. In the games that mattered (conference) Martavious pissed down his leg, with a 0.7 A/TO. Shane was second-best on the team (tied with Will) at 1.1 A/TO. Please don't ever compare a player with real upside (which Shane has) to Martavious. Irving is going to end up being little more than a high-energy guy off the bench.

Was Shane required to be a big scorer this year? No. But his offensive game is about setting other people up. Anyone with a basketball IQ of >0 could see that. And defensively, he was a huge asset, whenever Frank gave him the minutes to be one. Have we so quickly forgotten what he did to Jordan Hamilton?

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No clue on Nino Williams right now. I like that he's long and lean, and that he'll be 20 years old before his RS-FR season begins. I also like that he played big in his biggest games in high school, but there's no way to tell how that translates without seeing more from him at this level.

As for Shane, after a jittery start, he played great in some big games in conference, until Frank started yanking around his playing time for having a couple of bad practices. Even still, he managed to tie Jake for second (behind Will) in conference A/TO ratio. That's not something that happens by accident--especially when your coach is teaching you "lessons" a lot by yanking your playing time around. He wasn't a great scorer, but that seemed to come more from a "know your role" kind of thing, than from any inherent fear the kid had of taking shots. He also had the 3rd most blocks, and the 3rd most steals in conference as well. Kid can play.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Favorite Wildcat athletes...
« on: March 23, 2011, 11:42:18 AM »
TOP 5
1. Jacob Pullen
2. Steve Henson
3. Michael Bishop
4. Mitch Richmond
5. Denis Clemente

PLAYERS WITH A SHOT OF BEING IN MY TOP 5 BEFORE THEY FINISH:
Will Spradling; Rodney McGruder

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